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All-In [26968]
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I see a new trend...
Apr 20, 2021, 11:25 AM
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Call people you don't like in government a "bureaucrat," as an insult. Like that makes them not important, or something.
In a denotative sense, "bureaucrats" are incredibly important, as they actually run the government on a day-to-day basis. They actually execute what the leaders put forth.
In the pejorative connotative sense, "bureaucrat" is usually referring to someone who is overly concerned about procedure and hierarchy.
Sounds like people are inventing a new connotation.
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All-TigerNet [10892]
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not new, and it is indeed an insult. They are scum.***
Apr 20, 2021, 11:26 AM
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You just called about 24 million Americans "scum".
Apr 20, 2021, 11:33 AM
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15% of the population
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All-TigerNet [10892]
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yep***
Apr 20, 2021, 2:22 PM
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All-In [26968]
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Bill Barr was scum? Dr. Ben Carson was scum?
Apr 20, 2021, 2:43 PM
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Our FBI and Secret Service officers are scum? The lady who has worked the desk downtown issuing marriage licenses for 25 years is scum?
I know you don't think this. Well, I hope you don't.
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All-TigerNet [10892]
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Yes.***
Apr 20, 2021, 3:13 PM
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Re: I see a new trend...
Apr 20, 2021, 11:30 AM
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I usually slide an adjective in first. Shiity bureaucrat, worthless bureaucrat, grandstanding bureaucrat, etc.
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Oculus Spirit [97731]
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Communist versus capitalist definitions
Apr 20, 2021, 11:30 AM
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In communists terms, bureaucrats run the government and are exceptionally important. In capitalist nations, they're generally still running the government, but are a hindrance to money making.
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Re: I see a new trend...
Apr 20, 2021, 11:30 AM
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Oculus Spirit [97731]
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That's the capitalist version/definition
Apr 20, 2021, 11:53 AM
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But among less free nations, communists and dictatorships, etc. the bureaucrats are the extension of the authority form the top, and as such they run the place, literally. In that scenario, they're powerful and respected. You want to go places, you better be on the good graces of the bureaucrats. Similar to the way you have to be in the good graces of bureaucrats in liberal cities to get building permits, favorable zoning, etc.
In rural republican areas, they're generally loathed.
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Re: That's the capitalist version/definition
Apr 20, 2021, 2:27 PM
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Yeah, Made in USA bureaucrats hinder completion of any work to ensure they have a job tomorrow to do what they were supposed to do today.
Sure, there are some solid government employees, but the majority would go nowhere in private industry where, at least historically, meritocracy rules.
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