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How Much Did Tommy Bowden's Firing Set Us Back?
Feb 5, 2015, 1:35 PM
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Do you remember the first part of the 2008 football season? We had a verbal commitment from superstar safety Craig Loston from Louisiana. I believe DeVonte Hollomon had either verbaled or put Clemson atop his list of favorites. With Hollomon leaning towards the Tigers, Stephon Gilmore was favoring us as well.
Of course, Tommy Bowden was deservingly fired mid-season, causing the recruiting class to disintegrate before our eyes. Thus, the 2009 class only had a dozen recruits, while Hollomon and Gilmore joined South Carolina's 12th ranked 29-man class. Clemson's small class was equivalent to an NCAA-mandated reduction in scholarships. Notice how Miami and The Real USC went from the mountaintop to the valley after such penalties.
Perhaps the size of and defections from the 2009 class contributed to South Carolina's rise and dominance over Clemson during the following several years. Also, if Hollomon and Gilmore had committed to Clemson in 2009, Jadeveon Clowney might have become a Tiger as well because of the Rock Hill connection. Recall that Clowney took a couple weeks after signing day to commit to South Carolina because his visit(s) to Clemson had fared so well.
Without Hollomon, Gilmore, and Clowney, would South Carolina's domination of Clemson have ever occurred? Maybe. Maybe not. Remember that Coach Dabo had to learn on the job and correct his blunders like Billy Napier and Kevin Steele.
Oh well. The past is the past and Clemson appears to have recovered completely from the detrimental effects of 2008 to 2009.
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Orange Blooded [3820]
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It don't make a d@mn.. What they say now???***
Feb 5, 2015, 1:36 PM
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Heisman Winner [111611]
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Re: How Much Did Tommy Bowden's Firing Set Us Back?
Feb 5, 2015, 1:36 PM
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not much at all, Tommy brought in one top 5 class in his 10 years, this the year before he was fired.( CDS was our recruiting coordinator) Our recruiting has taken of since then.
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Oculus Spirit [75719]
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Bowden does need credit for getting Clemson to be a
Feb 5, 2015, 1:38 PM
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place people would want to come. Think back to the 99-02 type teams in particular. How many of the guys we were ecstatic to have would have been big impact guys on top 10 teams?
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Heisman Winner [111611]
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Re: Bowden does need credit for getting Clemson to be a
Feb 5, 2015, 1:42 PM
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he did a great job here, just making the point that recruiting is night and day better now. I remember feeling giddy if we landed more the 3 4 stars in a class.
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Orange Blooded [3820]
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Exactly, back then looking at the recruiting sheet was kind
Feb 5, 2015, 1:45 PM
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of like a picture with some stars in it.. Now when you look at it, you see more stars than you would at a joint chiefs of staff meeting.
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Heisman Winner [111611]
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Re: Exactly, back then looking at the recruiting sheet was kind
Feb 5, 2015, 1:48 PM
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facility improvements really helped, TB used to say he was embarrassed to show the old locker rooms when he was hosting officials.
This staff said most of the guys we signed were #1 on their board. The new recruiting pitch is, "you are the guy we want", and it is working well.
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Oculus Spirit [75719]
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Not nearly as much as it moved is forward.***
Feb 5, 2015, 1:36 PM
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110%er [7207]
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$3.5 Million***
Feb 5, 2015, 1:41 PM
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Legend [17786]
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Yep***
Feb 5, 2015, 1:47 PM
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Enthusiast [106]
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He brought in Dabo and left the program in better shape but
Feb 5, 2015, 2:02 PM
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it was time for him to move on.
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1 step back 2 steps forward***
Feb 5, 2015, 2:03 PM
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Hall of Famer [21869]
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Holloman and Gilmore had both verbally committed then
Feb 5, 2015, 2:22 PM
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decommitted.
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