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Clemson Board Of Trustees got more than it asked for
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Clemson Board Of Trustees got more than it asked for


Sep 19, 2017, 1:06 PM

As you recall one of the Clemson Trustees asked Dabo during his interview if he could make Clemson like Michigan or Alabama, seen as elite programs. He said that instead he wanted everyone to want to be like Clemson.

Well folks I think Dabo has achieved another goal. I have seen so many posts on boards recently where they essentially are saying they wish they were like Clemson. Even the national media are beginning to realize we have cracked the code on Elite.

I for one am thankful and gladly attribute much of our success to Dabo being Dabo.

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Herman mentioned being like Clemson


Sep 19, 2017, 1:29 PM

in his first Texas presser

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Would love to see that clip. Incredible.***


Sep 19, 2017, 1:33 PM



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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Re: Herman mentioned being like Clemson


Sep 19, 2017, 3:05 PM [ in reply to Herman mentioned being like Clemson ]

Hermann and Meyer visited the year after losing to us in the Orange Bowl .
That's a classic model being ogled by the old girls they've replaced .

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DB23


Re: Clemson Board Of Trustees got more than it asked for


Sep 19, 2017, 1:33 PM

Does Clemson win a trophy for being considered 'elite'.

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no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Sep 19, 2017, 1:35 PM

you wouldn't understand

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Sep 19, 2017, 1:36 PM

You are missing the point. Some of you guys never stop talking about being considered elite and a'blueblood'. They only give trophies on a season basis and a program doesn't have to be considered elite to win it all.

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Yep. The #### floppers are elite BECAUSE you have no trophies.


Sep 19, 2017, 1:37 PM

Brilliant.

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"Anybody that says Coach Brownell is the best coach to come through Clemson is going to start an argument." -JP Hall


Re: Yep. The #### floppers are elite BECAUSE you have no trophies.


Oct 1, 2017, 8:55 PM

Elite is as elite does.
- gump

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Sep 19, 2017, 1:38 PM [ in reply to Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies ]

Clemson isn't considered "elite." Clemson IS elite because we win trophies on an annual basis. Major bowl games, conference titles, a national title. Every year.

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Sep 19, 2017, 1:41 PM

You obviously don't understand what 'every' means. Clemson has 1 natty since 1981 and 3 ACC titles since early 90s. That's not 'every' year, is it? I get you are a SuperFan but you obviously get carried away.

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Sep 19, 2017, 1:42 PM

I'd love to know which team you root for, because unless it's Alabama you don't have a leg to stand on.

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Sep 19, 2017, 1:44 PM

I am a Clemson grad. Most the people who attack me on here and assert that I am not a Clemson fan didn't even attend Clemson.

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Clemvegas = Marlborocountycoot


Sep 19, 2017, 2:09 PM

fno

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Funny. I've never met many trolls on here who were not an alum.


Sep 19, 2017, 2:38 PM [ in reply to Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies ]

Coincidence? I think not.

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Re: Funny. I've never met many trolls on here who were not an alum.


Sep 19, 2017, 2:39 PM

I think most of the obnoxious Clemson SuperFans on here did not actually attend Clemson. They are sidewalk fans who treat Clemson like a NFL team.

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CU81 here...


Sep 19, 2017, 4:31 PM [ in reply to Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies ]

.... let's see, rock defender, handfull of posts, pulse of 20.... hmmm.... if it acts like a chicken; clucks like a chicken; and smells like a chicken, it PROBABLY is a chicken... although, if it comes on tnet to troll a successful program, it's not a chicken - it's a coot.

hth

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Whatever choice(s) you make makes you. Choose wisely.


Re: CU81 here...


Sep 19, 2017, 4:39 PM

most of that is I didn't support firing Brownell and the 'correct' opinion on this forum if Brownell should be fired. You think for yourself on here you won't have a high pulse.

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Re: CU81 here...


Sep 19, 2017, 4:40 PM

Another part of it is I debated some liberals on some non-football topics and liberals like to downvote conservatives. #Triggered

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The obnoxious Auburn fan sitting behind me durring that game


Sep 19, 2017, 4:54 PM [ in reply to Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies ]

was a Clemson grad too. Being a graduate does not always equal being a fan. I am both. It appears that you are not.

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Re: The obnoxious Auburn fan sitting behind me durring that game


Sep 19, 2017, 5:38 PM

Ok, so who made you the decider of who the real fans are.

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Re: The obnoxious Auburn fan sitting behind me durring that game


Sep 19, 2017, 5:38 PM [ in reply to The obnoxious Auburn fan sitting behind me durring that game ]

I don't think people got to be like you , say things that you do, to be a Clemson fan.

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Sep 19, 2017, 3:09 PM [ in reply to Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies ]

Chickens can't stand on only one leg , but I see seagulls do it all the time so I have to assume , based on my observations ...that even a fish gut slurping flying rat is stronger than a Coot .


It's science to me.

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DB23


Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Sep 19, 2017, 3:12 PM

I don't think people who say things like 'coot' know much about science.

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I have RCT's published in science journals, coot


Sep 19, 2017, 3:53 PM

Present at 2-3 research symposiums per year. Just because I see you as a coot, it does not make me any less credible whenever it comes to the scientific method.

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poor ruffled feathers #### fan.....***


Sep 19, 2017, 1:45 PM [ in reply to Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies ]



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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Sep 19, 2017, 2:43 PM [ in reply to Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies ]

Elite means you consistently win double digit games, recruit at a high level, win championships, win multiple major bowls and consistently finish high in the final rankings for a period of at least 3-5 years. Sorry coot but Clemson can check off all the boxes. Only about three other schools can currently be considered elite.

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Oct 1, 2017, 8:51 PM [ in reply to Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies ]

Perhaps read what he wrote, coot. He said they win trophies every year. In each of the last six years they either won the conference, a bowl game (mostly major bowls), or National Championships. In the seventh year they are on pace to play for another National Championship.

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Oct 1, 2017, 9:36 PM

Another redneck sidewalk fan calling me, a Clemson alumni, a 'coot' because I said past trophies don't mean anything this season. Teams don't get a trophy this year for winning a trophy in past seasons.

Let me guess your response "You coot'.

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Oct 2, 2017, 5:55 AM

LOL I'm from New Jersey, so no I'm not a redneck you DB coot. Also you said NOTHING about past trophies meaning anything this season. You questioned the guy on his premise that Clemson is elite because they win a conference, bowl, or national championship trophy every year. Your retort that Clemson has only won a single national championship and 3 conference titles is an obvious sign that not only are you a coot troll, but your not even good at trolling. Is there anything that you coots do well? Pump gas? Can you even handle that?

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Oct 2, 2017, 8:47 PM

Jersey trash are some of the biggest rednecks in the country. lol

Clemson hasn't won a bowl, conference championship, or national championship 'every' year. You don't appear to understand what the word every means. History didn't start a few years ago.

'coot coot coot coot' redneck sidewalk fan who didn't attend Clemson

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Oct 2, 2017, 10:40 PM

I have a BS and Masters from Clemson you hillbilly coot.

When calling out rednecks in the future perhaps reference this map. Notice that NJ ranks 50th in redneck population. Now get back to your single wide and practice your whittling and banjo playing before you go back to work for the early shift at the gas station.



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He didn't say we win national or conference titles every


Oct 2, 2017, 12:55 AM [ in reply to Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies ]

Year. He said we, as in Clemson, win trophies every year, which we do. I know your coots have already given up on winning anything 6 games into the season again, but why come on here and spew that nitpicking, trolling bs? Best of luck winning the worst conference half in the FBS.

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Re: He didn't say we win national or conference titles every


Oct 2, 2017, 8:49 PM

coot coot coot coot

What is the difference b/t u and a 'coot' if you think about SC all the time.

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Sep 19, 2017, 1:41 PM [ in reply to Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies ]

So what exactly is your point? Are you trying to say that best shouldn't be the standard, that we should do just enough to win but nothing more?

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Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies


Sep 19, 2017, 1:47 PM

I'm saying programs don't get trophies for being elite. I think MSU could win the natty this year and they aren't considered elite. The best teams change from season to season.

I also don't understand why you feel the need to repeat slogans like 'best is the standard'. lol

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You really think MSU could win the natty??


Sep 19, 2017, 1:50 PM

Why? Because they beat a once again overrated ls-who team??

LOLOL

your feathers are showing...

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Re: You really think MSU could win the natty??


Sep 19, 2017, 1:51 PM

So beating down LSU is proof that they can win the natty? If there is a chance they can get to the playoffs, then they can win it all.

Do you think there are any good teams in the country other than Clemson and I assume Alabama?

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Re: You really think MSU could win the natty??


Sep 19, 2017, 1:52 PM

Meant to say, beatinng down LSU is proof that they can't win the natty?

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I never said they had a chance....you did. and I can only


Sep 19, 2017, 1:54 PM [ in reply to Re: You really think MSU could win the natty?? ]

assume you're basing that on an unranked msu beating a hapless, overrated lsu this past weekend. Which is laughable.

I do think there are other good teams in the nation. But msu has a 0.000000000001% chance of getting past BAMA to make the playoffs.

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Re: I never said they had a chance....you did. and I can only


Sep 19, 2017, 1:56 PM

That's what many people said about Clemson last year. You are only basing that on past history. That's my point, past seasons has no relevance to the current season.

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Link to where I said past performance has anything to do


Sep 19, 2017, 1:59 PM

with this year?

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Re: Link to where I said past performance has anything to do


Sep 19, 2017, 2:01 PM

If you are talking about being an elite program, you are focused on past seasons.

Hard to believe you went to Clemson.

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The convo about msu being a nc contender has nothing to


Sep 19, 2017, 2:04 PM

do with Clemson being an elite program.

Your reading comprehension skills suck.

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Re: Link to where I said past performance has anything to do


Sep 19, 2017, 2:05 PM [ in reply to Re: Link to where I said past performance has anything to do ]

Hard to believe you're a Clemson fan who is hating that others are saying we are elite.

Enjoy it.

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Re: Link to where I said past performance has anything to do


Sep 19, 2017, 2:07 PM

My point is you guys don't seem to actually talk about football games, it is just this constant bragging about CLemson 'being elite'. I remember SC fans being the same way, and the dumb redneck LSU, AUburn, Florida, UGA fans on SEC rant always talking about how they elite even though they been mediocre in recent years.

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Has Clemson been mediocre or have we been elite?***


Sep 19, 2017, 2:10 PM



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Re: Has Clemson been mediocre or have we been elite?***


Sep 19, 2017, 2:12 PM

So if Clemson struggles in future years, is it no longer elite? Let's say it has a great season, a bad season, a mediocre season the next 3 seasons. Is it elite? Or does it have great seasons, bad seasons, and mediocre seasons?

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That didn't answer my question did it?


Sep 19, 2017, 2:15 PM

Elite programs sustain success year after year(Like Clemson has).

Elite programs do not have consecutive bad/mediocre seasons. HTH

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Re: That didn't answer my question did it?


Sep 19, 2017, 2:16 PM

Ok so if CLemson loses to Va tech and some other teams this year, how will you feel about all your posts about Clemson is elite? Again, you are focused on past seasons. DOesn't have anything to do with this season.

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Re: That didn't answer my question did it?


Sep 19, 2017, 2:19 PM

Clemson is elite, so it won't do what you're scenario presents.

Therefore, your question is invalid.

Edit: Also, by being elite over the recent years that has greatly helped our coaches to recruit higher talent (which is continuing this year) which increases the probability of successful seasons moving forward.

^^That is why people want their teams to be elite.

Message was edited by: tiggerz04®


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Re: That didn't answer my question did it?


Sep 19, 2017, 2:22 PM

I agree that Clemson has it going right now but do you really think Clemson is never going to have mediocre and bad seasons again? lol That's my point, every program has up and down periods so there is no point is labeling programs elite.

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So you don't think there are tiers based on a programs


Sep 19, 2017, 2:24 PM

success or lack thereof?

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Re: That didn't answer my question did it?


Sep 19, 2017, 2:31 PM [ in reply to Re: That didn't answer my question did it? ]

No, teams won't always have elite seasons, however, right now we are at the elite level. Florida was elite 10 years ago, but they've went down hill after a coach left. LSU was sort of elite back in the day when they had a monstrous defense.

Those programs sustained that success over a period of time that they were elite. We are currently at a period of time where we are an elite program. How long will the period last? No one knows, but I've got a pretty good feeling that as long as Dabo is our coach we will have something special here.

Another aspect that hasn't been mentioned: facilities. Right now we have elite level facilities, one of the tops in the nation. That also has helped in getting us where we are today. With that added in are you able to call Clemson elite as of right now?

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Deer lowered......you still haven't answered my question....


Sep 19, 2017, 2:20 PM [ in reply to Re: That didn't answer my question did it? ]

Being an elite program plays into every season. Elite programs get elite players and elite facilities....again, it's not a hard concept to understand.

I don't think we'll lose this year. And the only legit chance of that happening would be in the playoffs to another great team.

Also, your lack of reading comprehension is shining bright yet again....feel free to re-read my previous post which answers your question...

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Re: Deer lowered......you still haven't answered my question....


Sep 19, 2017, 2:24 PM

It is spelled 'Dear'. Deer refers to the animal. Pretty sure a Clemson grad can spell dear correctly. Crazy how often I see that word misspelled on this website.

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Thank you....***


Sep 19, 2017, 2:25 PM





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"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Re: Deer lowered......you still haven't answered my question....


Sep 19, 2017, 2:30 PM [ in reply to Re: Deer lowered......you still haven't answered my question.... ]

You probably need to go back and edit your incorrect grammar before you speak about someone's spelling.

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Re: Deer lowered......you still haven't answered my question....


Sep 19, 2017, 2:35 PM

Everybody has typos on forums like this but it is obvious numerous people on this forum don't know how to spell dear. That's not a typo. He claimed he went to Clemson and claims that I did not, despite no evidence of that.

It annoys me when fans of Alabama, LSU and other programs claim their program is elite. I remember how annoyed it made when 'coot' fans claimed their program was elite and how their program 'reloads' after losing good players. When I see people bragging about how elite their program is, I want to see that program lose games. Obviously that becomes a problem when it is Clemson fans bragging about my team. lol

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Re: Deer lowered......you still haven't answered my question....


Sep 19, 2017, 2:41 PM

You're correct, it was not a typo. He intentionally spelled deer. I don't think you've been on here long enough to understand that, but take things with a grade of slaw so you don't get land blasted.

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Re: Deer lowered......you still haven't answered my question....


Sep 19, 2017, 2:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Deer lowered......you still haven't answered my question.... ]

Key words on this site are intentionally misspelled to draw out the coots that correct them,
and you just took the bait, Coot!

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Re: Link to where I said past performance has anything to do


Sep 19, 2017, 2:11 PM [ in reply to Re: Link to where I said past performance has anything to do ]

Unlike the other teams in your list, Clemson is defending champions and have been to the last TWO championship games.

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Re: Link to where I said past performance has anything to do


Sep 19, 2017, 2:33 PM

Going to the last two national championship games is something only two, dare I say it, elite programs can say.

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he's just lashing out because his team just lost their


Sep 19, 2017, 2:08 PM [ in reply to Re: Link to where I said past performance has anything to do ]

4th straight to a perennial bottom dweller.

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Re: he's just lashing out because his team just lost their


Sep 19, 2017, 2:11 PM

Given you never stop talking about SC< you might as well be a 'coot' fan. Your whole world seems to revolve around SC athletics. Get a life.

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link to my world revolving around the coots?


Sep 19, 2017, 2:12 PM

I just call it as I see it and it's pretty clear that you love the ####(s).

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Re: link to my world revolving around the coots?


Sep 19, 2017, 2:14 PM

Ok, why don't you quote me saying anything that indicates that I'm a Gamecock fan.

I've talked about things specific to Clemson that no Gamecock fan would have any interest in, like Clemson House being demolished.

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Your hatred of Clemson being called 'Elite' is a pretty big


Sep 19, 2017, 2:15 PM

indicator....

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Re: Your hatred of Clemson being called 'Elite' is a pretty big


Sep 19, 2017, 2:17 PM

You are such a homer. My point, does Clemson get a trophy for being considered an elite program? If not, why do you guys constantly chant Clemson is elite? Why do you need to label programs blueblood or not?

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I've answered your question coot. you just don't like the


Sep 19, 2017, 2:18 PM

answer.

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Re: I've answered your question coot. you just don't like the


Sep 19, 2017, 2:20 PM

If you were not allowed to post the word coot on here or accuse people of being coots, you wouldn't have anything to post. I don't understand why anybody would be obsessed with SC.

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You've shown your true colors. Just admit to it....***


Sep 19, 2017, 2:22 PM



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Re: Your hatred of Clemson being called 'Elite' is a pretty big


Sep 19, 2017, 2:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Your hatred of Clemson being called 'Elite' is a pretty big ]

Alabama is considered the Super BlueBlood and little ol Clemson beat them last year. So being the no. 1 blueblood didn't win Bama the game so what is the point in calling them a blueblood.

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Re: Your hatred of Clemson being called 'Elite' is a pretty big


Sep 19, 2017, 2:21 PM

Did they win the year before? Are they ranked #1 now? Do they have yet another strong recruiting class coming in, helped by their program's status no doubt?

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Re: I never said they had a chance....you did. and I can only


Sep 19, 2017, 2:04 PM [ in reply to Re: I never said they had a chance....you did. and I can only ]

What? Who was saying that last year?

Because the majority of people were predicting a rematch between us and Bama to begin the year.

It honestly sounds like you're just arguing for arguments sake. Elite teams win championships. "Elite" may not carry over from season to season for most teams, but there aren't wild card teams that come out of no where to win. Look at the teams that have won in the playoff era so far: Ohio State, Alabama, and Clemson.

Two of those three teams are squarely on track to get back to the playoffs and if Ohio State beats Penn State and Michigan this year, wins the B1G then you can bet they will be back in. Hell, they got in last year because they were thought to be "elite" by the majority of the country.

You're bringing a knife to a gun fight on this one.

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Re: I never said they had a chance....you did. and I can only


Oct 1, 2017, 11:35 AM [ in reply to Re: I never said they had a chance....you did. and I can only ]

Deer ClemVegas Still think miss st is a NC contender? LOLOLOLOL

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Re: I never said they had a chance....you did. and I can only


Oct 1, 2017, 4:51 PM

My opinions are based on what happens each week. Most seasons, dominating LSU like that would mean MSU is at least a darkhorse contender. Nobody could have predicted MSU would get blown out two weeks in a row after that.

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bandwagoners gonna bandwagon LOLOLOLOL


Oct 1, 2017, 6:38 PM

You still think BAMA lost to LS-who before making the playoffs?

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Re: bandwagoners gonna bandwagon LOLOLOLOL


Oct 1, 2017, 8:16 PM

Why do you brown nose Alabama on here? I don't think that I ever said LSU is going to beat Bama. I said I think Bama could lose 2 games this year.

What is my bandwagon? You make a lot of dumb assertions.

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Your reading comprehension is absolutely terrible....


Oct 1, 2017, 9:04 PM

Where did I say anything about the ls-who/BAMA game this year? I’m referring to this idiotic statement you made and then doubled down on.

“Bama shouldn't have made playoffs that year after losing to LSU and losing their division,”

You jumped on that MSU bandwagon. Try to keep up....

Oh and I don’t brown nose BAMA. I’ve been a BAMA fan since I was 3. That’s been stated on here many times....

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Re: Your reading comprehension is absolutely terrible....


Oct 1, 2017, 9:33 PM

YOu are so dumb. I was talking about the Alabama LSU title game season a few years ago, not this season.

I didn't jump on any bandwagon. I said MSU looks pretty good after the LSU beatdown.

I'd be ok if you just stuck with Alabama and checked out of the CLemson fanbase. You are an obnoxious homer.

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oh I know which game you were referring to...and your lack


Oct 1, 2017, 10:05 PM

Of reading comprehension is shining through yet again....you can’t even comprehend what you, yourself wrote.

That game had absolutely zero to do with the playoffs....yet you doubled down when I called you out on it...

Keep telling yourself that, you jumped on that MSU bandwagon like a fat kid on a piece of cake....

As far as being a Clemson fan is concerned....I’m not just a fan, I’m an alum. I’ve got a vested interest in our fine university, do you? Based on what I’ve seen on here, I highly doubt it.

And BTW.....Clemson is “Elite” and keeps proving that every week.

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Sep 19, 2017, 1:56 PM [ in reply to I never said they had a chance....you did. and I can only ]

Crazy how much you suck up to Alabama too. I think you might be a 'coot' given your Bama suckup.

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LOL. I've been a BAMA fan since I was 3. I just happened to


Sep 19, 2017, 1:58 PM

choose to go to college at Clemson.

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When the best teams DON'T change from season to season, they are considered elite.***


Sep 19, 2017, 1:58 PM [ in reply to Re: no, we are considered elite because we win trophies ]



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Re: When the best teams DON'T change from season to season, they are considered elite.***


Sep 19, 2017, 2:00 PM

Clemson hasn't been the best team from season to season across the history of football, neither has Alabama orother programs you call elite. It changes from season to season.

I believe Pitt has like 5 trophies. G Tech has won at least won title.

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Are you so dense that you can't discern that there's a


Sep 19, 2017, 2:02 PM

difference between an elite program and an elite season?

Teams that are at or near the top year after year are elite programs....it's not a hard concept to understand.

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Sep 19, 2017, 2:04 PM

Ok, again, do teams get a trophy for being an 'elite program'?

You guys are always bragging about CLemson being an elite program, I'm just trying to understand what the payoff is.

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Do you want to see the payoff....go look at the talent on


Sep 19, 2017, 2:05 PM

your coots team and then compare that to Clemson.

Being an elite program year in and year out makes sure we maintain our place at/near the top.

If you don't understand that, then you are an idiot who doesn't understand collegiate sports....

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I love how he/she/it decided to pass over this one....***


Sep 19, 2017, 2:59 PM



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Re: I love how he/she/it decided to pass over this one....***


Sep 19, 2017, 3:02 PM

There are several replies that counter every argument "they" had that "they" did not respond to. Instead they said the same thing over and over again and continued to make no sense each time.

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Re: I love how he/she/it decided to pass over this one....***


Sep 19, 2017, 3:04 PM

Says the hostile guy who thought that I meant a rules violation is illegal from a law standpoint. lol You are the logical one.

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Re: I love how he/she/it decided to pass over this one....***


Sep 19, 2017, 3:06 PM

Says the guy who wants to win trophies but not if we have to build nice facilities and if the media has to talk nice about us.

You also said, and I quote, "It takes the magic away from it." In no way shape or form did us building the facilities take away from the night we won the National Championship.

I bet you want a really nice car, but don't want to pay for it as well right? It would take the magic away?

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Sep 19, 2017, 2:07 PM [ in reply to Re: Are you so dense that you can't discern that there's a ]

Well right now we are an elite program and we got a trophy last season, so, yeah?

With the start of the playoff format elite teams are invited to the playoffs more often than not as well.

The payoff of being an elite program is: more spotlight on your team so more recruits see, more talk in the national media so more recruits see, and an increased brand so that our university flourishes (and more recruits see).

Now that I've answered that, why, as a Clemson fan, are you so against us being considered elite?

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God almighty.


Sep 19, 2017, 2:08 PM [ in reply to Re: Are you so dense that you can't discern that there's a ]

You are an obtuse Cockfan, or a total ######. I can't tell which.

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Re: God almighty.


Sep 19, 2017, 2:09 PM

Yes, I'm a 'coot' because I think it is dumb and pointless to label programs 'elite'.

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Re: God almighty.


Sep 19, 2017, 2:11 PM

*Jealous that your team isn't elite.

FTFY this helps

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That's a mighty strange thing argue with everyone about


Sep 19, 2017, 2:13 PM [ in reply to Re: God almighty. ]

...coot

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I wouldnt say we are a Blue Blood yet