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TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Short on Experience or Talent? I think your title is mis-written. TL16 was a Fresh and showed he had the Talent to do big things, not experience.
You know what the issues are, David.
Stop covering for this staff……speak the truth.
They should be re-stocking b/c the talent isn’t what it used to be.
Here it comes, wait for it …..I must be a coot.
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Jan 24, 2024, 8:46 AM
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Yeah there was no backup issue for DW4 and for TL16, Chase Brice was a different backup than Pearman and Vizzina will be to start the season.
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
Jan 24, 2024, 5:07 PM
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If you're not, you missed a good chance, but you are right that Dabo should have already made the call for getting a really talented QB on the roster bc, using the lack of a talented QB on the roster is poor A$$ excuse for losing if your #1 starting QB goes down and he doesn't a talented QB ready to step in if needed!!! And I know as well as most T-Netters know, I'm not a d a m n smelly A$$ chicken, but sometimes the truth do hurt even if it's coming from a 61 year never die Tiger that flaunts a Tiger Paw every time I step out the door of my home here in Cootlumbia!!! Like I've said, by not having a talented QB that could start most anywhere is poor A$$ excuse for losing if your starter goes down and you don't have a proven QB to plug in!!!
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Jan 24, 2024, 8:30 AM
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If Pearman and Vizzina are so great why did we never see them last year? You can play up to 4 games and redshirt. Yet these guys really never saw the field. That should concern us. Dabo could make me sound good but where is the pt and experience at qb? I like Cade but a couple of times he should have sat for a series or so for some of his mistakes. We need to see what these guys can do and we should have found a way to get a portal qb.
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these coaches were holding on for dear life last year..
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we were heading for a losing record in dramatic fashion until Tyler from Spartanburg showed up and woke everyone up. They knew Cade gave them the best shot and the other guys were surely going to be a liability. We didnt' have many games where we stretched the lead enough to get guys experience. IT was a stressful season for this staff.
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Re: Unfortunately, we didn't have many games where we had a comfortable lead
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Jan 24, 2024, 10:14 AM
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Exactly. Cade needed to play as many snaps as possible. In every situation. That along with the stated plan to redshirt CV just didn’t create opportunities for CV to play. Hopefully we see a little more of him this year - not out of necessity, but because we get into a position where it makes sense to get him some experience.
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Re: Unfortunately, we didn't have many games where we had a comfortable lead
Jan 24, 2024, 12:37 PM
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And Dabo has said, on occasions, that CV has been performing extremely well, though not in games. Spring should be good.
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We got this! Riley is a QB whisperer.
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Jan 24, 2024, 8:41 AM
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At least he’s paid well enough to be one.
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Ive missed you so Uncle Rico***
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Jan 24, 2024, 9:01 AM
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The only thing that really bugs me is when Dabo is asked about Vizzina he never seems to speak with any confidence or excitement about his abilities. This kinda reinforces what I read earlier (Maybe Hood, not sure) that there were those in the program disappointed in Vizzina's development.
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I agree, it's telling when Dabo doesn't rave about someone.
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Jan 24, 2024, 9:18 AM
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He's had walk-ons who he claimed were going to help us a bunch, set records, and play in the NFL. For him to not rave about Vizzina suggests that the jury is still out.
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Re: I agree, it's telling when Dabo doesn't rave about someone.
Jan 24, 2024, 5:55 PM
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Of course the jury is still out. The poor guy has been in witness protection up to now.
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Jan 24, 2024, 10:24 AM
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“ It’s been a fun week or so watching him. You get reminded pretty quick on why he was such a high-level recruit. He is big. He is strong. He can run. He is accurate with the football. He is a very good player.”
What more do you want him to say? When he says a guy is going to play on Sunday like he did with HJ, y’all call him delusional. If he doesn’t gush on a guy he must be trash. If he’s middle of the road it’s coach speak. If he says CV is great, y’all will demand someone ask why he’s not starting ahead of Cade. Some people just gonna complain about anything a coach says.
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Not so fast Scooter
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Jan 24, 2024, 9:05 AM
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Clemson had less QB1 at an elite D1 program starting experience to start the season last year.
This year is not the case.
despite the highly adopted Sales Man notions and narrative that super senior benchwarmer QBs in the lockerroom add value, this QB room is better because Cade is now better. The loss of those senior guys has had zero negative impact.
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Jan 24, 2024, 9:05 AM
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Well you only need 1 QB and he is experienced, as long as he performs and stays healthy then experience shouldn't matter.
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Hope is not a plan.***
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Wouldn't it be great if there were a way to bring in a talented, experienced QB
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who could transfer immediately and provide veteran leadership?
They should invent something like that.
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We should just bring in Tom Brady.***
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Jan 24, 2024, 9:22 AM
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Re: We should just bring in Tom Brady.***
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Jan 24, 2024, 10:26 AM
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While we are at it we should also hire Belichick or Pete Carroll.
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Re: A talented, experienced, Portal QB would want to be the Starter .
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Jan 24, 2024, 12:01 PM
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Or if not CK, CV would likely portal out. Either way, we would probably lose one of them.
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How many teams have multiple top-tier QBs with a lot of experience?
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Jan 24, 2024, 9:22 AM
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Very very few. We are not unique at all in that regard. Physically, CV has all of the tools. If he understands the offense and can learn to read defenses, he'll be fine. Can Trent Pearman lead us to a championship? I have no idea, but he was a dang good HS QB at Daniel, and a lot of schools win with QBs with similar HS pedigrees.
I'll try to be realistic, but I have no reason to be negative about the QB situation at this point.
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I am not convinced that Klubnik can be the QB we need him to be.
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Jan 24, 2024, 9:33 AM
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I hope he can, but I just haven't seen it with any sort of consistency.
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That's fair. At the moment, we don't have an obviouis TL/DW.
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Jan 24, 2024, 12:41 PM
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I get that. We may never have that again, or may go a while before we do. That doesn't mean our QB situation is in the tank, or that any fix is needed.
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Re: How many teams have multiple top-tier QBs with a lot of experience?
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Jan 24, 2024, 9:42 AM
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I agree. I think our WB situation is good, not great but reliable. The way some speak on here about Klubnik, there is not much difference between QBs 1-2-3 or 4. If we go through most of the season and we’re using #4…..we can always put in an extra tackle or TEs and just run the ball.
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Re: How many teams have multiple top-tier QBs with a lot of experience?
Jan 24, 2024, 9:43 AM
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QB situation.
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Re: How many teams have multiple top-tier QBs with a lot of experience?
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Actually, I would be willing to bet that every team That was in the top 10 or 12 and certainly the playoff level teams. All had talent and depth far greater than Clemson at the quarterback position.
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Re: How many teams have multiple top-tier QBs with a lot of experience?
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Jan 24, 2024, 12:02 PM
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One can argue talent, but I don’t think Alabama’s QB experience level was any better than our last year.
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I haven't researched it, so I have no argument. I just don't think many
Jan 24, 2024, 12:47 PM
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top flight QBs are willing to ride the bench for more than a year or two max when it's so easy now to go somewhere else to play. Therefore I don't know why any team would have 3-4 playoff level QBs. And we really have no idea how good or bad CV is; we can only assume that he wasn't better than CK.
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Sadly, I just don't see anything in Cade that leads me to believe he has the ability
to take us anywhere. I hate to say that. The first time I saw DW4 and TL16 I KNEW that
they had "it". Cade isn't in the top 3 QBs in the ACC
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INB4 "Deshaun and Trevor were generational QBs"
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Jan 24, 2024, 9:48 AM
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and we shouldn't have high expectations for Cade since it's unfair to hold him to such a high standard.
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Re: INB4 "Deshaun and Trevor were generational QBs"
Jan 25, 2024, 9:10 PM
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Well, compare him to other QB's in the ACC. I don't know if he can get better than he is and right now he is not top 5 in our league IMO. I have never seen another QB anywhere who runs into a sack or has more intentional groundings than CK. I say let's let him hand the ball off without that RPO disaster from last year that sent #1 to the pros.
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Left off Tucker Israel from the beginning of that 2018 Spring
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Owned and broke all of Tim Tebows Florida passing/TD records in high school.
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Jan 24, 2024, 10:14 AM
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Uhhh.. in that Elite 11 clip were CV's receivers just really bad? That clip doesn't make me feel better. Half incomplete, on the ground.
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Jan 24, 2024, 11:14 AM
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The QB room is a problem. No other way to spin in.
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Jan 24, 2024, 11:58 AM
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It doesn't matter what the QB did in high school or in the Elite 11 or in the Spring Game. If they are 2/3 years into their collage career and don't have "it", then you have to get another one. There is no time to develop QB's anymore. The only solution is to get a guy who can start and win on day one -which is almost certainly going to be from the Portal. Unless you are Ohio State and want to pay everyone 2 million to be backups, you will not have a room like Clemson did in 2018.
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
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Jan 24, 2024, 3:35 PM
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Can one learn pocket awareness? Klubnik’s Achilles heel is that he has none. He can throw darts and can run too. He also has leadership qualities. But, it’s frustrating watching him sometimes. Throw the football now…and don’t throw a pick six.
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Re: TNET: Tigers short on experience at the QB spot in 2024
Jan 25, 2024, 9:48 PM
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My question all year was where was CV? Was he not even good enough to some development in his 4 games while still keeping the redshirt????
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