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YOUR BALANCE
I heard on the broadcast Saturday of the game:
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I heard on the broadcast Saturday of the game:


Jan 8, 2018, 1:04 PM

"You don't want to send these guys [meaning us] to the free throw line if you are behind - because you won't gain any ground unless you hit a 3" . . . .


The Eagles got back together & now this ? ? ?


Hope ol' BeezyBub has a puffy jacket down there to keep him warm.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


I've heard so many people comment about this which makes


Jan 8, 2018, 1:15 PM

me wonder how many have really been following our program at all. We've been over 72% from the line 4 of the last 5 years. The only exception was 4 seasons ago at 68%. Brownell has taken some shaky FT shooters and made them much better. Now he's gotten a couple the last couple of years that were good from the start, but this really hasn't been a huge overall problem. Yes, we missed some critical ones last year I'm sure in the close games but in-bounding the basketball and TOs in critical situations has been the nemesis of BBs teams more so than FT shooting.

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Announcer said he asked BB why, he said they've been


Jan 8, 2018, 1:20 PM

recruiting better FT shooters.

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I've been following our basketball since 1970 or so . . .


Jan 8, 2018, 1:21 PM [ in reply to I've heard so many people comment about this which makes ]

and along the way there have been a couple of 2 to 4 year stretches of reasonable FT shooting . . . and I realized we are in such a stretch right now (that hopefully lasts for the next 40 years) . . .

But to hear an ACC broadcast say that with such certainty . . . I'm pretty sure I have never heard anything said that is even remotely similar to that.


My observation was about the statement - not about the validity of the statement.



Irregardless . . . it landblasted my head.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


I still have PTSD from the Purnell era free throw shooting


Jan 8, 2018, 3:50 PM

Turrible, just terrible.

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We had some horrendous free throw shooting under Purnell.


Jan 8, 2018, 5:06 PM

2003-2004: .631 (305th nationally)
2004-2005: .601 (324th nationally)
2005-2006: .617 (324th nationally)
2006-2007: .578 (335th nationally)
2007-2008: .623 (322nd nationally)
2008-2009: .688 (178th nationally)
2009-2010: .661 (267th nationally)

Purnell's best Clemson team finished 178th nationally. The second best was 267th, and the other five years we were below 300.

Free throw shooting has improved considerably under Brownell:
2010-2011: .701 (137th nationally)
2011-2012: .670 (247th nationally)
2012-2013: .654 (290th nationally)
2013-2014: .744 (30th nationally)
2014-2015: .682 (220th nationally)
2015-2016: .723 (82nd nationally)
2016-2017: .731 (86th nationally)
2017-2018: .756 (36th nationally)

Our worst year under Brownell was 290th. Four of Brownell's teams have finished in the top 100 in free throw percentage. This year is shaping up to be our best.

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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Dat’s some funny stuff right there !!!!***


Jan 9, 2018, 6:55 AM [ in reply to I still have PTSD from the Purnell era free throw shooting ]



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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Re: I've heard so many people comment about this which makes


Jan 9, 2018, 12:03 AM [ in reply to I've heard so many people comment about this which makes ]

I believe the sentiment of us not being a good free throw shooting team is that we haven't had a good team that also shot free throws well. It is not that us fans haven't been paying attention. I know we have been better over the past few years than we have been traditionally, as it is noted in this thread. However, our best teams have never shot free throws well, not in my lifetime. I can't remember any of Elliss', Barnes', Shyatt's, or Purnell's teams being able to constantly put games away (protect our lead) at the line and I was too young to know what was going on when Foster was out coach. No matter how good our teams where I always feared the final 3 - 5 minutes of any competitive game.

Having said that; this is the first year that we have hit a higher percentage than 3 out of 4 and it isn't just situation of who is on the line. For the most part all of our guys are knocking them down.

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Our overall FT percentage last year was okay, but we weren’t


Jan 9, 2018, 12:28 AM [ in reply to I've heard so many people comment about this which makes ]

“clutch” when we needed to be.

We would shoot FTs well early and then freeze up at the line when it counted.

Our best player Blossomgame became a liability at the FT line late in games last year.

Gabe Defoe who is great this year was about 60% Last year.

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Re: I heard on the broadcast Saturday of the game:


Jan 8, 2018, 1:24 PM



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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


^ ^ ^ ^ ^ EXACTLY***


Jan 8, 2018, 3:09 PM



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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


starters' FT stats are great


Jan 8, 2018, 2:09 PM

Marcquise Reed .843
Donte Grantham .795
Shelton Mitchell .823
Gabe DeVoe .800
Elijah Thomas .667 and he was 4-5 against BC and 2-2 vs NCSU (only player on the team not to attempt a 3 this season - which is a good thing :) )

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Tarheel, what is the teams FT %? Do you know? TIA***


Jan 8, 2018, 3:13 PM

Nm

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.756


Jan 8, 2018, 5:13 PM

of the guys that play, Simms and Skara are not shooting very well.. Skara is 1 of 6

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I still like the term “foul shots” better then “free throws”


Jan 8, 2018, 5:42 PM

For reasons already documented

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I still like the term “foul shots” better then “free throws”


Jan 8, 2018, 5:42 PM

For reasons already documented

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i heard that too, i had a good laugh***


Jan 9, 2018, 12:08 AM



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