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Who do you think is the better coach, Ford or Swinney? I
May 21, 2014, 1:51 PM
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was a teenager in the mid 80s and loved Ford and Clemson Football. I still do, but comparing the two; they both have had multiple 10 wins seasons and great recruiting classes. I favor Ford but the younger generation might favor Swinney. Swinney is more of a hooray type fellow and Ford was more of a get in your face type of guy.
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i vote for ken hatfield or tommy west***
May 21, 2014, 1:52 PM
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^^^another reason women should've never been given the right***
May 21, 2014, 1:53 PM
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women have suffraged for long enough***
May 21, 2014, 1:54 PM
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how long have you been dating the opposite sechts?***
May 21, 2014, 1:54 PM
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i don't date
May 21, 2014, 1:57 PM
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i just keep a room in the pit occupied
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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it was a cover story; some here ask a lot of kweshtons...
May 21, 2014, 2:00 PM
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they know who they are. i think they're with the feds.
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i don't need no steenkin badges
May 21, 2014, 2:01 PM
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i fear no tigernetters...dead or alive
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see if you can unstick the delete button***
May 21, 2014, 2:03 PM
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If that's the case, stick a spork in me I'm done
May 21, 2014, 2:08 PM
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I could use some Anacin. Mind blown.
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i'm bringing class and sophistication back***
May 21, 2014, 1:58 PM
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Re: i vote for ken hatfield or tommy west***
May 22, 2014, 8:35 AM
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Well, Hatfield compares to Dabo closely, with a winning percentage of 70% at Clemson to Dabo's 68%. They each have one ACC title, Hatfield in his second year, Dabo in his third. Hatfield was just as religious and spiritual as Dabo, but didn't play as well with the "good old boys" in Tigertown. I don't think he was trained as a salesman, so he probably didn't know exactly how to use catchy slogans and "heartfelt" pronouncements about Clemson to obtain a majority of fans' immediate and undying loyalty at his first press conference. Hatfield had done an amazing job at the Air Force Academy, and later at Arkansas, before leaving there because of Broyles' meddling, just as Danny would several years later.
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Hatfield***
May 21, 2014, 1:52 PM
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they both performed thier jobs superbly in the time frame in
May 21, 2014, 2:00 PM
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which they held the job. Swinney could not do what he is doing now back in the 80's and Ford probably couldn't do as good of a job today (with the kids) he still is and always be a great coach.
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Orange Blooded [3881]
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oh wait a minute....my opinion doesn't matter on TigerNet
May 21, 2014, 2:02 PM
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LOL
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we need facts not opinions***
May 21, 2014, 2:02 PM
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it IS a fact, I don't donate...but I've got a killer avitar!***
May 21, 2014, 2:10 PM
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it's hard to get a straight answer around here somtimes.....***
May 21, 2014, 2:31 PM
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Re: Who do you think is the better coach, Ford or Swinney? I
May 21, 2014, 2:39 PM
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I'm going to go with Danny Ford for three reasons.
1. National Championship
2. Longer period of success
3. Didn't lose to USuCk 5 in a row.
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Heisman Winner [134589]
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well said***
May 21, 2014, 3:25 PM
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Orange Blooded [2533]
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yes***
May 21, 2014, 2:41 PM
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Re: Who do you think is the better coach, Ford or Swinney? I
May 21, 2014, 2:54 PM
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it's not serious Thursday, but Ford's teams played with an intensity that can only be dreamed about now in DV. Even at Arky, I've never seen an Arky team hit like those guys did when Ford was there. Those guys took no prisoners. Today? They act like they are afraid they might hurt somebody (or get hurt) if they hit them hard enough. JMO.
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Orange Blooded [3881]
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totally agree and I love the old school smash mouth style of
May 22, 2014, 6:12 AM
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football but the game has changed from that, as much as I hate to admit it. There is a lot of running up and down the field and there's plenty of action but one of the best games I ever saw in my life had a final score of 2-0.
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Legend [17612]
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Ford for now but Swinney is building ...
May 21, 2014, 2:56 PM
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In my last 3 yrs of Clemson, Ford lost two games. Hopefully, Swinney will accomplish that level in 2-3 yrs.
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Too early***
May 21, 2014, 3:03 PM
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Re: Too early***
May 22, 2014, 8:55 AM
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Danny Ford won 6 ACC titles in 11 years at the helm, plus a National Championship! This was part of that amazing run for Tiger football of 13 ACC titles in 36 years between 1956-1991. That works out to one title in less than every three years! Those were truly the golden years of Clemson football! Now Dabo has won more games in some years, but teams play 2-3 more games each year than they did even 10-15 years ago, so that is not a valid argument. I agree that it could be too early, if Dabo can win 5 more titles in the next 5 years, plus a NC! Otherwise, no rational fan can even attempt to compare Danny's record with Dabo's!
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Re: Who do you think is the better coach, Ford or Swinney? I
May 22, 2014, 8:48 AM
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I think it is still too early to compare Dabo with Danny. Dabo is on his way. He has matured a lot. Continuity of the way our coaches are recruiting have Dabo in the running to being a very great coach.
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Ford for sure, but I'm hoping Swinney passes him!***
May 22, 2014, 9:02 AM
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Dumbest question ever!
May 22, 2014, 9:07 AM
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Anybody who thinks Dabo is anywhere near the caliber coach that Ford was is insane or knows nothing about football. Danny Fords teams were tough, physical football teams that intimidated people. Dabo has done a good job, but these last two teams couldn't touch Ford's best teams.
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Orange Blooded [2989]
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True, Ford and his staff seemed to have tougher teams in the
May 22, 2014, 12:59 PM
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trenches, but there is also more talent and better coaching staffs spread all over the conference compared to how it was back then.
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That's like asking who is better
May 22, 2014, 9:09 AM
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God or Jesus.
Can't answer
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Orange Blooded [2989]
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Very true, but the Tigers still usually
May 22, 2014, 12:55 PM
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p*$$ed a few away every year to supposedly inferior competition.
Ford had tougher teams in the trenches, that is true, but there is more talent and better coaching staffs spread all over the conference compared to how it was back then.
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Orange Blooded [2989]
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Ford had a very good staff too, and the Tigers seemed
May 22, 2014, 1:09 PM
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to be tougher in the trenches, but like I said, the Tigers did seem to p*$$ some away to inferior programs. Fact remains that it is difficult to go undefeated, maybe more so now than it was back then.
But conferences have changed. There are better programs spread around with more talent and better coaching staffs.
We certainly won more conference championships back then, but the landscape of conferences and college football has changed so much too since then.
But I would have loved to see those teams take on Miami and FSU back then. Missed out on more years of some great football in the 90's.
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I'm going to say Ford, but I don't think
May 22, 2014, 1:20 PM
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either would thrive in the others environment. To me, Dabo has done a tremendous job and building and running a program. I just don't know how good he is at creating a game plan and actaully teaching football.
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