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Campus Update: A new witness comes forward in Tucker Hipps' case
Aug 13, 2015, 8:44 AM
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Re: Campus Update: A new witness comes forward in Tucker Hipps' case
Aug 13, 2015, 8:57 AM
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This makes me sick reading it. At least the family may have some closure when everything comes to light.
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Re: Campus Update: A new witness comes forward in Tucker Hipps' case
Aug 13, 2015, 9:01 AM
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I've never understood this and just don't get it. How could you simply wait and not go looking for him or try to save him? Unbelievable. What a tragedy. God Bless his family.
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Re: Campus Update: A new witness comes forward in Tucker Hipps' case
Aug 13, 2015, 10:26 AM
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It just goes to show that those people were not his friends. I realize it's a slim chance but what if he was simply knocked unconscious and subsequently drowned? If they had taken quick action it could have saved his life.
It's just an overall sad ending to a young life that didn't have to be.
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When you pay for friends, they're usually not your friends***
Aug 13, 2015, 10:40 AM
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What he said ^***
Aug 13, 2015, 11:36 AM
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If true, 2nd degree murder charges and many years in
Aug 13, 2015, 2:15 PM
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prison are warranted. Any normal person would have immediately called 911 and ran down to help.
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I was in a fraternity at Clemson in the late 80's...
Aug 13, 2015, 10:21 AM
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we did some stupid and silly things but never did we try to hurt anyone, do anything dangerous, nor do anything illegal. I just don't get it. I know the fraternities do some good things but these types of incidents seem to occur more frequently today.
My nephew will move in this weekend to begin his freshman year at Clemson and I'm advising him to avoid the Greek system and get involved with other organizations.
It's just not worth the risk.
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Re: I was in a fraternity at Clemson in the late 80's...
Aug 13, 2015, 11:51 AM
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The "Greek system" ought to be shut down completely. It's senseless.
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Thank God there was no underage drinking or smoking
Aug 13, 2015, 2:17 PM
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weed in the 80's, well the rest of us were, but evidently the frats took the high road. Well except for the girl that fell off the balcony of the frat house.
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Yeah, I remember that...
Aug 13, 2015, 3:42 PM
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She fell off the ledge on the ATO house trying to get into a locked room through the window... at least that's the story I heard. That was on my birthday, 1989 I think? I was downtown celebrating that night when the news hit.
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Could someone please explain??...
Aug 13, 2015, 10:48 AM
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Is the Hipps family claiming the university knew about the "accident"??...condoned it??? tried to cover up information??....or is the university a deep pocket the lawyers are trying to get to??
I'm not sure I see how Clemson is guilty of complicity in this---but I'm not sure of all the details...TIA
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pretty much based on failure to prevent it
Aug 13, 2015, 11:15 AM
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the lawsuits' claims against CU are based on allegations that CU knew or should have know that the fraternity was putting kids in danger.
the suit claims that the frat broke CU rules and policies...
and claims that CU failed to enforce the rules and policies
if you click on the first lawsuit link in this article, the claims against CU are on page 15 of the complaint, page 20 of the pdf.
http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/28653826/tucker-hipps-family-files-lawsuit-against-fraternity-university
there's no doubt that CU is the only deep pocket in the suit... unless the local or national fraternity had a good insurance policy - which is likely for the national group
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mangled that a bit
Aug 13, 2015, 1:07 PM
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... CU knew of should have known...
CU is the only obvious deep pocket, but it's possible/likely that the national frat has an insurance policy
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negligence
Aug 13, 2015, 12:59 PM
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Clemson has a strict anti-hazing policy, but it seems like the hazing (greek-wide, not just this fraternity) has continued with little let-up. If Clemson's going to put the policy in place, it needs to enforce it.
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Clemson sanctions each fraternity to exist on campus.
Aug 13, 2015, 1:26 PM
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By formally recognizing these organizations, fraternities are essentially an extension of the University.
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Re: Campus Update: A new witness comes forward in Tucker Hipps' case
Aug 13, 2015, 12:36 PM
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I find it cowardly that nobody had the decency to speak out when this happened. Very disgusting and I hope those who could have spoken the truth then will have to face responsibility for it.
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occurs to me that said witness must have
Aug 13, 2015, 12:43 PM
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just graduated and is now relocating to Michigan or somewhere. Probably afraid to talk while he still lived at the frat house, but now he's clear of the idiots, he can speak freely.
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Said witness was there when it happened and knows he's at
Aug 13, 2015, 12:50 PM
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fault for not acting as well. He's cut some kind of deal...
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One wonders
Aug 13, 2015, 1:02 PM
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If the new witness was one of the people the Hipps sued. If so, it appears that the suit was effective.
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One also wonders
Aug 13, 2015, 1:05 PM
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if the witness (through his attorney) has spoken with law enforcement/prosecutors in search of a deal?
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Re: that one is a negative
Aug 14, 2015, 9:40 AM
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The new witness's story doesn't really make sense to me. How do you go from catching the railing by your arms to falling head first? How would any witness have seen him end up head first or hit his head on the rocks if it was dark outside?
I'm not saying the statement is incorrect, but it certainly raises as many questions as it answers.
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exactly
Aug 14, 2015, 10:39 AM
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among the questions: gotta wonder why the solicitor's office and law enforcement agencies don't seem to give the alleged witness claims much value
having the solicitor use that word - 'alleged' - when describing the witness brings up more questions
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Re: Campus Update: A new witness comes forward in Tucker Hipps' case
Aug 13, 2015, 2:07 PM
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fry them!!!
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I said on here a long time ago, that somebody knows
Aug 14, 2015, 1:04 AM
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what really happened that morning, and someday his conscience would cause him to come forward.
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Re: I said on here a long time ago, that somebody knows
Aug 14, 2015, 9:12 AM
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Solicitor says they have talked to new witness and it will not bring charges....
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