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A thought about Juwan Howard.
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A thought about Juwan Howard.


Feb 27, 2022, 2:10 PM

Put this here because I see others posts about hoops. Alos put it here because it applies to all sports and also applies to our overall culture in America.

This is as much about our culture as it is about basketball. That's why I put it here.

In a "normal" society you would expect coaches to restrain players when frustration boils into anger which might lead to violence. You wouldn't expect players to have to restrain coaches.

Who is the adult on the team?

https://247sports.com/college/michigan/LongFormArticle/Michigan-basketball-Media-talks-Juwan-Howard-punishment-in-aftermath-of-Wisconsin-brawl-183214220/#183214220_4

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Feb 27, 2022, 2:13 PM

It still amazes me the jerk was not fired. Pretty sad that Michigan wants someone like Howard to mentor young men.

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Feb 27, 2022, 2:15 PM

The history of the Big Ten is filled with out of control coaches...

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Feb 27, 2022, 2:21 PM

Woody, Bo, and Bob Knight say hi

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Mar 1, 2022, 3:06 PM

and they don't even crack the top spots... mostly because they are not affiliated with the sex offender registry.

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Feb 28, 2022, 1:55 AM [ in reply to Re: A thought about Juwan Howard. ]

If he was white, he would have been fired-

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Feb 28, 2022, 8:07 PM

If he was white he would have been charged and called a racist facist

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Feb 28, 2022, 10:16 AM [ in reply to Re: A thought about Juwan Howard. ]

Everyone knows why he was not fired

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Just a terrible role model. Wisky coach shouldnt


Feb 27, 2022, 2:40 PM

Have grabbed him and called him a “jive turkey” but if you have even an ounce of class you handle it differently. Glad you had Bobby and we have Dabo to guide us on stuff like that.

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Feb 27, 2022, 3:10 PM

Thug mentality is in all sports.

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Feb 27, 2022, 3:20 PM

I was wrong I would have bet he would have been fired. He will mess up again unfortunately. It’s tough but you have to find it in yourself to walk away. Does not make you weak but smart imo.

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Feb 27, 2022, 3:34 PM

Except he attempted to walk away and ignore the situation, the Wisconsin coach grabbed his hands and stepped in his way. Doesn’t excuse his later reaction, but he still tried to walk away initially. I don’t know about anyone else but it would be a bad idea for any grown man to grab any part of me and impede my path. Especially if I’m already angry. If I swing first, I should be held accountable for my actions. That doesn’t mean another man was right to put his hands on me.

I’m not arguing he’s a good coach or person. I don’t know the man and I honestly don’t care, but let’s not place all of the blame on him for this scenario. All of the coaches were in the wrong here.

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Mar 1, 2022, 12:44 PM

But he slapped at the Asst Coach who didn’t touch him at all

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This highlights a cultural divide in America.


Feb 27, 2022, 3:22 PM

There is one part of America, of which I'm part, that sees Howard's behavior as totally inexcusable, with no mitigating factors that make it acceptable or understandable on any level. Period. Nothing that happened that day in any way justified his taking a swing at (physically attacking) another person. We realize that this kind of angry, violent outburst has no place in a civilized society, especially by men who are supposed to be setting an example for young, impressionable young men. Case closed.

Then there are those who seem to think that if a man "puts his hands on" another man, a physical assault is not only understandable, but highly recommended. It seems to be some kind of code of manhood based on some juvenile, comic book macho mindset, that in some circles, males never grow out of. It seems to me that this is a teaching moment, and those in positions of responsibility and influence (like Juwan Howard himself) need to emphasize that this kind of thinking is bullshot, that it is childlike and dangerous, and will not be tolerated, and if you think this way, you are a cottam idiot and need to shut up.

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Re: This highlights a cultural divide in America.


Feb 27, 2022, 3:38 PM

I've got grandkids boys and girls. How am I supposed to help teach them right from wrong if you've got adults acting that way. I've coached many youth sports in my day and even had an adult come on the court and go to his back pocket (as if he was going to pull a knife) at a 10 and under bb game because he didn't like a call. SMDH

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Feb 27, 2022, 3:39 PM [ in reply to This highlights a cultural divide in America. ]

No rational thinking person is saying that it’s ok he reacted by swinging at the end. The argument is that there is plenty of blame to go around to ALL of the coaches in this situation and people only want to see the retaliation. Placing all of the blame on one man in this particular situation is absurd. Let’s at least admit that there are more to blame for the situation escalating than just Howard.

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Feb 27, 2022, 3:55 PM

grabbing Howard's arm to try to explain why he called the timeout. He and Howard were friends, so it wasn't like he was grabbing some stranger on the street, and coaches always speak after the game. Howard, who was already fuming, immediately responded by grabbing Gard's collar in the classic bully collar grab before releasing it a second or two later and pointing his finger in his face. Howard was wrong to be mad in the first place over the time out, he was wrong to be mad over the arm grab and attempt to explain, and he was wrong to take a swing at the other coach. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Everything every other coach did was in response to Howards angry, wrong behavior.

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