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Joe Biden [republicians] "are the dregs of society"
Sep 19, 2018, 10:50 AM
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Apparently 'deplorables' was too good for the left.
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Re: Joe Biden [republicians] "are the dregs of society"
Sep 19, 2018, 10:51 AM
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he was pretty specific when he said trump supporters, and not [republicans]
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I doubt he said that...the brackets seem pretty convenient.
Sep 19, 2018, 10:54 AM
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Anyone have a transcript of what he said?
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Was hoping for a transcript. Can't watch videos.***
Sep 19, 2018, 10:57 AM
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Re: I doubt he said that...the brackets seem pretty convenient.
Sep 19, 2018, 10:57 AM
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He was talking about intolerant people who attack the LGBTQ community. He called them a small percentage but said they had an ally with Trump. He wasn't calling all Trumpies or Republicans "dregs". Wilbur made that up.
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If that's what he said, then he indeed wasn't referring to
Sep 19, 2018, 10:59 AM
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Trump supporters, definitely not Republicans. He may have been talking about me, not sure. I'd like to see a transcript.
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Re: If that's what he said, then he indeed wasn't referring to
Sep 19, 2018, 11:11 AM
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Here's exactly what he said:
"Despite losing in the courts and in the court of public opinion, these forces of intolerance remain determined to undermine and roll back the progress you all have made. This time they - not you - have an ally in the White House. This time they have an ally. They are a small percentage of the American people - virulent people, some of them the dregs of society. And instead of using the full might of the executive branch to secure justice, dignity, and safety for all, the president uses the White House as a literal bully pulpit, callously exerting his power over those who have little or none."
As you can see, he's not referring to Trump supporters as a whole or Republicans.
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So can we call out Biden on the substance of his....
Sep 19, 2018, 11:21 AM
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statement then?
I take issue that Trump has used his bully pulpit to callously exert his power of LGBT folks.
If he's talking about opposition to gay marriage, then wouldn't Obama and Clinton also fit that description?
Maybe he's talking about the trans-gender military service issue, but that seems like a stretch.
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Re: So can we call out Biden on the substance of his....
Sep 19, 2018, 11:49 AM
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I take issue that Trump has used his bully pulpit to callously exert his power of LGBT folks.
As do I. I don't think Trump has done this. Plenty of bad stuff, but not this. It's fearmongering on Biden's end.
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So...
Sep 19, 2018, 11:15 AM
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You either knowingly or negligently post something false, and the recovery mode is, "Well, I bet the MSM would have done this to Trump!"
Actually, the right wing media is intentionally doing it to Biden right now.
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Well, let's clarify (although still a dumb statement)
Sep 19, 2018, 10:56 AM
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And Biden didn't technically call all Trump supporters "dregs of society". Not Republicans. Remember, neither Trump nor Trumpies are actual Republicans or conservatives. And he certainly didn't call Republicans "dregs".
He did state that certain people in the population, like KKK, neo-Nazis, and alt-right were the "dregs," and that they found comfort with the Idiot in Chief in the White House.
Kind of boils down to a logic issue. Not all Trump supporters are those kinds of people. But those kinds of people usually are Trump supporters.
However, I think Biden's statement is still a dumb one and makes the same mistake Hillary made with the "deplorable" comment. Rather than trying to understand where these people come from and bridge a gap, he devolves into more name-calling. That isn't how you'll fix the divide, Joe.
And also, be careful how you present the facts yourself.
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This is why the Democrat bench for POTUS is so troubling
Sep 19, 2018, 11:08 AM
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All the articles I read put these people at the top of the list (not in order):
Sanders, a socialist
Warren, a socialist
Kamala Harris...I don’t know much about her but I know she is a dem from CA who supports universal healthcare
Booker, who is apparently desperate to make a name for himself with disappointing theatrics
Holder...I mean, please.
And Biden, who people like but they forget what an unbelievable gaffe machine he is. And he’ll be 79, I think, in 2020.
This is a terrible bench. Terrible.
A lot of people mention Hickenloop. Don’t know much about him but maybe.
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I really don't know of anybody who would
Sep 19, 2018, 11:11 AM
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be a top pick for the dem ticket. Nobody really in Congress. Maybe a middle of the road Governor?
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Re: I really don't know of anybody who would
Sep 19, 2018, 11:13 AM
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are there even any dem governors left?
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Not really. That's the problem we have right now.
Sep 19, 2018, 11:15 AM
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There's really no middle of the road Dems with name recognition. Their consistency might be their downfall. On the other side of the aisle there is a broad spectrum of Republicans to choose from because of the fractured nature of the party.
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I'm not sure how well we complement each other.
Sep 19, 2018, 11:12 AM
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But I appreciate the compliments.
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Lulz, not what he said. “Trump supporters ..”
Sep 19, 2018, 10:59 AM
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Go Joe Go!
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Great more fake news, now I'm sure Wilbur's retraction
Sep 19, 2018, 11:27 AM
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will be run as prominently as his initial inaccurate report.
Amidoinitrite?
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I studied retraction policy under only the finest of mentors
Sep 19, 2018, 12:56 PM
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at CNN.
Expect one soon.
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