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-10.5 Clemson
Dec 14, 2020, 1:02 PM
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I really think this is not enough. We got a chip on our shoulders from the last game... They are coming to our backyard so to speak... Everyone is healthy for the most part... I truly believe our coaches have been holding back on plays and ready to let it rip
Look out... Clemson by 3 tds
Anyone know a bookie?
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You don't need bookies anymore
Dec 14, 2020, 1:04 PM
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now that the interwebs have been invented (thanks Al Gore!)
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Re: -10.5 Clemson
Dec 14, 2020, 1:11 PM
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It wouldn't stun me if Clemson covered that spread, but I also wouldn't put money on it.
ND isn't fantastic, but they are pretty ###### solid. Very good chance they are fully in this game throughout.
IMO that line is a reflection of how respected our brand has become over the last 5-7 years. But brand won't actually matter Saturday.
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Re: -10.5 Clemson
Dec 14, 2020, 1:15 PM
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Vegas tries to make money.
They don't try to predict games.
The line is a reflection of how people will bet on the game.
It opened around 7 or 7.5 and was bet to over 10.
If I were going to bet, I would have gotten in with Notre Dame +11 yesterday.
I am guessing the line will be driven down some closer to the game as the bigger money comes in to reflect the expectation of a very close game.
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Re: -10.5 Clemson
Dec 14, 2020, 2:20 PM
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I understand how betting works. We all understand that the line moves in response to asymmetric betting.
My point is that the power of our brand strongly affects betting patterns. Betters believe in Clemson to an extent that may be a bit detached from straight football analyses of these two 2020 ND/Clemson teams.
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Re: -10.5 Clemson
Dec 14, 2020, 1:13 PM
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I think we cover. I would say 48-27
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Re: -10.5 Clemson
Dec 14, 2020, 1:21 PM
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To me the -10.5 seems to be reasonable.
I know that we had a lot of defensive guys out the first game so I do have confidence that our defense will be able to contain Book better this game. I also know that with DJ in the game, the hand off reads were not as effective due to the fact that he was also still recovering from an injury and was either hesitant to run, or told not to run unless absolutely necessary.
Even with Trevor in there I am still concerned about our ability run the ball effectively against the ND defensive front. This is not a knock on our O Line, just a fact that the D Line of ND is a very good group and we have to find away to keep them off of Travis and Trevor to be successful. Hopefully Tony Elliot can come up with a good game plan. It also seems that with all of the WR's that are still out, the Tight Ends may need to be a big part of the game plan.
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Re: -10.5 Clemson
Dec 14, 2020, 1:31 PM
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I hope I am pleasantly surprised and we cover. ND's defense is good, North Carolina scored 14 quick points against them, but ND only allowed 3 points the last 3 quarters and we know UNC has a very good offense - just ask Miami. I think we can win, but we have execute and not turn the ball over.
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Re: -10.5 Clemson
Dec 14, 2020, 2:15 PM
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We'll need a turnover/defensive score or two to win by 3 TDs in my view. I wouldn't be surprised if we see no new wrinkles offensively. I think Dabo/TE will show nothing new offensively if they think they can get away with it. If defense plays lights out, but no turnovers, and offense plays extremely well, I think a two TD victory is reasonable. With the tendency of the offense to stall a few drives, I'm not counting on a large margin of victory, although I would love to see it.
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