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75% of covid death had 4, yes ,4 or more
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Re: 75% of covid death had 4, yes ,4 or more
Jan 10, 2022, 8:30 AM
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Unfortunately a significant portions of Americans fall into those buckets because Americans are unhealthy fat #####.
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Hey british ######
Jan 10, 2022, 8:32 AM
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Re: Hey british ######
Jan 10, 2022, 8:37 AM
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Ain’t that the truth.
Brits aren’t far behind though.
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And still smoke like m'fers***
Jan 19, 2022, 12:21 PM
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that says a lot about our state of health here...scary
Jan 10, 2022, 9:13 AM
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but if I look at the list, and think of my immediate family...
Mom (82yo) - Type 2 Diabetes, hypertension, overweight, and (just recently) N-stage kidney disease
Brother 1 (62yo) - Overweight, type 2 diabetes,
Brother 2 (60yo) - smoker, mental health issues (depression), maybe hypertension
Brother 3 (59yo) overweight, former smoker, type 2 diabetes
this is why we are so cautious, still
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i agree, I keep my mom safe
Jan 10, 2022, 9:48 AM
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as well.
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I don't understand the surprise some people
Jan 11, 2022, 8:37 AM
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seem to be displaying at this. We've known this all along, right? Is this somehow contradictory to anything the CDC has said up until now?
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huh? This stat is basically saying. you basically have to be
Jan 11, 2022, 10:24 AM
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on your death bed to die from covid. Add in the numbers of the elderly and I'm guessing its 90% of the people that die from covid are elderly or have "4" or more comorbitities.
So no, 99.999% of the people dont know this at all. for the past 2 yrs, perfectly healthy people have been scared to death to leave their house. They wear 10 masks in their car alone. People lost their houses due to lockdowns. Millions of businesses were lost over this. How many died from suicided or substance abuse over this? How many kids were affected?
They lied about all of the covid numbers. 800k+ have not died from covid. That number is repeated over and over and over. They put people in a stage of fear over this ####
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Where do you get that the 800k number is wrong?
Jan 11, 2022, 11:16 AM
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You are also greatly exaggerating the statistic. "you basically have to be on your deathbed..." This stat is saying 25% have no comorbidities. That's a very large number. That's hundreds of thousands of people.
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Sorry, I read the stat wrong.
Jan 11, 2022, 11:17 AM
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I believe the quoted stat was 75% have 4 or more comorbidities. So I was wrong with what I said about 25%.
Having comorbidities also doesn't mean you are "on your deathbed", not remotely close. Most of us have at least one of them, I'm sure, and we're healthy.
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what part of 75% dont you get?
Jan 11, 2022, 11:25 AM
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add in the elderly to that stat, that may not have been already covered by that 4 or more stat, and its gotta be close to 90% are either elderly or have 4 or more comorb's. approx. Lets just call it 85% to be safe, adding in additional 10% for the elderly that have 3 or less comorb's.
So 85%(at least) that have died from covid, are at that age where you aint living too much longer and are not very strong, or you have so much wrong with you, that you have serious health problems.
Of course you are gonna gloom unto the deathbed. I was using that word to make a point without having to write a long as post like this. But you are reverting to your childlike state again where i have to explain every word to you like a child instead of figuring out the nuance of the post.
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I guess I don't get your point.
Jan 11, 2022, 11:27 AM
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So 75% of people, or more, were old, or have co-morbidities, etc. What's the point? I thought everyone already knew that...but you are saying a lot of people don't. OK, I guess they learned something then. They should have been listening all along.
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no one freakin knew that
Jan 11, 2022, 11:32 AM
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4 or more? 75%? no one knew that, at all.
Yes, it was said elderly and those that are sick are more at risk.
4 or more and 75%. No one at all knew that.
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I mean, I didn't know the specific statistic.
Jan 11, 2022, 11:34 AM
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But I knew that most of the people dying had other complications, because that's been very public all along. So when I saw the stat, it lined up with what I already perceived.
It doesn't sound that extreme to me. It seems you regard it as a rather extreme number.
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the stat is the whole point. Its shows how people who
Jan 11, 2022, 11:48 AM
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were healthy had almost no risk at all of dying. And we destroyed people's lives over this.
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But the statistic being true doesn't mean the policy was
Jan 11, 2022, 2:48 PM
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wrong. The whole point, all along, was to protect those who were most vulnerable. I, as a healthy young person, was and still am critical to doing that. For example, I didn't wear a mask because I was at risk of dying...I wore one because the person next to me might be at risk of dying. I didn't get vaccinated because I thought I would die if I didn't...I got vaccinated to reduce the amount of COVID going around, so it'd be less likely for my friend/family/neighbor to die.
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Yes, you protect those who need it
Jan 11, 2022, 3:06 PM
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Lock them down. Keep everything else open.
You know, like Florida did. My sick inlaws have protected themselves in Florida, b/c they are smart.
Neither of them has gotten sick. No one from their community has died from it(at least as of 3 months ago).
You protect those who need it. You don't put the entire country in lockdowns and ruin millions of lives.
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I think that's a strawman...
Jan 11, 2022, 3:12 PM
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At no point am I aware of the whole country going on lockdown, nor do I accept the statement that millions of lives were ruined by COVID policy.
I know I barely changed anything about my life because of COVID, except wearing a mask. Pretty much everything stayed open, just with some differences. There are some spots in the country who have had more restrictions, surely, and in many cases, I don't agree with those restrictions. But there has never been any sort of national lockdown.
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how many businesses went under?
Jan 11, 2022, 3:35 PM
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how many people lost their jobs?
How many people lost their homes?
dude, if you're not gonna be honest, that don't even respond.
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I don't know.
Jan 11, 2022, 3:40 PM
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I figure you could tell me.
What do you think I have not been honest about? I'm just stating my opinions. Are you saying I'm not actually telling you my true opinion?
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I also don't understand how you would "lock them down".
Jan 11, 2022, 3:13 PM
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Do you mean the government should have not allowed people of a certain age, or with certain health problems, to do things? How would that be executed and enforced? A weight limit for leaving your house? A blood sugar limit?
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I don't know what that means.***
Jan 11, 2022, 11:24 AM
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just lol***
Jan 11, 2022, 11:26 AM
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FDA/CDC/Admin
Jan 11, 2022, 11:27 AM
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are holding back drugs that we know (across the world) work in treatment of COVID. But too late now.
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That sounds like a bad idea.***
Jan 11, 2022, 11:27 AM
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holy cow. and you said you knew this stuff. lol***
Jan 11, 2022, 11:33 AM
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I mean, it sounds rather unlikely to me,
Jan 11, 2022, 11:36 AM
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but I didn't really have the energy to make a big deal of it in this thread, for which manac's post was really a non sequitir.
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And to boot. Don’t got to the hospital
Jan 11, 2022, 11:18 AM
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Until you can’t breathe. Then we will give you Remdesivir and you can just die a slow painful death and all alone to boot.
Let’s suppress the use of monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin and hydroxycloroquine.
We have far far more deaths than any other nation, but let’s not pay attention to that and just praise Fauci.
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I truly can't believe people have let people die
Jan 11, 2022, 11:29 AM
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knowing extremely safe treatments were out there that could've helped. Lets say it helped 5% of that fake 800k died number. Thats 40k people it couldve saved.
But this is what happens when you politicize health and science.
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or get vaccinated and decrease your chances of even ended up
Jan 11, 2022, 1:01 PM
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in hospital by....???
I mean, seriously, i can't figure why people would rather die on a hill standing up against vaccines and big pharm, but then want to take some treatment that was propped up by some folks on youtube.
how does one even decide which one is more 'wrong'? I feel like if the feds had been pushing for ivermectin and hydroxycloroquine, the everyone would have been would have been saying, "why are you tring to kill us all with horse dewormer???"" but instead...idk. I just don't get it.
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the "horse dewormer" thing is quite political
Jan 11, 2022, 1:11 PM
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when you look at countries that routinely use Hydroxy and Ivermectin for malaria, they have the lowest death rates. They are also not obese, so there are nuances, but to call it horse dewormer when it is routinely used in medical practice is obtuse.
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3time was not calling it horse dewormer herself..
Jan 11, 2022, 2:50 PM
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In fact, she was satirizing those who called it that.
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before the vaccine, how many people died needlessly
Jan 11, 2022, 2:51 PM
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because of political BS. I mean, it's really malpractice.
Doctors would lose their license for even suggesting using these medicines that were proven to help. All because of making medicine woke.
Again, if it helped 5% of the time, thats a lot of lives, no? And for medicine that is as harmless as it can get.
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That people completely ignore the advice of their own
Jan 11, 2022, 3:02 PM
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physician in lieu of something they've read on the internet is mind blowing to me.
Also, this whole controversy over hydroxycloroquine has made it very difficult for people like me who have taken it for years for autoimmune diseases. Probably going to have to switch to a switch to a less studied, more expensive drug because they are making it more difficult for my physician to prescribe it to me.
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