You lost. The election and to Tobias.

Tobias,

You have no idea how satisfying it's been to watch you squirm, bob & weave and avoid responding to my answers to the questions YOU asked me to address. Your silence is all we need to know. As we both know, my answers were solid, to the point and literally stopped you in your tracks, for fear of looking, well, like you always look....I think you know the words .......disingenuous and cowardly, something we've all come to expect from you.

I challenged you to a debate: you ran and hid

I challenged you to answer my last post: you ran and hid and played sick

I challenged you to provide evidence, not opinions and hunches: you ran and hid.

I suggested it's a cojones problem: you ran and hid (really!!)

I called you a pu$$ie: you ran and hid

I challenged you to a wager: you ran and hid.

An especially amusing secondary clown show was your buddies rallying to save you and see who could out-stupid the other. Thnx to that crowd.

TYVM, Tobias..you're avoidance of engaging me honestly is the ultimate compliment. The usual liberal white flag when your powder is dry! Knew you would slink away...................

Excuse me while I LMAO.

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Thank goodness, I thought you'd lost those cojones! The question is, Mr. Deflection, are you going to respond to my latest, up to date, summary that you know that I'm referring to or just pretend that you've already addressed these issues? What a tool.

OK, Mr. ###########. I think you're a huge fraud and you and I know you've been had.

I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DEBATE, A REAL ONE , IN PERSON. YOU CAN BRING ANYONE OF YOUR BUDDIES TO ADVISE YOU, I'LL COME ALONE. ARE YOU UP TO IT OR ARE YOU JUST A PU__Y, AS I SUSPECT? WE'LL SEE WHAT YOU'RE MADE OF. CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU DEFLECTIONS AND EXCUSE.

I'VE LEFT A 'TOB RESPONSE' example so you can just fill in your response. Fair enough?

Miura,

1.TOB: Yes, I think Bobu is lying, exaggerating and trying to imply something that is NOT supported by evidence.

ans: ["you think"; pure opinion by you, no facts] F

TOB RESPONSE:

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TOB: What is it that Bobu has said that you think is so incriminating, especially to President-elect Biden ?

ans: [just look at the tape..he called Biden a liar and described the 'secret meeting in detail". STRONG circumstantial evidence (ADMISSABLE, TO REMIND YOU). Let's recall that he told the FBI the same thing, UNDER OATH.] [What are the chances he would lie to the FBI AND the nation?][ Bobu's interview looked credible--MY opinion] F

TOB RESPONSE:

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TOB: And why doesn't the FBI agree with you ??

ans: [you and I don't know if they do or not; again, the FBI does not discuss......ongoing investigations !!!!] F
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2.TOB: No, I don't think the laptop has been adequately established to belong to Hunter Biden. And even if that can be established, what is on the computer that is harmful to President Elect Biden ?? Again, the FBI has had it for awhile so whatever you think is so damaging to Joe doesn't seem to be worrying them at this time. Why doesn't the FBI bring felony charges against President-elect Biden ??

ans: [I repeat, the FBI doesn't....etc] [ you're saying there is nothing incriminating ON THE TAPES? [ OPINION AND GUESSWORK; HOW do you know Joe isn't
worried ? Actually, his avoidance of discussing it suggests he IS] F
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3. TOB: I DO think President-elect Biden is the big guy. And after Jan 29th, he will be the BIG GUY. What is it that you think "the big guy" did that is so serious? And why doesn't the FBI move on that info ?

ans: [glad you agree that Joe IS The Big Guy. Progress for you]. D
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4. TOB: I think that is a real possibility (that Joe is The BIG Guy). What of it ? What do you think happened at this meeting of Americans that you think Joe Biden is somehow compromised ?

ans: [SO, YOU AGREE IT'S POSSIBLE? Then, By definition, you're saying he could be compromised. Therefore the logical need for an investigation, right?] D
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5. TOB: The plagarism accusation is an old one from 1987 (over 30 years ago). Here is how it is described in a Guardian article that includes a quote from Neil Kinnock - the guy that Biden supposedly plagarized -
"In his closing remarks at a Democratic primary debate, he lifted passages from one of Kinnock’s most moving speeches without attribution. The resulting plagiarism “scandal” sank Biden’s campaign.

A generation later, Biden is preparing for three presidential debates against Donald Trump and has the full support of Lord Kinnock, now a Labour peer who always regarded the incident as an innocent mistake.

“Joe’s an honest guy,” the 78-year-old said by phone from his home in north London."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/07/neil-kinnock-joe-biden-1987-scandal

Neil Kinnock on Biden’s plagiarism 'scandal' and why he deserves to win: ‘Joe’s an honest guy'

In a 1987 debate, Biden used Kinnock’s phrases into his own speech and forgot to credit him – a mistake many believe cost him the presidency

ans: [You're funniest post yet! Pure spin; Kinnock is stating an opinion, that's all; the only FACT here is that Joe was a plagiarizer and it cost him dearly and tarnished his credibility; he had to stop his presidential campaign--some people think that is ALWAYS a problem...esp. if you're running for the Presidency] F-
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TOB: Also, for any Trump supporter to point out the possible lies of any other politician is like, 4 dimensional ironic.

ans: [not relevant to the discussion; just a cheap shot, totally expected; I do agree absolutely that Trump lies a lot and I don't like it one bit. Embarrassing.] F
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6. TOB: No, Biden Hunter and his brother James were pursuing some possible business deals with Chinese companies.

ans:[ agree, of course; it is perfectly legal to do business with Chinese companies]. A

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TOB: there is no evidence of other Bidens (especially the President-elect) being involved nor in the Chinese Communist Party setting up the office.

ans: [simply YOUR opinion; NO FACTS] F
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TOB:Your boy Trump is knee-deep in that puddle.

ans: [your opinion, no facts; another silly accusation]
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7. TOB: I have explained this to you numerous times. Real power players often don't engage with D level wannabies. It's called a pitch in the dirt and smart people don't get dragged down into the mud by lesser players. It's like if Cry-o Day called out Dabo. Dabo is too smart to dignify Cry-o's remarks with an answer - and give the ridiculous story any oxygen. Smart politicians do it all of the time. Perhaps you have forgotten because for the last four years the President of the United States has gotten down in the mud with anyone who mentioned his name in any thing less that a worshipful tone, but it is still the norm for real politicians - and most mature adults.

ANS: [pure OPINION ...irrelevant to the discussion, just cheap shots which make me laugh]
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8. TOB: Circumstantial evidence - really ?? You want to challenge the legitimacy of the next President of the United States based on circumstantial evidence. BTW, your definition of circumstantial evidence is any ludicrous allegation or circumstance that you can manage to twist into your perverted little conspiracy fantasies.

ans: [news flash: CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS INDEED EVIDENCE and is admissible (sorry you can't grasp that concept!!); the POTUS is eligible to have circumstantial evidence used against him, just like you and me][ IN FACT, it could well be the catalyst for a special counsel--just like it was against Trump}
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TOB: The bottom line is that the serious investigators at the FBI have ALL of the information that you think is soo incriminating and they don't seemed to be nearly as alarmed as you. I think I am going to trust their assessment and investigation until something substantial comes up.

ans: [pure opinion; nobody knows what is incriminating; neither of us knows what they have or how 'alarmed' they are, and we won't until the criminal investigation is completed and made public][reminder #4 THE FBI DOES NOT LEAK OR DISCUSS ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS...PLEASE TRY TO REMEMBER THIS BEFORE YOU POST...GGEESSSHH!] F
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TOB: In the meantime, I have answered ALL of your questions. As my reward I want YOU to answer ALL of mine. That seems fair enough. That is if you have the balls to answer my questions. That is if you actually have any answers (as opposed to supposition & innuendo)

ans: I will await your rebuttals before this is called a Tobias "beatdown". You've been fairly challenged. Pop some testosterone and get back with me. I failed to tell you that I was the president of my college debating team: undefeated, with one tie, in three years. The key to good debating is identifying the KEY concept, rather than going off willy-nilly with opinions and insults and getting lost in the bushes. F+ for you.

******My biggest point: You know what happens with STRONG circumstantial evidence in high level case?: it gets investigated by a SPECIAL COUNSEL. END OF STORY. STAND BY.

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