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Asst Coach [743]
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Can we do something about cops that have no business
Sep 6, 2020, 9:21 AM
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being cops? And dirty sheriffs? What would be something to do there? Can we agree that it would benefit every race (white, black, asian, native american, hispanic, jewish, arabic, irish) if we could make sure all the cops and sheriffs honest and just really good people it would be awesome!!!
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CU Medallion [58417]
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Better yet, lets just eliminate all evil.***
Sep 6, 2020, 9:25 AM
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All-In [27366]
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Re: Better yet, lets just eliminate all evil.***
Sep 6, 2020, 9:45 AM
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Now why hasn't anybody ever thought of that before!?
Let's do it!
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Legend [17310]
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Re: Better yet, lets just eliminate all evil.***
Sep 6, 2020, 10:56 AM
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It's only unthinkable if nobody's thought of it.
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All-In [40936]
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gets my vote***
Sep 6, 2020, 9:10 PM
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If we can get rid of the criminals with badges, the good
Sep 6, 2020, 9:34 AM
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ones would be pleased.
Can't argue with that.
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Orange Blooded [2936]
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Re: Can we do something about cops that have no business
Sep 6, 2020, 9:35 AM
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You should become a cop, get back to us when your dealing with thugs all alone. While doing so don’t carry a gun and be polite at all time.
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All-TigerNet [11025]
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Re: Can we do something about cops that have no business
Sep 6, 2020, 10:16 AM
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We should pass a law that says if you break the law you go to jail.
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Asst Coach [731]
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Re: Can we do something about cops that have no business
Sep 6, 2020, 10:20 AM
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Yesss! let's don't let any of the bad people be in law enforcement. I'll be the judge.
Let's get this done Tigernet!
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All-TigerNet [12592]
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You must be a very tired tiger
Sep 6, 2020, 10:34 AM
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Is there a groundswell for hiring and retaining rogue cops? Who supports that? What's your solution? Do cops have a monopoly on rogue behavior? I would be interested in your proposals. While you're at it, let's look at politicians, the clergy, lawyers, doctors, contractors, uh everyone. The proposals of defunding the police and closing prisons seem just a wee bit shortsighted to this simple man.
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Re: You must be a very tired tiger
Sep 6, 2020, 11:06 AM
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Most of our problems can be laid at the feet of our politicians on both sides of the aisle. Why do we continue to elect career politicians who are responsible for many of our problems? How can we expect those who create problems to find solutions to those problems?
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All-TigerNet [12592]
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Re: You must be a very tired tiger
Sep 6, 2020, 11:25 AM
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100% correct. We should be in the streets demanding term limits. There should absolutely not be a vocation known as a politician. Serve and go home. Next up. Problems would actually get addressed and compromise would not be viewed as a dirty word.
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All-In [27374]
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Re: You must be a very tired tiger
Sep 6, 2020, 11:49 AM
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It would be much better if those elected to run the country were astute businessmen and ladies who care more about the country than being elected to a position. As it is now, the Republicans will have an impossible job of allowing anything to happen in America that would be positive for the citizens of this great country because the Democrats don’t want them to be successful. And this same narrative is true for the Democrats. The Republicans don’t want any of their ideas to be good for us all. And who suffers under this kind of “leadership”? YOU and ME.
The checks and balance system is a total failure. But I fear we are stuck with what we have.
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Orange Blooded [3616]
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Re: You must be a very tired tiger
Sep 6, 2020, 12:42 PM
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"There should absolutely not be a vocation known as a politician. "
I was recently pulling up some historical context to convince a friend against the overwhelming current laziness that views the Confederates as traitors (like calling a person who divorces and remarries "adulterer" or "bigamist" simply because YOU refuse to acknowledge the dissolution of their previous legal relationship.) That is not the topic of this post.
But what we discussed is that the State of Maryland in 1861 was not only a pro-slavery state with a pro-slavery governor, but he proclaimed his state to be neutral in the conflict, thereby prohibiting the Federal forces from crossing Maryland in an attempt at fortifying DC. (They violated Maryland's 'sovereignty' anyway by doing it at night by train. The troops boarded the trains in PA, crossed over MD and rode into DC, never setting foot on the soil of MD, and therefore tacitly 'respected' Maryland's sovereignty. )
He was disappointed that he wasn't able to persuade the state to secede with the other pro-slave states, but the topic of secession didn't arise during the normal BIENNIAL legislative session. In other words, once the legislators went home in summer of 1860, they were not scheduled to return until spring of 1862. TWO YEARS between legislative sessions. He was able to call them back for a special session in spring of 1861, but by that time whatever secession momentum existed had been countered by President Lincoln, so the vote failed.
Which today we would acknowledge was a good thing.
My point is simply that the concept of a politician as a vocation is a modern and unfortunate development in our country.
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Re: You must be a very tired tiger
Sep 7, 2020, 7:15 PM
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First of all, term limits are unconstitutional.
Secondly, I think people who acquire experience and expertise would do a better job than newby amateurs.
It IS possible for someone to be a long serving Congressperson and continue to be dedicated to serving their constituents for the good of the country. In fact, I think there are a number of them serving right now. The problem is that they don't accrue any real power because they are not for sale to the lobbyists of the rich oligarchs in this country.
If you want to see Congress become more responsive to the American people, get the money out of politics - campaign financing and lobbying.
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Re: You must be a very tired tiger
Sep 6, 2020, 11:07 AM
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Rogue cops are in the minority. Looters, criminals, arsonists, thieves, vandals, and assaulters appear to outnumber the good cops. Give a solution to that since the mayors and governors of these fine states don't care.
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Orange Blooded [4365]
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Re: You must be a very tired tiger
Sep 7, 2020, 7:23 PM
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2000,
First of all, let's not denigrate all of the mayors and governors across the nation.
What if we paid the police more and did a better job of psychologically screening them before accepting them into training programs ? What if we trained them to protect and serve everybody's rights ? What if we taught them techniques for de-escalating violent situations ? What if we reminded them that the courts are in charge of innocence or guilt and the punishment thereof ? What if we encouraged them to exercise authority instead of power ?
I know that there are plenty of bad guys out there and the police can't just wave a magic wand, but what if they could be trained to make it better. Other countries seem to take a different approach to criminal justice and they have not descended into chaos.
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Re: You must be a very tired tiger
Sep 6, 2020, 11:35 AM
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When I was a youngsterthe only guys who I knew that wanted to be a cop or trooper was the guys who liked to drive Fast, carry a gun, Wear the sexy tight unis to impress the young lady’s. I suspect that hasn’t changed a lot. .
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Re: Can we do something about cops that have no business
Sep 6, 2020, 11:46 AM
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Agree let's do something-vote.
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All-In [27374]
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Re: Can we do something about cops that have no business
Sep 6, 2020, 11:56 AM
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I fear that just voting Isn’t the answer. There are few ‘professional politicans’ That have the savvy to solve America’s problems. The Democrats as a whole can’t do it nor can their counterparts in the Republican Party. It’s going to take clever people working together for a common cause. Good luck with that. Election Day will give us four more years of the same old same old. You know I am telling the truth!
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CU Medallion [60043]
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Re: Can we do something about cops that have no business
Sep 6, 2020, 12:16 PM
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Can we get rid of boss’ that try to sexually harass their employees? Can we get rid of the Ponzi schemes and the guys that take advantage of the poor? Could we also do away with pastors that are only there to profit?
The problem isn’t just in law enforcement. Peoples lives are ruined every single day by people like the above.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Can we do something about people that have no business
Sep 6, 2020, 1:40 PM
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...being politicians?
...being librarians?
...being doctors?
...being teachers?
...being car mechanics?
...zookeepers?
...coaches?
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110%er [8988]
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Re: Can we do something about cops that have no business
Sep 6, 2020, 1:56 PM
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better pay, shorter hours (more officers), pension would probably attract better candidates, add a new penny sales tax for each municipality to fund it
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Orange Blooded [3616]
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Re: Can we do something about cops that have no business
Sep 6, 2020, 5:25 PM
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We did those things already, and most of us thought the problems were solved.
But until you can find a way to get convicted felons facing a third strike or a 300-pound man high on drugs to stop resisting arrest, apparently more "bad" cops gonna show up.
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Re: Can we do something about cops that have no business
Sep 6, 2020, 8:40 PM
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I’m not sure we can buy better police officers. As I posted earlier, there is a special kind of Individual who aspires to be a cop, I was looking through a local newspaper recently and there was a story Of This years high school graduates. And their Plans for the future. Nearly all the young guys hoped to go to the local community college and study criminal justice with hopes of become state troopers. I knew several of these kids from local athletic teams and I suspect they would not be a credit to the force! But that is where the guys now in the news comes from. (My phone is going haywire so excuse the ‘extras’! Bbbb need comes l pans oh an
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All-TigerNet [11640]
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Officers are protected by unions...
Sep 6, 2020, 9:36 PM
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Sheriffs are an elected position and usually do not need a law enforcement background.
Break the unions. Vote for the other guy.
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