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Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:08 PM
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What’s the chance we make it? I know we don’t have the best record but 2 top 5 wins has to look good on the resume?
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Lack of quality wins definitely won't be what holds us back.***
Feb 15, 2020, 6:09 PM
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:10 PM
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Looks a lot better now.
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:13 PM
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Would have to win out and at least play in the ACCCG
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:13 PM
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NIT
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:16 PM
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Outside of winning the ACC - T
Zero
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All-In [25008]
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if only we were in the big ten
Feb 15, 2020, 6:18 PM
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Then 5-9 in conference would be good enough
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:21 PM
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I think if we get to 18 wins, including ACCT, and beat FSU, we are in.
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:25 PM
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I think so too. If not that exact scenario something as good.
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:34 PM
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We need to win out prior to ACC tourney ... And still no guarantee.. If you believe ESPN FPI ... there’s about 4% chance we win out..
So not zero chance.....but
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:42 PM
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Under your logic. Clemson would have 3 TOP TEN WINS. Many great RPI wins. Injuries in November and transfer appeal messes. A 12-8 acc record. 20% at worst. Anmir Simms missing ND will be considered
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Legend [19697]
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What transfer appeal mess? Honor?
Feb 15, 2020, 7:00 PM
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He was never going to receive a hardship playing 500 miles from home
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as long as we get to 18 we have a shot. We need the
Feb 15, 2020, 6:37 PM
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smaller conference champions to win their conference tournaments, few upsets.
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:35 PM
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Zero chance of making the NCAA tournament unless we win the ACC tournament.
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We are 7th in ACC standings. Two wins over top 5 teams
Feb 15, 2020, 6:40 PM
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We need to finish real strong, but it is not that dire.
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:42 PM
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20-13 with 5 top ten wins (you'd have to win qrt and semi finals) would most definatelty have you in lol.
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 7:01 PM
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You might be right but I think that's a little pessimistic.
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 7:37 PM
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Only 8 teams in 40 years have made the tournament as an AT LARGE Teams with 14 losses. 14 losses would be losing FSU and one game in the tourney and winning 5/6 down the stretch. Even winning 5.6 and 2 in the ACCT makes Clemson 20-14....not going to happen and still not good enough to make the tournament.
Only 19 teams in 40 years have made the tournament as an AT LARGE with 13 LOSSES.
It just doesn't happen very often and Clemson's resume is nowhere close to what it takes.
The NET ranking is 84 after today (needs to be Top 40 to be even remotely safe) The RPI is 89. Winning out would put Clemson between 43 and 57.
2-6 against Quad 1 teams 7 -10 against Quad 1 and 2
Nonconference record 6-4 record with an SOS of 151.
The ACC is way down this year.
18-14 as someone posted is borderline NIT these days, not NCAA, that is just silly posting.
Clemson needs the ACC title, everything else is just not understanding what it takes to make the tourney these days.
The committee will not care that the team was young, dealing with transfer issues, had injuries (everyone has had injuries) or beat UNC for the first time.
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We won 20 games last year, were .500 in the ACC, and had a NET of 34
Feb 15, 2020, 10:53 PM
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and we still didn’t get in. I thought we deserved it last year, but I’m not on the selection committee.
The committee highly valued quality wins last year, seemingly more than they valued their own metric (NET). We didn’t have two top 5 wins last year like we do this year, but I’m afraid some of our losses this year will be our downfall.
It would be interesting to see what the committee would do with us if we finish the regular season 17-13 (11-9). That would mean we’ve won 6 of our last 7 ACC games, and would probably be 5th in the ACC. I still don’t think that would be enough though, despite us being one of the hottest teams in the country with an impressive finish to the season.
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:36 PM
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19 wins. Must win out(FSU and no stupid losses is imperative) and win ACCT game.
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 6:56 PM
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Have to finish strong, beat FSU, get a couple wins in the ACC tourney. It’s not impossible but they can’t afford to lay an egg anywhere else.
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When we lost to Yale at home, I heard people saying they were a tourney team...
Feb 15, 2020, 7:13 PM
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And a good loss.
So we got that going for us!
This team can make it to the NIT, and I think that will make for a good season considering how things started.
Until we can play 2 COMPLETE HALVES against FSU, that game will be a loss. FSU is really good so no shame in that. But with a FSU loss, you got to win out to get in the tourney. We aren’t the traditional basketball power and don’t have the “prestige” other teams had. Others will get the nod over us if we make it to the bubble. This team will have to win the ACCT to get in.
~JKB
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Slim and none...***
Feb 15, 2020, 10:07 PM
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Re: Chance of making tournament?
Feb 15, 2020, 10:18 PM
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We basically have to rifle off a unbelievable winning streak to have a shot. 5-0 to end the season and then a moderately deep run ion the tourney with at least one knock-off. It ain't happening BUT then again, they keep surprising me. Go TIGERS!
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Win out and have a good showing in the ACC tourney
Feb 15, 2020, 11:10 PM
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A big difference I see in this team is the leader Amir, then the vastly improved 3 pt. shooting which T. O. predicted that is was contagious: Since Hemenway has come back from injury, his 3 pt. shooting has been off the chart. Teammates see is and watch his style and mimic - ergo! Also, in practice, I am sure he shares his technique with his teammates. GO TIGERS!
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