Replies: 23
| visibility 1,050
|
Orange Blooded [2203]
TigerPulse: 84%
Posts: 4333
Joined: 9/10/18
|
I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 10:02 AM
|
|
What are your thoughts on Dabo's Christian beliefs and how it is a large part of the Clemson football program?
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [111631]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 73780
Joined: 9/10/03
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 10:31 AM
|
|
As long as he is winning nobody inside this program cares.
But my own personal observations are that it has made for a much tighter knit team with excellent character and a love of one another. that can only help on and off the filed.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [48078]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 49059
Joined: 5/16/04
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 10:39 AM
|
|
As long as he is winning games and doing it in the classy fashion he is, I don't care what fiction he believes in. It doesn't matter. I want him to be happy as well. He is doing great. He is turning out great people as well. He is a gift to society. Way better than I will ever be.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1381]
TigerPulse: 83%
Posts: 2089
Joined: 4/23/15
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 1:00 PM
|
|
As long as he is winning games and doing it in the classy fashion he is, I don't care what fiction he believes in. It doesn't matter. I want him to be happy as well. He is doing great. He is turning out great people as well. He is a gift to society. Way better than I will ever be.
BINGO!^
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4365]
TigerPulse: 80%
Posts: 8370
Joined: 1/4/17
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 10:47 AM
|
|
OC,
A couple of things:
1. Could we rephrase the anti-christian to non-religious. I am not anti-christ. I just don't think he exists. It hard to be AGAINST something that does not exist. I am not anti-unicorn either.
2. I have no problem with Dabo's beliefs. I don't even have a problem with him being r=fairly public about it. But i do worry that, in his role as a leader of young men, that it would be easy for him (& his staff) to illegally influence his younger players and staff. As an agent of the state government, coaches and teachers have to be careful not to proselytize to their influence-able students.
I worry that Christianity is SO prevalent (and so heartfelt) among the staff and some players, that it would be easy to overstep that line and not be aware of it. As a teacher, I have had to actively work to remain neutral in my interactions with students.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2203]
TigerPulse: 84%
Posts: 4333
Joined: 9/10/18
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 11:05 AM
|
|
1. I did not come up with the anti-Christ another user did and I am following suit.
2. Dabo says he will express his feeling but will not push it on anyone.
3. My personal believe is God has given Dabo a gift. He has over came a lot in his life that none of us has had to do, well me personally anyway. 4. All the thing most of y'all have said why you don't believe is thing that I struggled with when I was a young man but when it came down to it you have to believe and its called faith. No one has disproved anything that was written in the bible. I can tell you they will not.
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21579]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13921
Joined: 9/7/02
|
4. "No one has disproved anything from the bible.
Nov 18, 2020, 1:39 PM
|
|
Wowzers soooo let's start with something basic.....
Best scientific evidence against the historical accuracy of the bible? Irrefutable DNA evidence that there were NEVER only two humans alive at any point in time. And likewise, there is zero support for a simultaneous genetic bottleneck of all animal species, including humans, about 4,000 years ago due to being restricted to a single wooden boat.
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [12592]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6312
Joined: 12/24/15
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 11:36 AM
[ in reply to Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too ] |
|
I don't think you are saying that Jesus Christ never existed? He is obviously not walking on Earth now, but irrespective of biblical accounts, Jesus Christ existed. He claimed he was essentially God. He did not recant that claim and was executed. So a person proclaimed to many people of his time that he was God revealed through man. What are we then to conclude? Was he a liar? Was he a lunatic? Was he actually who he said he was? Could a person falsely claim to be God and yet be a good person?
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [12592]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6312
Joined: 12/24/15
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 11:39 AM
|
|
A interesting quick read if anyone is interested is Mere Christianity by CS Lewis. I think it is thought provoking.
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [17918]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8941
Joined: 12/24/96
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 12:05 PM
|
|
could see its influence it your first response!
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21579]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13921
Joined: 9/7/02
|
Exactly.
Nov 18, 2020, 1:41 PM
|
|
And I would recommend to him reading any stories predating Jesus that...ya know....followed the exact story line of Jesus.
That story was told many times before him.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [57156]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 39697
Joined: 11/12/04
|
As described by the prophets and Isaiah in particular.
Nov 18, 2020, 2:49 PM
|
|
Many times, going all the way back to Genesis.
Oh, that’s not what you meant?
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21579]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13921
Joined: 9/7/02
|
Genesis isn't the end all be all of the beginning of time
Nov 18, 2020, 2:58 PM
|
|
there chief.
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21579]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13921
Joined: 9/7/02
|
Re: As described by the prophets and Isaiah in particular.
Nov 18, 2020, 3:04 PM
[ in reply to As described by the prophets and Isaiah in particular. ] |
|
Buddha, Krishna, Odysseus, Romulus, Dionysus, Heracles, Glycon, Zoroaster, Attis of Phrygia, and Horus all pre-date Jesus but have the same story.
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [17918]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8941
Joined: 12/24/96
|
Re: As described by the prophets and Isaiah in particular.
Nov 18, 2020, 6:45 PM
|
|
Wait, they were all scourged, ridiculed and mocked, and, finally, crucified so they could save mankind from their sin?
Please don't misunderstand my first comment. I was simply commenting that I could see that the person had read Mere Christianity by the questions that were posed. I was identifying with them, not standing apart from them.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7208]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9441
Joined: 12/18/13
|
Trouble no one about their religion; respect others in their
Nov 18, 2020, 11:08 AM
|
|
views, and demand that they respect yours." - CT
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [42196]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 38272
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 11:22 AM
|
|
I have no issue with his religious beliefs, and as long as it's not something forced on our players or used to discriminate against any players (and it doesn't appear to be at all), there's no issue. And if it works as a recruiting tool (which apparently it does), have at it.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2203]
TigerPulse: 84%
Posts: 4333
Joined: 9/10/18
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 11:46 AM
|
|
You are not trying to say Dabo is fake I hope.
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21579]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13921
Joined: 9/7/02
|
Dabo is not fake...he really believes it.
Nov 18, 2020, 1:42 PM
|
|
But we get really good recruits because of it......I cheer for whatever is good for Clemson Football. So GO JESUS!
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2203]
TigerPulse: 84%
Posts: 4333
Joined: 9/10/18
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [42196]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 38272
Joined: 11/30/98
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2203]
TigerPulse: 84%
Posts: 4333
Joined: 9/10/18
|
Re: Nope.***
Nov 18, 2020, 3:23 PM
|
|
Ok, just making sure.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3074]
TigerPulse: 58%
Posts: 3562
Joined: 11/24/17
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 11:56 AM
|
|
Heard an interesting take regarding that on local sports talk radio here in Columbia. Dabo is open with his faith. Muschamp, upon his hiring in 2016, fired the SC team chaplain. Maybe there was more to it than reported, but as far as a parent might view this, which coach would you rather you kid play for?
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2203]
TigerPulse: 84%
Posts: 4333
Joined: 9/10/18
|
Re: I have another ? for the anti-Christ crowd too
Nov 18, 2020, 12:25 PM
|
|
Dabo 100 %
|
|
|
|
Replies: 23
| visibility 1,050
|
|
|