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So our deepest QB room ever has now lost
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So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 4:22 PM

our two year starter to transfer, a backup to transfer, and another backup to graduation.

Thankfully, we still have Cade. Vizzina will be here next year.

We are currently very thin at QB. Any QBs we are targeting who might be able to help us? Or are we just looking for a nice guy who can play backup and maybe be on our coaching staff one day?

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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 4:27 PM

I believe we are about to pick up a transfer, Paul Tyson. Not 100% but it looks good. Yes, he is definitely going to be in a back up/mentor role.


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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 4:35 PM

Honestly wish it was another position. As posted below, we're not that thin. Helms is good and probably will be qb2 to start spring.

Cade
Helms
Vizz
Trent
Will Taylor (alternate)
Portal (experience)

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Will Taylor is a nice change of pace, bit


Dec 15, 2022, 6:22 PM

He doesn't look like a #2 or maybe not even a #3 for next year.

I think Helms is #2 in the spring unless we pick up a transfer.

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Re: Will Taylor is a nice change of pace, bit


Dec 15, 2022, 7:35 PM

Yeah, that's why I put 2nd... but wasn't clear about I was listening them in. I agree with you.

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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 7:18 PM [ in reply to Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost ]


Honestly wish it was another position. As posted below, we're not that thin. Helms is good and probably will be qb2 to start spring.

Cade
Helms
Vizz
Trent
Will Taylor (alternate)
Portal (experience)



Honestly wish it was another position. As posted below, we're not that thin. Helms is good and probably will be qb2 to start spring.

Cade
Helms
Vizz
Trent
Will Taylor (alternate)
Portal (experience)


Don't forget Hunter Johnson...at least for the Bowl Game vs Tenn Volunteers.

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Hypothetically w/ Helms as the starter in 2021, we still go 10-3 ****


Dec 16, 2022, 5:05 AM [ in reply to Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost ]



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I read about him yesterday.


Dec 15, 2022, 4:36 PM [ in reply to Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost ]

He doesn’t seem to move the needle very much.

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Re: I read about him yesterday.


Dec 15, 2022, 5:00 PM


He doesn’t seem to move the needle very much.



So two 5*s and two 3*s is not sufficient for you?

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Well, Vizzina is now a 4-star.


Dec 15, 2022, 9:28 PM

But a 5-star and a 4-star should be a nice start, but I don’t feel very good about our depth after that.

I’m sure Dabo will tell us that all of our QBs are amazing and they can all win games for us, but with our track record of developing QBs being what it is I’d like to see more talent on our depth chart.

We had three 5-star QBs on our roster this year and ranked 55th in total offense and 74th in passing offense. That doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence in this coaching staff.

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Judge, I got no issue with you


Dec 16, 2022, 1:50 AM

I think you’re the Colin Cowherd of tnet
Make a divisive statement and let people go
It’s interesting

That said
At ONE position we have a 5 star and a 4 star backup

Could you imagine our basketball team with a 5 star and a 4 star playing with other 3 stars?

Yeh yeh, I watched Jennings

Point is, we’re in an envious position with our QB room next year. This was a swing and a miss brother.
We would have killed for this “thin” QB scenario 12 years ago and every year prior

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Re: Well, Vizzina is now a 4-star.


Dec 16, 2022, 10:23 AM [ in reply to Well, Vizzina is now a 4-star. ]


But a 5-star and a 4-star should be a nice start, but I don’t feel very good about our depth after that.

I’m sure Dabo will tell us that all of our QBs are amazing and they can all win games for us, but with our track record of developing QBs being what it is I’d like to see more talent on our depth chart.

We had three 5-star QBs on our roster this year and ranked 55th in total offense and 74th in passing offense. That doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence in this coaching staff.



Perhaps football is not your sport if you can’t understand the realities of a QB depth chart in the portal era. I can confirm about 98% of all teams would trade their QB room for ours in a skinny minute

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Re: I read about him yesterday.


Dec 15, 2022, 6:25 PM [ in reply to I read about him yesterday. ]

And yet, your passive aggressive post failed to say that. Shocker.

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Might this be your subconscious referencing CBB? ....


Dec 16, 2022, 5:26 AM [ in reply to I read about him yesterday. ]

in the unlikely eventuality of relying on the 3rd string QB to start a game; the season is likely ephFfed anyway-

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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 4:30 PM

We still have Will Taylor and he is no slouch. Although I think he'll follow baseball. I just hope he stays engaged with football as a receiver.

I'm assuming that's why we were hosting a portal qb today... not sure why. Our room was overcrowded anyway. Still have Hunter Helms and he's seasoned. Also Trent Pearman on the scout team.

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Ahh, I forgot about Helms.


Dec 15, 2022, 4:39 PM

Thanks for reminding me.

If we are counting scout team QBs or WRs who are good athletes as quality depth I find that concerning.

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Re: Ahh, I forgot about Helms.


Dec 15, 2022, 7:41 PM

It reminds me of our bench in men’s basketball that hasn’t contributed much this year. We are still looking for that sixth man off of the bench that can get us to the NIT and salvage Brownells job!

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Is there a good reason


Dec 15, 2022, 9:27 PM

Why to "salvage" Brownhell's job?

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It's okay, boo.


Dec 15, 2022, 4:31 PM

Dabo got this. Elite, top of the food chain championship coaches like him know their business.

Go Tigers.

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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 4:34 PM

Pretty similar to the situation when TL came in and took over, guys left in pre-season, KB left week 4.

Pretty sure we won the Natty that year.

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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 4:34 PM

Yea. We were too deep. Too many 5 stars. Guess we won’t be hearing that for a while now. Things certainly have a way of working themselves out don’t they?

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Can you ever have too many 5 stars?***


Dec 15, 2022, 4:43 PM



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Re: Can you ever have too many 5 stars?***


Dec 15, 2022, 4:51 PM

1 is apparently too many for the basketball team

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Re: Can you ever have too many 5 stars?***


Dec 15, 2022, 5:51 PM

Best Post of The Year IMHO!

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Re: Can you ever have too many 5 stars?***


Dec 15, 2022, 6:27 PM [ in reply to Re: Can you ever have too many 5 stars?*** ]

Perfect!

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Re: Can you ever have too many 5 stars?***


Dec 15, 2022, 6:02 PM [ in reply to Can you ever have too many 5 stars?*** ]

Let us know when Brad gets one.

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Re: Can you ever have too many 5 stars?***


Dec 15, 2022, 6:08 PM [ in reply to Can you ever have too many 5 stars?*** ]

Yes. As Dabo says - there’s only one ball.

5 star guys are going to want to play. If they are not at least next up most of them will find some place they can play.

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I think Hunter Helms is back next year too.


Dec 15, 2022, 4:36 PM

They are definitely green and not a lot of experience. I can't wait to see Cade next year and hopefully Vizzina gets some good playing time too.

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Thanks, I forgot about Helms.***


Dec 15, 2022, 4:43 PM



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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 4:40 PM

For the bowl game we still have Hunter Johnson, and we can worry about next season, next season. But personally, I don't look for something to stress over until it's time to worry it bc, that problem may never come up!!!

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I’m talking about next season.


Dec 15, 2022, 4:44 PM

Not concerned about the bowl game.

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Re: I’m talking about next season.


Dec 15, 2022, 6:32 PM

Hey, Clemgalalways® , you forgot to give this Judge Keller® post a TU.


#helping

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Re: I’m talking about next season.


Dec 15, 2022, 7:52 PM

Thank you 94. He's got a lot more TD ferrys than I do. I thought it was a fair question, especially given that he'd forgotten about hunter Helms.

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You forgot about…


Dec 15, 2022, 4:45 PM

Hunter Helms.

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Re: You forgot about…


Dec 15, 2022, 6:29 PM

Or conveniently left him off.

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Thanks, I wasn’t aware of that.***


Dec 15, 2022, 9:38 PM [ in reply to You forgot about… ]



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Didn't we have to move some short...


Dec 15, 2022, 4:45 PM

walk-on receiver to practice as a back-up QB a few years ago? Winpoh or something like that?

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Re: Didn't we have to move some short...


Dec 15, 2022, 4:48 PM

Oh... THIS guy-

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/dabo-swinney-isnt-joking-hunter-renfrow-is-now-a-clemson-quarterback/article_3eaca28a-c664-11e8-b5c0-e3940d0e6cc7.html


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Yes, and that is a good example of poor roster management.***


Dec 15, 2022, 9:39 PM [ in reply to Didn't we have to move some short... ]



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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 4:52 PM

If you are expecting a 4 or 5 star qb to come in and be 3rd string behind Cade and Viz, forget it. We've got two 5 stars, then a couple backups for 3rd and 4th string. I don't see the qb room being thin at all.

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No one who understands college football...


Dec 15, 2022, 5:10 PM

is concerned with our QB room as it currently stands for next season. And it's difficult to take a concerned poster seriously when said poster doesn't even know who is currently on the roster.




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Re: No one who understands college football...


Dec 15, 2022, 6:03 PM

Well, it was JK asking.

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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 9:19 PM [ in reply to Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost ]

Our QB1 will have 1 start under his belt and everyone behind him have virtually zero real game experience at the college level so I'd say we are definitely thin on experience across that entire room. We have a lot of talent but we have to get it developed and hope QB1 doesn't go down and that Viz is a quick study.

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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 11:51 PM [ in reply to Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost ]

Vizzina's a 4 Star, but point taken.

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What about Jimmy Greanbeans?


Dec 15, 2022, 4:52 PM

Oh crud, he went to the transfer portal also I see.

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Portal, NIL, and QBs


Dec 15, 2022, 5:07 PM

I was telling someone yesterday that Dabo may be ahead of the curve on QBs. Gone are the days of stockpiling talent at the QB position. The players that are able to make a difference are going to transfer. Clemson is actually loaded with QB talent next season and will need to split reps to keep Cade and Christopher both happy. Dabo is forward thinking by bringing HJ in for this season and hopefully the guy watching practice yesterday for next season.

Now I am not going to bring up the dead horse issue because that is another discussion.

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this is such a poor troll attempt ^^^


Dec 15, 2022, 6:03 PM

may want to go back to drawing bored -
or read a roster.



#soooooooooooooodumb

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Re: this is such a poor troll attempt ^^^


Dec 15, 2022, 6:11 PM

What do you expect? It’s Stretch. And most of his posts are too.

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Re: this is such a poor troll attempt ^^^


Dec 15, 2022, 7:54 PM [ in reply to this is such a poor troll attempt ^^^ ]

I think JK was looking at a basketball program?

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And another Jealousy Jab by JK


Dec 15, 2022, 6:23 PM

What a tool.

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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 6:48 PM

Judge, I admire your loyalty to Brad and the basketball program and appreciate your willingness to be critical of the football program where is appropriate, but your constant snide comments are getting old.

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Hey, JK...The way Mafah slung that ball left-handed to


Dec 15, 2022, 7:03 PM

Cade, plus with his Full Beast Mode running ability, I'd put him right up there under center without a flinch.

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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 7:51 PM

You are the biggest #### on this site. Go aaay.

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Always a serious question with a passive aggressive jab***


Dec 15, 2022, 9:21 PM



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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 15, 2022, 10:16 PM

QB room could Probly beat our Basketball team on the court

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Re: So our deepest QB room ever has now lost


Dec 16, 2022, 12:01 AM

Judge go away.

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