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TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 12:19 PM
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Here we go
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 12:19 PM
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So it begins!!!!
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Means we must know we can leave and
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That someone is going to take us when we leave.
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Re: Means we must know we can leave and
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Mar 19, 2024, 12:47 PM
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Yep. I think this has been the strategy all along...be a silent partner as someone else (FSU) tests the waters, line up a new home for a soft landing in the meantime, and be one of the first 2 schools to attempt to exit once it seemed viable.
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Re: Means we must know we can leave and
Mar 19, 2024, 10:44 PM
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The verbiage that the schools did not vote on the ACC lawsuit is interesting. You think some lawyers knew the ACC would overlook having members vote on whether to file a lawsuit against FSU. Definitely seems like FSU and Clemson are in lock step with planning this.
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I'm definitely OK with that
Mar 20, 2024, 9:08 AM
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Clemson and FSU as a package deal is a much stronger sell than either of us alone...especially if B1G is the destination, where we'd essentially be their entire Southern division.
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Just like FSU did when they started talking publicly...
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Mar 19, 2024, 1:42 PM
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.... a year ago.
Remember the words of Dabo, "We all know where this is going to end up."
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Wish Dabo hadn't said that
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Mar 19, 2024, 1:53 PM
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the way he did. Obviously, there are some who didn't have a clue where this would end up. lol
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Re: Wish Dabo hadn't said that
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Mar 19, 2024, 4:02 PM
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How do you know what Dabo meant
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Re: Wish Dabo hadn't said that
Mar 19, 2024, 5:43 PM
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He meant that everyone knows it will end up in court. It did.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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This is for all you dummies that bashed FSU for their lawsuit....this is the right thing to do and I'm glad Clemson is making moves to secure it's future in the sports world
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 1:12 PM
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The dummies are the ones who wanted to push this narrative before we were ready.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 2:26 PM
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I don't think so. This is like a marriage that has soured. It was never going to be amicable.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
Mar 20, 2024, 10:04 AM
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Irreconcilable difference, I think is the term.
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Something to woohoo about.
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Go Tigers!
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 12:22 PM
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Seems like the only option, the ACC was protecting the interests of their teams.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 2:18 PM
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The ACC was protecting it's interest of their own, and their own only. They don't give a crap about the performance of their members as they have shown that to be a fact with how bad the ACC is in FB, and that is the exact reason why ESECPN wouldn't pay the ACC more than the price of chicken feed!!!
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 2:31 PM
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Strongly agree.
The administrators in the ACC office were protecting their own job security and benefits, not the long-term benefit of member schools. This is why the ACC deserves the same fate as the PAC10.
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CLEMSON IS SEC
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Mar 19, 2024, 12:22 PM
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CFB runs through Clemson Alabama and Georgia. And it always will for the next decade.
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Re: CLEMSON IS SEC
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If Clemson joins the SEC, what will all the media have to disparage? They will have to admit we are top tier?!?!
Go Tigers!
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Re: CLEMSON IS SEC
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Wait till Gamecocks go check which area is top 5 in ABC and ESPN Primetime viewership and they see G'ville, Spartanburg, Asheville, Anderson as the area instead of Columbia, Charleston, Myrtle Beach.
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Re: CLEMSON IS SEC
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Mar 19, 2024, 2:21 PM
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That is why the SEC and the Big gets mega bucks from ESECPN, and the ACC gets chicken feed!!!
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Re: CLEMSON IS SEC
Mar 19, 2024, 10:54 PM
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Easy there, Charleston has a lot of people who watch a lot of football. Better wording would be that Charleston is not Gamecock territory like they think it is. Down here it's about 5 in 10 Clemson to 3 in 10 SC to 2 in 10 some SEC bandwagon fans.
Anyways, don't lump Charleston in with Cola, because Charleston is not Cola. As a city, it's better in every way, and as a TV market, Clemson is the majority.
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Re: CLEMSON IS SEC
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I don't understand why so many automatically revert to the SEC...There are also 2 other conferences we could do well in and be paid handsomely.IMHO
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Re: CLEMSON IS SEC
Mar 19, 2024, 2:27 PM
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One other conference. It's the SEC or B1G. That's it, imo.
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Re: CLEMSON IS SEC
Mar 19, 2024, 12:46 PM
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Along with FSU, OSU and Michigan
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I think Clemson would be more attractive to the B1G. Expand the footprint.
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The SEC already has one SC school.
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Re: I think Clemson would be more attractive to the B1G. Expand the footprint.
Mar 19, 2024, 9:36 PM
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SCAR has 1.5X Clemson's enrollment, so I'd expect more SCAR grads to live in the Greenville-Spartanburg area than Clemson grads, but I've never seen data on it. Do you have any data on it?
The SEC has never kicked out a school, let alone in order to replace it with a more attractive school If they were going to boot schools based on TV revenue, they'd have booted Vandy long ago.
Clemson draws far more viewers than SCAR, but I don't see the SEC booting SCAR. They might add Clemson, but I think Clemson would be more attractive to the B1G than to the SEC.
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Re: I think Clemson would be more attractive to the B1G. Expand the footprint.
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By reminding everyone that Texass is the biggest state in America!!!
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Re: I think Clemson would be more attractive to the B1G. Expand the footprint.
Mar 19, 2024, 8:58 PM
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The 2 schools from AL, MS, TX, & TN are making big SEC money so they're not going to uproot tradition and fly their student-athletes all over the country by jumping to the B1G.
Clemson is making little ACC money, so it would be worthwhile for Clemson to jump to the B1G. The B1G could find Clemson attractive because Clemson is a prominent football school with lots of eyeballs in an expanded geographic market.
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Re: I think Clemson would be more attractive to the B1G. Expand the footprint.
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So what you are saying is the ACC made a mistake having 3 schools within 30 miles of each not to mention a 4th school right down the road. I guess we should take UNC with us where ever we go to help out the ACC.
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Re: I think Clemson would be more attractive to the B1G. Expand the footprint.
Mar 19, 2024, 9:10 PM
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When the ACC was founded, conferences were designed to group relatively close-geographic schools so that student-athletes could compete at similar-level schools without huge travel-costs, travel-time, and jet-lag. As the TV-money increased, the conferences started expanding geographically to draw more eyeballs.
If the ACC were starting with a blank slate today, then the ACC probably wouldn't take the 4 NC schools-- and DEFINITELY NOT Wake.
If Clemson and FSU can escape the ACC, UNC will also bolt for greener pastures. UNC would be pretty attractive to both the SEC & B1G.
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Re: I think Clemson would be more attractive to the B1G. Expand the footprint.
Mar 20, 2024, 8:16 AM
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It’s not about geography anymore.
Not in today’s world.
It’s about viewership.
Clemson has massive viewership. They are a national brand.
Any conference would want that.
Plain and simple.
Maybe after people hear this another thousand times, they’ll start to “get it”.
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Low viewership UMD, Rutgers, & UCLA say hello.
Mar 20, 2024, 12:33 PM
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It's viewership and media markets.
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Re: I think Clemson would be more attractive to the B1G. Expand the footprint.
Mar 19, 2024, 11:20 PM
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If you call that dump in Columbia a school, sure, but they are all Bama fans anyways. Clemson is a bigger and better brand with far more pedigree and both recently and historically we have been the best college in the state of South Carolina, AND we will always be better than the yard birds.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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If we have done this well without that SEC money and backing........I can only imagine when the Brinks trucks start showing up....
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 12:36 PM
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Here we go ladies & gentlemen
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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We have all known that the ACC stood for the Anti Clemson Conference ever since (and possibly before) the Tobacco Road homer (John Swofford) took command of the conference. Tournaments are held in the backyard of ACC Schools all the time, yet the ACC Baseball Tournament was moved away from Greenville, SC to Durham, NC because it was too much of a home field advantage for Clemson in SC.
Clemson is a Football School (among other sports played on dirt and grass) condemned to a basketball conference.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 12:38 PM
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...and where the basketball is even being overtaken by the "football conference"
We picked a fine time to leave you, Lucille
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Let's go boys....
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a bit surprised by this move, TBH.
But very happily surprised.
I think they/we(the powers that be at Clemson) know that this is about survival. The most likely outcome is in 10 years the ACC will be a mid-major or basketball only conference. If you care about football... you HAVE to get out or you won't have a program to rebuild in 2036.
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And awaaaaaaaaay we go***
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Here we go...
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Yep, wash up all the cloths, and pack up all the furniture bc we're getting ready to move to where the pay is much better to do the thing we have done for over a century, Go Tigers, enjoy the raise!!!
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
Mar 19, 2024, 4:32 PM
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Way to go Clemson. And to everyone enjoy the ride and what a ride it will be because we don’t exactly know where we are going.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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When the ACC Commish signed
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off on the new playoff payout scheme, the die was cast. There is absolutely no reason the ACC, as a power five conference, should accept a lesser percentage of the playoff revenue than other P5 conferences. The ACC leadership failed to uphold its fiduciary duty to the member schools. I’m glad we sued. GO TIGERS!!!
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Re: When the ACC Commish signed
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And Clemson is saying they can take their job and shove it up tobacco roads A$$!!!
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Re: When the ACC Commish signed
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Exactly! In what universe would Rutgers, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, Vanderbilt, UofSC, Mississippi State, Kentucky and Missouri expect to derive 50% more revenue than Clemson and FSU from a football playoff distribution??? Ain’t gonna happen.
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Re: When the ACC Commish signed
Mar 19, 2024, 9:17 PM
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ACC is a Power 5 conference in name only.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Let the games begin…
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About d@mn time...
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The old boys in NC have been scr#wing over Clemson for years. Beginning with almost all conference tournaments being held in NC. The pathetic TV rights deal. The NC old boy network has made billions of dollars from this conference. And when schools like UNCheat get caught nothing happens.
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Great News.***
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
Mar 19, 2024, 1:17 PM
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Finally
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Waiting for UNC to file suit next.***
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Re: Waiting for UNC to file suit next.***
Mar 19, 2024, 11:29 PM
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Something tells Mr it's coming sooner than later, and so is VT's lawsuit. When FSU, Clemson, UNC, VT, UVA, Miami, and NC State all file their lawsuits the ACC will fold.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
Mar 19, 2024, 1:38 PM
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Yes!!! No more Tobacco Road garbage!
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 1:50 PM
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I just took a break and thought that I would check Tigernet. This news was delivered by a silent assassin. Wow. I love the angle of the lawsuit too. Batten down the hatches. This is going to be fun to watch…
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Orange Blooded [3375]
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Tuck your boots in fellas
Mar 19, 2024, 1:53 PM
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B/c sh!t's fixing to get deep
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Re: Tuck your boots in fellas
Mar 19, 2024, 2:39 PM
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Right before Clemson blows it to H&LL and back in the face of the she she conference!!!
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CU Guru [1277]
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Maybe the coots will be willing to swap conferences with us
Mar 19, 2024, 1:56 PM
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since we all know that they could use a new start anyway and they are well over their head in the SEC
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Re: Maybe the coots will be willing to swap conferences with us
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Mar 19, 2024, 2:20 PM
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Sounds about right. 
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Re: The Coots need to be playing in Conference USA...
Mar 19, 2024, 7:07 PM
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They better stay away from the Southern Conference, the Citadel has beaten them twice. Might be better if they drop to Division II.
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We're not the first but we certainly won't be the last.***
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Mar 19, 2024, 2:22 PM
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
Mar 19, 2024, 2:44 PM
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YEEESSSSSS!!
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 2:45 PM
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Sounds like an exploratory effort in an attempt to force the ACC to make public the GOR agreement. It's hard to question a set of rules the ACC won't share with its members.
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LFG!***
Mar 19, 2024, 2:49 PM
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Happy to see our courage and leadership FINALLY on display! Go Tigers!***
Mar 19, 2024, 3:05 PM
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 3:33 PM
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Well, I think the timing is pretty clear. CFP negotiations probably set off some alarm bells about urgency with a look in in 2028.
Bottom line is Sec and Big 10 showed everyone they are no caretakers of the sport as they portended in February. Now they have locked in $8 million more per year for their teams than acc teams. That's in addition to TV rights imbalance. So, the sport will be forced to rend itself apart to get money parity.
And G5 is left in the dust.
Hope they don't forget who really pays the bills... The fans. I can go watch a lot of different sports.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
Mar 19, 2024, 3:34 PM
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It's all fine and dandy but with Clemson's negotiating history it would not surprise me if they go join the Conference USA. Remember Clemson signed that stupid agreement to begin with.
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Finally! F the ACC!***
Mar 19, 2024, 3:41 PM
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Orange Blooded [3730]
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And here we go
Mar 19, 2024, 3:50 PM
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
Mar 19, 2024, 3:59 PM
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It’s about time. Terrible agreement with a crappy conference. Let’s go!
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
Mar 19, 2024, 4:04 PM
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YESSSS!!! About time.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
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Mar 19, 2024, 4:10 PM
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Let’s f***ing go!!! Time to leave this backwards sh*tty basketball conference that’s not even good at basketball anymore
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I LOVE IT!***
Mar 19, 2024, 4:13 PM
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Re: I LOVE IT!***
Mar 19, 2024, 4:16 PM
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Liking the strategy so far but lets see how it plays out.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
Mar 19, 2024, 7:00 PM
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Is this what Dabo meant when he said "you better but stock in Clemson now"? Hmmm. Get on board the train. Let's go Tigers.
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Re: TNET: Clemson sues the Atlantic Coast Conference in initial move to explore exit options
Mar 19, 2024, 9:29 PM
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I would bet the entire farm that isn't what Dabo was referring to with that comment!!!
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