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Orange Blooded [2079]
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How to shock start a negotiation:
Aug 4, 2020, 3:02 PM
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Demand 50/50 revenue split while knowing all long that the true goal is far more realistic (lower) percentage.
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Legend [15757]
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This is why as a negotiator you must understand
Aug 4, 2020, 3:23 PM
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the value you bring and negotiate based on that. If you panic and start thinking in terms of how low your counter can be, you’re screwed. The response can be a very firm “We have already offered to maintain your scholarship if you opt out due to COVID concerns...anyone who opts our that has signed their name to the WeAreUnited initiative, we have to assume is objecting to lack of payment and we will revoke your scholarship. We have a amateur athlete structure and you are free to participate or not.”
The ugly truth is that athletes (football) are getting a great deal. They can pass and try their luck getting ready for the NFL on their own, or join a developmental league if they can find one. Or they can take the best offer out there. Pass on that, and I think they put themselves at a huge disadvantage, but that’s their right. But if the schools pass on the players’ demands, they lose almost nothing.
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Orange Blooded [2079]
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I agree, step one is to properly understand your leverage.***
Aug 4, 2020, 3:27 PM
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Re:How to shock start a negotiation: I thought at 1st glance
Aug 4, 2020, 3:23 PM
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it said nepotism and not negotiation. I was going to then suggest ask Swoff
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CU Medallion [55685]
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Re:How to shock start a negotiation: I thought at 1st glance
Aug 4, 2020, 5:23 PM
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Ask Swoff what, how to screw the entire system, he has been really good at that as the commissioner of the ACC!!!!
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And if your demands are unreasonable
Aug 4, 2020, 3:26 PM
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as these student-athletes' demands are, then you risk alienating the other side and having them walk away from the negotiation table completely.
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Legend [15757]
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Honestly, these "demands" could, and in my opinion SHOULD,
Aug 4, 2020, 3:42 PM
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be a tipping point for academic leadership. A wake-up call that the tail has wagged the dog for far too long. It would be appropriate and admirable if they had some leadership come to the table with a firm "no", a re-commitment to the student-athlete model, and even some reductions in the expenses they put into college athletics.
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Legend [17896]
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Thank you Donald.***
Aug 4, 2020, 3:31 PM
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CU Medallion [55685]
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Re: How to shock start a negotiation:
Aug 4, 2020, 3:43 PM
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Can we all agree that college FB has become one of the biggest money making markets that we have in this country as in big business. Well if you do agree that college FB is big business, there is no way in h&11 or high water can it remain a big business with splitting it's profit revenue with it participants of the game any more than than a big business if it's to remain a big business. No other big business does that with it's participants, (the employee's) if they did, they would be out of business just as college FB would be if they split their profits with the players!!! College FB players are getting what they knew they would get when they sign their letter of intent, and they have better options than most employee's that agree to work for whatever the salary was when they were accepted into a company work force!!! College FB players can transfer out to another same business and lose nothing, but some maybe at a higher risk of injury wherever they transfer to!!!
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It's called setting the box...
Aug 4, 2020, 4:07 PM
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The risk you run over-inflating or under-valuing during a negotiation is insulting and/or alienating the opposing side.
It takes two parties to parties to negotiate and in my experience, rather than playing games, it's more productive to come to the table with the right frame of mind ready to get the deal done.
That approach has been pretty successful for me over the years but there have certainly been times when everyone who attended the meeting walked away really pi$$ed-off.
I attended a negotiation about six months ago and not only did the opposing side not show-up ready to negotiate, they actually requested an additional $30 million in costs that had never been mentioned previously.
I walked away pi$$ed-off that day.
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CU Medallion [66046]
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TigerBalm1 says you better start the negotiation with two
Aug 4, 2020, 5:27 PM
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questions:
1) Are you a police officer?
2) Are you in any capacity working with or for law enforcement?
Rumor has it that not getting proper answers to these questions can lead to some immediately sirius problems.
Rumor also has it that getting the right answers from the wrong person can lead to other sirius problems down the road.
Moral of that story is: Don't negotiate in the first place.
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Re: TigerBalm1 says you better start the negotiation with two
Aug 4, 2020, 6:48 PM
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Player split 50% of Conference revenue and health insurance in exchange for revenue sharing 50% of players income for 6 years whether they go NFL or work force.
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