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If we beat Baylor
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Mar 24, 2024, 12:48 AM
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I support keeping Brownell until contract comes up. I will not complain about him next year.
I will accept that as a success
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Re: If we beat Baylor
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Mar 24, 2024, 6:48 AM
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Grant to us the serenity of mind to accept that which cannot be changed; courage to change that which can be changed, and wisdom to know the one from the other
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Did what he was asked to do
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Mar 24, 2024, 6:56 AM
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Make the tournament. Won a game in the tournament. 45 victories in the last two seasons and the Lunatic Fringe wants a firing. I see a contract extension and continued success. Clemson has a good coach. Thank God TNet doesn’t manage the basketball program.
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Re: Did what he was asked to do
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Mar 24, 2024, 8:31 AM
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There does seem to be a great deal of angst here about a coach that has your team in the 2nd round of the tourny. I wish UGA could find a coach who could just make the tourny.
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Re: Did what he was asked to do
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Mar 24, 2024, 5:07 PM
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UGA is going to come for Brad, bank it!
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Re: Did what he was asked to do
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Mar 24, 2024, 9:59 AM
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Before the season we all were in agreement or at least I stated with the team we had it should be Sweet Sixteen or bust. I stand by that and if achieved then I am for keeping him until contract is up, with the incentive for continued success to extend it.
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Re: Did what he was asked to do
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Mar 24, 2024, 10:04 AM
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Who said that? I did not.
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Re: Did what he was asked to do
Mar 24, 2024, 1:22 PM
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This scock wasn’t active when that discussion was had.
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Re: Did what he was asked to do
Mar 24, 2024, 2:34 PM
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I stated it several times. With last years success and people returning plus the portal additions, then Sweet Sixteen is a reasonable assumption.
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I feel the same, AND I hope we beat Baylor....
Mar 24, 2024, 1:04 PM
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...next year might be a tough one after Hall leaves.
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Re: I feel the same, AND I hope we beat Baylor....
Mar 24, 2024, 2:36 PM
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PACIFIC BEACH TIGER®. I agree that next year will be a tough year. Not expecting as much but to be in top half of ACC is plausible
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Re: Did what he was asked to do
Mar 24, 2024, 12:55 PM
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Would you please post a link where that goal and that goal alone was explicitly stated by anyone from Clemson’s AD? I won’t hold my breath.
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It doesnt exist. Funny that Cobb / jstone said the exact same
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Mar 24, 2024, 3:29 PM
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incorrect thing.
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He has already earned another year at this point, win or lose today.
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Mar 24, 2024, 8:10 AM
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And no, I am NOT on the Brownell Bandwagon, but I CAN face reality when I see it! Hoping for good things today and going forward next year.
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Re: Did what he was asked to do***
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Mar 24, 2024, 10:16 AM
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Look at these names that have already punched their ticket to the S16 and some that play today.
Gonzaga
UNC
Duke
Purdue
UConn
Arizona
Creighton
Baylor
They expect to be here and to not make it is a huge disappointment. Our name historically does not belong in that list. We should be celebrating like New Year's Eve. Win or lose, we've overachieved. I hope we build on it.
I also hope there aren't a bunch of meltdown diatribes about how horrible CBB is. Kansas, Dayton and Mich St have great coaches and lost. UNC was down double digits and went on a 23-3 run. Please don't tell me you think Hubert Davis had a whole lot to do with that.
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Re: If we beat Baylor
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Mar 24, 2024, 10:04 AM
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That's so big of you. I'm sure the team appreciates your conditional support.
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Re: If we beat Baylor
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Mar 24, 2024, 12:33 PM
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We won 20 games and ncaa game and a game at Chapel Hill. Anything else is a plus
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you must be from Ohio
Mar 24, 2024, 12:46 PM
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jk
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Re: If we beat Baylor
Mar 24, 2024, 12:54 PM
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The problem is that won’t be the choice the AD makes. If he beats Baylor he will be bumped back to at least 5 years and probably escalating to 4 million a year over that period. The buyout will become, at minimum, half the remaining balance. Which would make him untouchable for 3-4 more seasons.
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So, what you're hoping to see tonight is...
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Mar 24, 2024, 1:01 PM
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What, exactly?
BTW, it's not 'if', it's 'when' Clemson beats Baylor.
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Re: So, what you're hoping to see tonight is...
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Mar 24, 2024, 1:07 PM
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I want us to win but I can simultaneously hope that, no matter how this season ends, Brownell is not our coach next year. They are not irreconcilable. I believe Clemson has everything necessary to field a championship caliber basketball program on a consistent basis. The Brownell Bros, many by literal admission, believe Clemson can’t and that what we have is the best we’ll ever get.
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Weve already had better: Ellis, Purnell, and Barnes.
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Mar 24, 2024, 2:41 PM
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Shouldn’t be a stretch to think that we could find another.
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Re: Weve already had better: Ellis, Purnell, and Barnes.
Mar 24, 2024, 2:58 PM
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I agree with that. As a whole, 90% of our sports teams are better or are new and competing at higher levels. Should make us more attractive than when we hired Brownell.
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Re: Weve already had better: Ellis, Purnell, and Barnes.
Mar 24, 2024, 5:26 PM
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Athletic department revenue was just over $50 million when Brad was hired. It was $195 million last year. There is no comparison in where we were.
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Re: Weve already had better: Ellis, Purnell, and Barnes.
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Mar 24, 2024, 4:59 PM
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And that’s where the creative math on their part comes in keeps the rhetoric going in endless circles. If an outsider or casual TNetter takes JK or Cobbox at face value, the last 14 years represent a landmark achievement in the sad history that is Clemson basketball and we should all genuflect. The reality is, he makes the tourney a lower percentage than Ellis, Barnes, Shyatt and Purnell combined. Those are the only coaches to have a 64 team tourney. Brad even had the benefit of a 68 team field none of the have - it’s 36% to 28.5%. If you take out Shyatt it’s 45% to 28.5%. His win Friday was heralded as unprecedented by JK with attacks by the usual cast of characters to any pushback. Ellis, Barnes, and Purnell combined for 3 Round of 64 wins over 20 years or 15%. Brad now stands at 2 over 14 or 14%.
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How were they better than Brownell?
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Mar 25, 2024, 12:55 AM
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Brad has more NCAA Tournament appearances than those guys, more NCAA Tournament wins, a better NCAA Tournament winning percentage, and more Sweet 16 appearances.
Oh and he is also our winningest coach and has the best ACC winning percentage.
And don’t forget highest graduation rate, and no NCAA probation or forfeiting wins.
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28.5% is less than 36%
Mar 26, 2024, 1:50 PM
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no matter how you spin it.
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the BOT seems to feels the same way...They probably didn't like getting jilted
Mar 25, 2024, 12:18 AM
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by Will Wade either when he leveraged a possible offer behind the scenes into a contract extension for himself
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Re: If we beat Baylor
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Mar 24, 2024, 5:05 PM
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Took the tigers on the ML like I did vs NM…. Let’s go!
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