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I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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Charging due to the cold. Cars are sitting at charging stations dead and want except a charge. Government wants us to get EVs, not me. Sticking with gas powered. Guess they will have to wait until the weather gets warmer, hahaha.
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Yep EVs are a waste of space. Hydrogen fuel cells will be a real game changer in the long run. Normal fill up procedure but with all the benefits of an electric engine, best of both worlds
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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I agree. I’ve seen the working concept cars they have released overseas, and they have already converted some John Deere tractors to hydrogen power in China. The best part of these vehicles is that they create massive amounts of power, and produce small amounts of water as an emission.
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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Current technology requires a lot of electricity to get hydrogen from water. Fossil fuels will have to do until we make advancements in science or fire up more nuclear to get the power needed to make hydrogen.
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that was scuttled near Winnsboro- total waste of billions
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Yeah, Im rooting against Elon too. Needs to be brought down a peg or two.***
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Re: Yeah, Im rooting against Elon too. Needs to be brought down a peg or two.***
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I’m rooting for him to make the concept better! I don’t fault the guy for trying.
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Re: Yeah, Im rooting against Elon too. Needs to be brought down a peg or two.***
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I’ll give Elon this: I just got internet at my house via his company Starlink, and it is incredible. Even with Spectrum and all these other companies providing internet to rural areas it was unavailable to me. We built the house we wanted on some land we bought just outside of Barnwell, SC and have not been able to get a decent internet service since we moved in to the house in 2019. I kept checking the waiting period for Starlink and it went from a year wait in 2021 to 2 weeks recently. I put down the initial payment, and got the equipment in only 7 days. It took a little worn to run the cable under my house, but I knocked out all of it in about 15 min. I can stream 4K movies with absolutely ZERO lag/buffering.
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Re: Yeah, Im rooting against Elon too. Needs to be brought down a peg or two.***
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Elon is not perfect, but he is a great visionary who has accomplished some incredible things.
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I agree. I hope he continues his crusade for better technology and more
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long lasting energy pursuits that help humanity in the long run (according to him, and many others).
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Re: Yeah, Im rooting against Elon too. Needs to be brought down a peg or two.***
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Elon is not perfect, but he is a great visionary who has accomplished some incredible things.
....annnnnnd the only ppl agreeing with you are the liberal-left-females who are still butt-hurt that he took their largest echo-chamber away, right?
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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No way in this world. Charging station right outside of Lowe’s and I can go in and shop for a while and come back by and they are still there. Crazy. Technology needs to get a little better imo.
My biggest fear is blowing up. You hear about a few but wonder what that real number is. An EV bus just burst into flames somewhere (Europe?) I believe it was last week. Scary
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The facts don't seem to matter either. If you consider the total pollution through manufacturing and eventual disposals EVs are far less green than gasoline vehicles.
EV's failing when it is cold should not be surprising. What is the one thing that stops a gasoline vehicle from starting in severe cold? The danged battery. Sears Die hard batteries used to advertise how good their batteries stood up to extreme cold. It was a genuine selling point, because car batteries died all the time when it was super cold out.
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I now know four people personally who had their Tesla burn down their house.
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Just wait until you have to replace the battery in one. My coworker spent
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11k for a battery and his car is only 6 years old.
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If it's a Tesla, that's not a horrible tradeoff - technology continually updates
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as is, the structural design of the car rarely changes much so you're not 'missing out', and other than tires there shouldnt be much more to do to the car (as I understand it) with maintenance so that's like having a new car for $11k every 6 years. His whole concept is to make cars ubiquitous.
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It's nowhere near a tesla. It was a hyundai.***
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the whole point I think is to price out and frustrate individual car owners
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to get to the point we all are taking mass transit / public transportation. Its an environmentalists dream to remove the norm of car ownership from the equation. Won't happen overnight, it'll be a process but at some point average income earners won't be able to afford a car anymore. Davos has already floated these ideas as the way to the future.
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Yeah, early on comments by Elon and Tesla - while not dead on to this - was
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to build cars to be ubiquitous in many ways where they were just vessels for transportation no matter their ownership structure. Almost shared, autonomous, transportation.
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Re: the whole point I think is to price out and frustrate individual car owners
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There is good and bad in that. If you have studied our nation's infrastructure problems to any depth, one of the biggest problems we face as a nation is maintaining roadways. Fewer cars will mean much lower taxes.
It is not that we need to force people into EV's or into not buying cars. However, we could be smarter at developing cities so people could get around easily and safely without cars. Thereby making car's optional. If you have ever traveled to Munich Germany or Zurich Sw then you will have an idea of how nice life can be with a decent mass transit system.
Check out Strong Towns...Their ideas are growing in popularity because they not only make for areas that are economically sustainable to live in, they are better places to live. It is by no means some Progressive boondoggle. On the contrary, it argues to have government push better development so taxes will not be as high in the long run. https://www.strongtowns.org/
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Re: the whole point I think is to price out and frustrate individual car owners
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"...Fewer cars will mean much lower taxes..."
What made-up world do you live in????
The state of Michigan enacted a "mileage tax" after the "gas-tax" lost so much money due to ppl buying electric cars.
The federal gov't is here for two things: To start wars and to separate you from any money you've ever earned.
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Re: the whole point I think is to price out and frustrate individual car owners
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I live in the world of roads not being maintained due to lack of money...have you driven around SC lately? Did you not see the huge increase in taxes and registration costs that has not produced what they said it would? Have you driven from Georgia to SC or NC to SC and seen the immediate decline in the quality of the roads as soon as you cross the borders? They need more money...they always will need more money because the infrastructure cannot be sustained without huge tax increases yet to come.
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Re: the whole point I think is to price out and frustrate individual car owners
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If left up to the 'government', taxes would never go down. They view your money as their money. How else are they to grow the government, if not by spending your money better than you could? You would just waste it on things you wanted, rather than on things the governments thinks you need.
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Went for hike in winter and phone battery went from 100% to 0 in cold weather***
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Huh, Ive never had that happen and Ive skied many times at 0 degrees and below.
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And brought my phone out from my pockets and used it for extended periods without an issue.
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Re: Huh, Ive never had that happen and Ive skied many times at 0 degrees and below.
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Had mine "freeze" up because of heat - actually was smart enough to tell me why it would not function - told me to never leave it in my car again.
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uh-oh.
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cutigerbob® where are you?
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With EVs, its Tesla or bust. Elon's running away with the market
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Design, tech, supercharging stations. I wouldn't waste my money on any other make.
I do think he'll work out the issues with colder climates. Otherwise EVs will just have to be for us southerners. 
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EV's are for inner-city drones and WW obsessed with social media acceptance.....
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The Tesla truck is junk.
The Toyota Prius will guarantee you don't get laid for life.
The Chevy Volt was a massive DUD.
Most chargers take up to 45 mins to charge a car and that's AFTER you've waiting for the other guy to finish charging his.
And the best part.....
Drilling for oil leaves a (relatively) tiny hole in the earth. An active coal mine in South America is currently the size of 18 football fields and is deep enough for a 20 story apartment.
Sometime the stupidity of the human race is astounding.
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Re: EV's are for inner-city drones and WW obsessed with social media acceptance.....
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Look who's talking!!!
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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Chicago can let illegal aliens sleep in the dead cars.
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Not everyone in the government is pushing an EV agenda...
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Primarily just those who are receiving kickbacks from China.
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Yes the Chinese want something for their biden money
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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I rented a hybrid last fall and it was great. Round-trip 2 counties away (several hundred miles) and only had get 3/4 of a tank.
Hybrids could be a good way to conserve fuel and to reduce pollution without all of the infrastructure needed for EVs.
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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It always amazes me that people like the OP let politics dictate their views versus letting their views dictate their politics.
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Sounds like the entire Democratic party***
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I have a firefighter friend.
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He said that in winter it used to be fireplaces that caused all the house fires in winter, then the majority changed to space heater fires, and now there are more and more charging station fires in the winter.
He said that if it is a nicer neighborhood and the garage is the place of the ignition, it is always an EV charger which has caused the fire.
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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I just don’t get bashing the EV owners. Why can’t they drive whatever they want to drive.
I drive a Tesla and the misinformation about them is mind boggling. It’s not a political thing with me.
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Me too. I have a long commute and gas and maintenance was too $$
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SO I got a used model S.
I also usually work on my cars but since the Tesla rarely needs anything, I don't want to do maintenance on anything anymore.
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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I just don’t get bashing the EV owners. Why can’t they drive whatever they want to drive.
I drive a Tesla and the misinformation about them is mind boggling. It’s not a political thing with me.
And all the freedom loving people said, “Amen”.
It’s the Dumbocrats who are attempting to take our freedom of choice from us, forcing a product on us we don’t want, thereby making it political. How have you missed that, Glenno ?
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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best of luck with that. In ten years, you will not have many options other than to buy a used beater and pay 14.00 a gal at the pump. But hey, at least you do not have to worry about charging your car in Chicago when it is cold.
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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Only if we let left wing trash continue to get their way. They'll gladly have us paying double digits for gas and having only EVs as an option if we want to buy new. Morons.
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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I saw a TV ad for the new Jeep Wrangler 4Xe (electric and gas 4X4) so I checked it out online. You can turn a switch to run electric or turn to gas. When I pulled up the specs I was shocked. It gets 22 miles per charge, that's correct 22 miles. Why bother?
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Re: I find it funny with these EVs in Chicago not
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Here’s the thing; EVs have their place, but it should be a consumer driven choice, NOT government funded mandate.
This failure in cold weather is just totally ignored by the folks pushing this and we don’t need our country crippled every time it gets cold.
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