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What did Clowney prove...from an outsiders view
Aug 30, 2013, 11:13 AM
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Clowney proved he is human. He proved he gets tired. He also proved that one player can control the opposition from the off season until the final whistle. The entire UNC offense was geared to run from Clowney and to wear him down. That worked...but what doesn't look good for opponents down the line...he proved he is not the only defensive player South Carolina has. They still dominated the hurry up offense without their most dominating player. The run from Clowney or wear him down will not win you the game. This team is much more than just Clowney. This is not smack, this is fact. Good luck with Georgia.....now insert Alabama, Rudy, and other insults....I will see you guys next week after your Georgia game.
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This post won't go well
Aug 30, 2013, 11:14 AM
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Most on here are taking last night's lack of sacks as a moral victory for Clemson.
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Orange Blooded [3710]
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Heres a post for both of you
Aug 30, 2013, 11:18 AM
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ManBoy and ClownBoy, all ESPN HYPE just like ManBoys Internet Girlfriend!
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110%er [5249]
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I think y'all miss what the main point is
Aug 30, 2013, 11:20 AM
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even outside of Clemson fans (Unless a crapload of twitter posts were ALL from Clemson fans), he did not live up to the hype he got all off season. That's the main point. Am I glad he looked winded? Idgaf really, there's a whole season till he plays us. And the excuses of 'well, he affected them cause they game planned for him' - no duh, you think they also didn't gameplan without him there? I saw many plays where he was in the thick of things anyways. If Boyd or Murray has only 2 TDs tomorrow, can I say "Well, they just covered us well"?
UNC lost the game. Renner overthrew passes. South Carolina's offense looked better than expected against a young and struggling UNC defense.
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110%er [5093]
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Boyd threw for 2 or fewer TDs in 6 games last season
Aug 30, 2013, 11:50 AM
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Including in what was arguably his best performance vs LSU.
Anyone expecting Clowney to have multiple sacks in each game jut lent understand the sport. Even if Clowneyn doesn't win the heisman doesn't change the fact he is the best player in college football and will be the first overall pick in the NFL draft.
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110%er [5249]
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Boyd had 3 TDs, actually, but threw for 2, yes.
Aug 30, 2013, 11:58 AM
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You won't hear me saying he's not a great player, but he sure didn't look like his hype yesterday, is what I mean. Will he be the first draft pick? We'll see. Not saying it isn't likely, but NFL drafts don't always work that way. EJ Manuel as first QB? Dwayne Allen won the John Mackey, and was the 2nd TE drafted.
And you've stated my point. Anyone expecting Clowney to have multiple sacks a game is dumb. Now, do I think he should have had more tackles? Yes. Do I think he looked winded for saying he was in the best shape of his life? Yes. But it's easy to excuse a lack of defensive production with a lack of opportunity than it is to excuse a lack of offensive production with "They didn't give him a chance to tackle" No way, shocking. But every team is going to do that, and I'm sure better offensive lines than UNC will do exactly the same to him, probably next week.
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Did you watch the game?
Aug 30, 2013, 12:05 PM
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If so, how can you argue it wasn't a lack of opportunity. UNC didn't just drop back and hang around in the pocket and dare Clowney to get past their LT.
They moved Renner around and went the opposite direction of clowney on almost every snap. When Clowney got close Renner got rid of the ball immediately.
To say he had no impact in the game is just being biased or showing an ignorance in understandingthe game.
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All-TigerNet [11478]
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How about
Aug 30, 2013, 12:11 PM
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the two times he had Renner wrapped up and couldn't get him down? Was that because of UNC's amazing gameplan also?
Just admit that he had a bad game.
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110%er [5093]
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Can you direct me to the plays he had him "wrapped up"
Aug 30, 2013, 12:14 PM
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I would be glad to review them and see if he truly had a blown tackle.
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Re: Can you direct me to the plays he had him "wrapped up"
Aug 30, 2013, 12:26 PM
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I remember one of the last drive I believe. It was right when the announcers were talking about how he shouldn't be in the game anymore because of the risk of injury.
I think the other was in the 3rd quarter but I didn't mark the spot in my mind.
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Did you watch the game either?
Aug 30, 2013, 12:13 PM
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I saw a good many plays when they threw a screen or ran to the opposite side of the line from him when he just pulled up and stopped. Effort was not there after the 1st quarter. Even the anouncers started to bash him about it. Open your eyes, your offense played well, your defense did enough against a sluggish opposing O, clowney was out of shape and lacked effort for the second coming that he's supposed to be
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I said it's easier to excuse it. Did you read my post?
Aug 30, 2013, 12:14 PM
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I still think he should have had more tackles, but they game planned for him. That's what teams do! People on here said Sammy wasn't good when he had a down game. Okay, they planned for him, so he wasn't open and Nuk was. Is that enough? And they lined Clowney up both sides of the ball. I saw tunnel screen toward him and runs up the middle.
He got a lot of hype. He looked tired when he shouldn't have. He took plays off for the opening home-game of the season. He said he was in the best shape of his life, and he was noticeable tired. No, not just by Clemson fans. That's my main point.
And the QB got rid of the ball when a D lineman got near him? Oh man, that's new.
So if a player doesn't have a good game, can I just say they game-planned for him?
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You stated they game planned against him in your first
Aug 30, 2013, 12:19 PM
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sentence. Then in your last line you argue he just had a bad game.
That doesn't make sense.
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I'm saying everyone has and will plan for him
Aug 30, 2013, 12:23 PM
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you're using as to why he had a bad game. I'm saying of course they did, but I don't think that's why he had a bad game. With all the hype he had, the "unblockable" comments, the flipping sled comments, you'd think no game-plan would stop him.
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And there we have it
Aug 30, 2013, 12:44 PM
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He only had a "bad" game because you are holding him to an unrealistic standard.
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According you, he only had a bad game cause UNC
Aug 30, 2013, 12:45 PM
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has the magical formula that no one else figured out.
and yes, for a Hiesman contender, I think 3 tackles, none for loss, isn't a great game.
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Also, I'm not holding him to 3 sacks a game
Aug 30, 2013, 12:50 PM
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I think that's dumb. It's what the media made him to be though, and he himself said he was in the best shape of his life.
So if you don't think he had a bad game, then surely you don't think he can play each game that way and win the Heisman (Or any award)?
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I guess it is easier to make up your reality
Aug 30, 2013, 12:57 PM
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Last year ECU held him without a sack. And UNC won't be the last to prevent him from getting a sack.
Doesn't change the fact he's the best player in college football.
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110%er [5249]
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Maybe he is, but yesterday didn't say that to me
Aug 30, 2013, 1:03 PM
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Are you choosing to ignore him being tired, yet being in the best shape of his life?
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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outside of 1 hit, that is 2 consecutive games he was sub-par
Aug 30, 2013, 1:32 PM
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explain that one, in your best clowney man-love way. he's good, no more ,no less. he isn't the best de even in the last couple years, no matter what you try to say, or esecpn tries to spin, well, until next year when doo-doo is in the nfl and espn will have another 2nd coming.
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The difference between a good player and a great player
Aug 30, 2013, 12:27 PM
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Is making plays when they are given to you, and making plays when they aren't given to you.
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Unlike a fine wine, you have not improved with age....
Aug 30, 2013, 11:27 AM
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You're obviously still a complete dumba$$ but thanks for re-confirming the obvious.
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no, the ones i see here taking shots are mocking the
Aug 30, 2013, 11:31 AM
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preseason hype followed by hurst stoning him.
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Re: What did Clowney prove...from an outsiders view
Aug 30, 2013, 11:15 AM
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They didn't dominate the offense. Yes they won, but that entire defense was pretty worn out by the time 4th quarter came around. Plus factor in the blown opportunities from UNC, like the muffed punt and tripping on the one yard line on 4th, and I wouldn't say it was domination.
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Re: What did Clowney prove...from an outsiders view
Aug 30, 2013, 11:16 AM
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"Outsiders view" lol god you are pathetic. I thought you said you weren't posting here anymore?
Not only are you too ashamed of USC to get a USC handle but you have also been proven to be full of #### on this one.
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Are you a Coots fan?
Aug 30, 2013, 11:17 AM
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Just asking...
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yes. i'll answer for him.***
Aug 30, 2013, 11:29 AM
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Re: Are you a Coots fan?
Aug 30, 2013, 12:01 PM
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Heck no, I think Clowney is a great player but I am neither his fan nor a South Carolina fan. I appreciate good football and like it or not South Carolina has a good football team. To say otherwise makes your loses to them seem larger. You lost to a very good team so let it be said and move on. We lost to a great Alabama team....
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Re: Are you a Coots fan?
Aug 30, 2013, 12:08 PM
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Thats right you are a Former ND Baseball player.... oh wait that wasnt true either.
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Re: Are you a Coots fan?
Aug 30, 2013, 12:23 PM
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I have my degree and my memorabilia from my playing days and I have two Clemson alumni ( one in '87 the other in '89 )with degrees in engineering working for me. I am just fine thank you. I am still going with them to the Florida State game so maybe you can meet us there. They are season ticket holders and tailgate....in a lot... I forget which one. We are leaving for Richmond Va. at 1:00 so see you next week....
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So you lied about the baseball thing huh?
Aug 30, 2013, 1:36 PM
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Me thinks you're a liar, and a bad one at that.
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Re: What did Clowney prove...from an outsiders view
Aug 30, 2013, 11:18 AM
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he proved that smoking weed all summer affects his stamina.
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Re: What did Clowney prove...from an outsiders view
Aug 30, 2013, 11:19 AM
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I disagree. The UNC gameplan worked great and would have been more effective if they could have got out of their own way. There were plenty of reasons that USUC won the game and an imposing defense was not one. Fumbed punts and missed tackles were the biggest reasons. A few questionable offense calls running Renner and his inaccuracy for any pass longer than 10 yards also contributed. USUC will face better offenses and defenses this year that will take better advantage of their opportunities.
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Re: What did Clowney prove...from an outsiders view
Aug 30, 2013, 11:27 AM
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UNC will not be held to 10 point and 200 or so yds total offense the rest of the season
The fast paced offense wore down a very good defense in some terrible heat
This all bodes well for Clemson given they have more talent than UNC
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Orange Blooded [2507]
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UNC isn't a fast paced offense but they are no huddle
Aug 30, 2013, 11:36 AM
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Their pace yesterday was very slow actually compared to more other teams that run the spread.
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I didn't really think that either team looked...
Aug 30, 2013, 11:39 AM
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prepared to play. USC more from a conditioning standpoint, UNC more from an execution standpoint. Renner is a quality passer but otherwise struggles running an offense. UNC's defense is just not very good. USC clearly was the better team, but a better more prepared team would have wasted a tired defense. SCU under Spurrier has never really looked good for the first game so I'm not sure it means much.
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Re: I didn't really think that either team looked...
Aug 30, 2013, 12:06 PM
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It was over 100 degrees on the field and high humidity. Neither team is likely to face those conditions the rest of the season. You can't judge either team in those extremes. You can....but it's not fair. I think your game with Georgia will not have the same effect because of lower expected temps. I think they are calling for thunderstorms though.
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You sure do defend c0cks a lot for claiming you're not a
Aug 30, 2013, 1:39 PM
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####, ####. You should try harder to make it less obvious.
Pathetic lies begin in 4..3..2..
Oh wait, didn't you say were never going to post here again? Was that a lie too? Better question - are you even capable of telling the truth?
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you have got to be joking. i have been trying to give you
Aug 30, 2013, 1:39 PM
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the benefit of doubt when you get landblasted here on t-net. however, with that last comment, i now realize the error of my ways! you are a d.a.! it's that hot in the south, on the field at gametime, quite often, you can even add a few degrees if you play on turf.
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Not impressive that the pro-SEC announcers were using gassed
Aug 30, 2013, 11:43 AM
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to describe the SC defense in the FIRST quarter. If you are impressed...SMH.
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Orange Blooded [2455]
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Renner is not good, their WRs aren't deep, run game stunk
Aug 30, 2013, 11:43 AM
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UGA won't have that problem, nor will we. We're also a bit bigger/stronger than UNC, and have a lot more talent and experience on both sides of the ball.
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Bama wouldn't have Rudy.
Aug 30, 2013, 11:48 AM
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It proved another offense would make Clown a NO factor***
Aug 30, 2013, 1:34 PM
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