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The game is done and yall can have it. The fun is gone.
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Re: The game is done and yall can have it. The fun is gone.
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Dec 5, 2024, 5:40 AM
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Yep, it’s a joke. When billionaires decide who have the best team and players it just becomes meaningless at that point. The coaches have no real power in recruiting anymore. It’s all about who your alumni are and how much money they have.
Don’t really understand how anyone can defend this.
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If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
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Dec 5, 2024, 6:44 AM
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There is a huge difference between not understanding something and not liking it. That seems to be what you don’t understand. And that’s more like self imposed arrogance.
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
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Dec 5, 2024, 6:57 AM
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Because it's the right thing to do.
I have the law and many federal court decisions on my side.
Those that don't like the portal, NIL, and corporate sponsorship are fans of the old illegal, exploitative model.
It's not arrogant, it's staking out the well established high moral ground.
Not being able to keep up is ignorant.
Dislike for what's right is appalling.
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"exploitative model."
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Dec 5, 2024, 7:39 AM
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kids who can barley read and write getting a chance at a free education is some turrrble exploitation.
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Non Sequitur.
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Dec 5, 2024, 9:03 AM
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It has been long established by the federal courts that a scholly isn't fair market value.
Ergo, the old system exploited the athletes.
You're welcome.
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Re: Non Sequitur.
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Dec 6, 2024, 7:18 AM
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Well the courts get many things wrong!
Exploited? Nobody forced them to play!
They were and are the most privileged people in the world!
Exploited ? What a joke!
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Paw Warrior [4843]
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I think most people dont have an issue with players getting paid
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Dec 5, 2024, 8:05 AM
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I think most people DO have an issue with players getting paid millions of dollars just to commit to one school over another. I do not care what you think about Clemson’s money pool, we do not have the money to compete with Nike, Barstool, Microsoft, Oil and the like. That is what people have an issue with.
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
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Dec 5, 2024, 8:27 AM
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Because it's the right thing to do.
I have the law and many federal court decisions on my side.
Those that don't like the portal, NIL, and corporate sponsorship are fans of the old illegal, exploitative model.
It's not arrogant, it's staking out the well established high moral ground.
Not being able to keep up is ignorant.
Dislike for what's right is appalling.
Nothing arrogant about that post. 😂😂😂
It’s always interesting when people claim their opinion is the only one that is “right”. As I said in another comment, there is a reason that judges decisions are called “opinions”.
Since you know more than us ignorant poasters, what adjective do you use to describe people who resort to calling others names to try to make their point? One thing that I do know is that it doesn’t help to convince anyone that your opinion is right or righteous, even when spewed from some self- proclaimed “high moral ground”.
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Strawman argument. Logical fallacy.
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Dec 5, 2024, 9:06 AM
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You're trying to put words in my mouth.
That's not an honest argument.
I do have the court decisions on my side.
That is factual. It also is the high moral ground, given that those who disagree want to deny other people their right to earn as much money as they can from their abilities.
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Re: Strawman argument. Logical fallacy.
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Dec 5, 2024, 11:31 AM
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What words did I put in your mouth? Most of my comments include quotes but you say so much you probably don’t even remember what you said yourself. Everything here is just your opinion. Just like the judges’ rulings are theirs. The fact that they agree with your opinion doesn’t make it any more “right” or wrong than opinions that disagree. Judges opinions on a lot of very serious subjects have changed over the years. Hard to establish what is “right” sometimes based on their opinions.
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Re: Strawman argument. Logical fallacy.
Dec 5, 2024, 11:39 AM
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When you said that, it's a classic strawman.
It sounds a little like something I.saud, but I'd more extreme. It's a dishonest attempt to debunk something that YOU actually said.
Take a Logic 101 class then get back to me. Oh, and pay attention.
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Re: Strawman argument. Logical fallacy.
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Dec 5, 2024, 3:07 PM
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I never used the phrase classic straw man. Not in this post , or maybe ever.
Your post is unintelligible.
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Only to those with an inability to discern.******
Dec 6, 2024, 1:14 AM
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Re: Strawman argument. Logical fallacy.
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Dont waste your time! Bluf is a trolling Putz. BUT he/she/them has the Sherman Act and the Court on their side! Everyone is tired of her schtick! No duscussion, just calling people ignorant, telling them to take 101's, offering nothing but regurgitated entitled "Free Market" crappola.
Honestly Bluff, you could offer something to this board if you wanted since you seem to like the legal side of the NIL debate but your condensending confrontational attitude makes you seem like an entitled brat! Why don't you try to offer insight and conversation instead of puking out the same robotic diarrhea every day? Just a suggestion?
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Re: Strawman argument. Logical fallacy.
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really ? Court decisions moral? like the one that said African Americans were 3/10th of a person, that slavery was legal? that women dont have the right to vote ? Nothing is more changable than court decisions
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Re: Strawman argument. Logical fallacy.
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Dec 5, 2024, 3:08 PM
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I’ve been telling him that all day. He’s not listening.
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Baahahaha
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You're using a decision that supported exploitation to argue against decisions that reduced exploitation???
That's schizo .
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Re: Baahahaha
Dec 6, 2024, 6:21 AM
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So all this junk about having the courts in your side putting you on the high moral ground is just noise. You’re just always right and that’s all that matters.
Just curious, does being on high moral ground make it easier to lob insults down on the regular folks below you? You seem to be pretty good at it. Calling people schizo, stupid and all the other stuff you’ve spewed in this thread doesn’t really support your self proclaimed high moral position.
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Well - since it was a court decision - it MUST be MORAL AND TRUE
Dec 6, 2024, 4:18 AM
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Thank the lord that courts are the bastion of the highest ground of human morality.
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
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Dec 5, 2024, 9:11 AM
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Except the model doesn’t work for any professional sports league, which college football now is. So it will either die or it will be given the necessary exemptions to remain interesting enough to the general public. College football, for all the money being thrown around, draws a small fraction of the NFL audience. The evolution of the BCS into the 4 team playoff system did not help broaden the appeal. Expanding to 12 teams isn’t going to help if 8 of them come from the same two conferences and only 4-5 of those have a legit shot at winning once the billionaires are done. The House settlement is misleading. From a legal standpoint it only resolves a suit with former players. Any restriction regarding active and future players will be immediately challenged legally and will prevail. As you have rightly pointed out, the SC has made it clear that there is no basis to restrict player compensation. Until the government grants that permission D1 football will become more untenable for the average fan.
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Right on House/future players, wrong about everything else.
Dec 5, 2024, 9:15 AM
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The sky is not falling.
The new system is generating more interest, viewership, and money than ever before.
The playoffs are generating tons of interest, and the extra games will generate extra viewership and money.
It's a win/win for college football.
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Re: Right on House/future players, wrong about everything else.
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Dec 5, 2024, 9:24 AM
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Yep, it is generating so much interest that you can go to the Big 10 Championship game for less than the cost of a hamburger and drink.
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Re: Right on House/future players, wrong about everything else.
Dec 5, 2024, 7:58 PM
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The playoffs haven’t even started so you can’t make that assertion. And the highest rating CFP final drew nearly 6.2 million less viewers than the average NFL wild card game. Half of a divisional championship. A conference championship is more than the combined regular season viewership of Alabama’s SEC games. The Super Bowl is more than the highest rating game of every week of the college football season combined. CFP final rankings have shrunk dramatically since the BCS era. The last 3 averaging just over 21 million. The highest rated game of the 4 teams era was the first one. It shed 35% of its audience by last (and the year before, and the year before …)
ESPN is over leveraged on college football and Disney had to institute cost cutting when no one was interested in buying a stake.
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Re: Right on House/future players, wrong about everything else.
Dec 6, 2024, 2:19 AM
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It’s going down the drain quickly with no hope and viewership will go down too.
The future isn’t looking bright for college football 🏈 as greed has become its driver for all involved.
Putting God first, family second and then our hobbies or programs we like to watch or play come after that.
The new college football is asking for more money and more money and it seems it will never be enough to make your team the best or even top 10 or 5.
The way it’s done is changing too with the top two money earners yielding power in deciding who’s the best.
It’s a new pre-NFL without restrictions on stealing players if your dirty & have the money 💰.
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
Dec 5, 2024, 10:28 AM
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According Ai.......NFL has between 15-20 million TV viewers for every game whereas College games average from 5 - 10 million viewers per game, except for big bowls and NATY which compare to NFL. Attendees, however, show that College football has many more in person attendees than NFL due to the large number of teams and a number of huge stadiums which seat 80-110,000 for each game, whereas NFL stadiums usually seat only 50 - 65,000.
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
Dec 5, 2024, 8:01 PM
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The big bowls might equal regular season viewership but the lowest rated NFL post season game draws more viewers than the highest rated college football game in a season.
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I agree with you, if...
Dec 5, 2024, 9:45 AM
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....your premise is college football is the minor league for the NFL and NBA.
There is no law, nor any court decision, that has stated that the NCAA is legally compelled to be the minor league for either of those two leagues.
But, if your premise is the primary purpose of the NCAA is to prepare athletes for the NBA and NFL, then I agree with you.
I simply state that the NCAA is not legally forced to play that role. They have voluntarily and eagerly assumed that role.
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
Dec 5, 2024, 11:48 AM
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Or stay with me here....
You can not like the old model and think the new model needs work. Ergo why they are working on it now.
Otherwise you would be engaging in tribal mentality, which is the hallmark move of the Dems. "If you arent totally in my camp you must be in that other camp"
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
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So no real response? How is a place like Clemson supposed to compete in recruiting with Oregon? They have one alumni worth 34 billion willing to spend as much money as possible at recruits. Same with Michigan. Billionaire alumni decide who gets the best players.
Why are you ok with this? It’s completely unfair. Soon only the 9-10 richest alumni bases will have all of the players. Unless guard rails are put on, unlikely.
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Easy . Corporate sponsorship
Dec 5, 2024, 6:59 AM
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BMW, Michelin, Flour Daniel, Prisma, QT, etc.
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Re: Easy . Corporate sponsorship
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Dec 5, 2024, 7:10 AM
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BMW, Michelin, Flour Daniel, Prisma, QT, etc.
Corporations get involved in marketing with the intent of gaining a return in sales or services. They get little return donating to NIL for a vast majority of athletes who have no meaningful NIL marketability. Phil Knight and other big donors get to play NFL owner for their school buying players which is not true NIL compensation. I have no problem with sharing the profits of revenue generated. That’s where corporations will get involved but it won’t be chaos like Larry Ellison jumping on a Zoom call and agreeing to pay a HS kid millions to flip his commitment. That’s not legit NIL.
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The whine above says otherwise.
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Dec 5, 2024, 7:13 AM
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Nike, Barstool, etc, say hello.
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Re: The whine above says otherwise.
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Nike and Barstoll have FOUNDER CEOs that are zealous fans AND happen to also be the chairman of the board or have hand placed the COB. Because they founded the company they’ve made BILLIONS. Just like Yellawood for Auburn. None of the SC corporations around us have Clemson alumni FOUNDER CEOs. For example the Whataburger guy is a rabid Clemson fan but is getting a CEO salary not a founder that has already cashed in Billions.
Do you really think BMW or Michelin give a hoot if Clemson has good football?
Do you know that Clemson University has the smallest endowment in the ACC?
WE DO NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY AVAILABLE.
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Endowment doesn't matter
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Dec 5, 2024, 7:58 AM
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It can't be used for NIL.
Feel free to stop conflating endowment with what matters - NIL.
Clemson is holding steady at #17 in NIL according to both ON3 and 24/7 Sports.
Only FSU and UVa are ahead of us in ACC NIL funding.
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Re: Endowment doesn't matter
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So based on the logic I see on here daily regarding coach’s salaries, we should finish 3rd in the ACC and be happy with that.
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Re: The whine above says otherwise.
Dec 6, 2024, 1:34 AM
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When he put Michelin and BMW as support for corporate sponsorships at Clemson to pay players more he really showed how little he understands about corporate money. I literally laughed out loud when I read it.
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Re: Easy . Corporate sponsorship
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QT is an Oklahoma company, with a Chairman from Oklahoma. What is the QT connection to Clemson?
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
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You pretty much summed it up. The mega rich now control every aspect of our nation, including collegiate sports. Consequently, teams in the B1G and sec will recruit or flip the vast majority of the best talent, which will make it possible to easily win over everyone else. As Dabo pointed out, this year's playoff is just a B1G and sec tournament.
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
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Dec 5, 2024, 7:27 AM
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Everyone understands it!
Greed and selfishness by players and people who control players and stinking lawyers and judges with woke agendas have royally ruined college athletics!
I understand it perfectly!
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
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How about the coach making $11M per year. That’s one greedy bas#$&*.
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Re: If you don't understand, it's self imposed obsolescence******
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My answer to that is he is a professional! He went to school and got an education and training in the field of His choosing!
Dabo did not start out at 11 million He started as the lowest paid coach in the ACC. He has shared his salary and bonus money with His coaching staff. Dabo is being paid for what he has done. If he drops from that production the school has the right to let him go!
He makes Clemson far far more than the 11 Million they pay him.
He also has a contract!
Right now everything favors the player and they are not living in the real world!
It is broken! It is ruined as it currently stands!
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That's Bizzarro World backwards from reality.
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Dec 5, 2024, 8:01 AM
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The greed and selfishness is on the part of the NCAA, the schools, the coaches, and the associated equipment and services vendors who got rich on the backs of the athletes.
Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate
Under ordinary principles of antitrust law, it is not evident why college sports should be any different."
"The NCAA is not above the law."
SCOTUS Justice Brett Kavanaugh
Concurring opinion
NCAA vs Alston
The old NCAA system was exploitation right out of the Communist Manifesto.
Why would any American support such a horrible thing?
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Re: That's Bizzarro World backwards from reality.
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“ Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate”.
Name a company where workers make as much as or more than the CEO or highest level managers?
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The NFL, NBA, MLB , for starters***
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Posted this in support of Kavanaugh's take, not Mr. "Appeals to Outliers" guy.
It's horrendously naive to assume billion $ corporate sponsorships are "easy," or that the NIL model isn't going to eventually be refashioned into whatever the conferences and universities want it to be, at the expense of the players it's meant to help.
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Re: That's Bizzarro World backwards from reality.
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I’m what world does the old system line up with Marx’s ideas ? You do not understand Marx’s ideas if you think the exploitation by the NCAA/Schools off the backs of the student athletes was socialism. That’s capitalism, which robs people of their wages and funnels it to the top as “profit”. Marx said that workers should own their own labor, which is essentially what is happening now.
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It's the opposite of woke. Get real.
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It's based on laws that have been around since the 1890's. They were t enforced in college sports until a few athletes realize it applied to them and sued.
It's the opposite of woke. It's pure free market capitalism. You know, what the woke crowd hates because they are too lazy to compete in it?
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Re: It's the opposite of woke. Get real.
Dec 5, 2024, 1:45 PM
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How about inventions by students or employees of a company created while attending/working there? Don’t those go to the university/company (ie sticky notes)?
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Re: It's the opposite of woke. Get real.
Dec 6, 2024, 2:24 AM
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There’s no such thing as “pure free market capitalism”. What complete utter nonsense. All companies use roads, police, etc, paid for by the public. There could never be “pure free market capitalism”, it would collapse very quickly.
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Re: It's the opposite of woke. Get real.
Dec 6, 2024, 2:26 AM
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So everyone who doesn’t support “pure free market capitalism” is woke and lazy. God, you’re a very simple minded person.
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Re: The game is done and yall can have it. The fun is gone.
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Dec 5, 2024, 9:01 AM
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Agree, but coaches goal is the CFP. We have a fantastic supportive fan base, but can't compete against the Phil Knights or schools with massive alumni money like OSU or UGA.
The silver lining for teams in our position is the 12 team playoff. There is the Power 2, SEC and BIG, and the non power 3, including the ACC.
If the ultimate goal is CFP, I bet Lane Kiffin would prefer playing in a different conference.
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Re: The game is done and yall can have it. The fun is gone.
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Dec 5, 2024, 5:56 AM
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I get it.
I feel like a fool spending so much money to go watch these players that really do not give a rip about the school/ team / program.
If they would at least implement a 1 year “sit out “ rule on transfers , you would feel like there’s a better chance the guy that just signed on signing day will be there 3 years later. Right now, there’s zero punishment for switching schools every single year.
Not to mention that college football has turned into the least fan friendly sport in the country. When they do away with Fan Appreciation Day for the kids to at least come get their favorite players autograph like we all used to do because of NIL, why should those fans sit out in 100 degree heat at noon in September and walk 2 miles up hill for that same league
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How out of touch are you?
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Dec 5, 2024, 6:36 AM
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The NCAA cannot interfere with or restrict athlete transfers just as they can't fit any other student.
So says the federal court in the Ohio vs NCAA case. Somewhere around 15 other states' attorney generals joined that suit.
So, what you want is how NCAA execs get jailed for contempt of court and fined and sued into oblivion.
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Re: How out of touch are you?
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Dec 5, 2024, 7:31 AM
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Maybe I need to read that case. If it says what you say it is entirely wrong! ( half these judges don’t know the difference between male and female)
Students are restricted from just going school to school at least by grades and time frames.
Those other students are not being paid!
We are no longer talking about students they have become employees !
As employees they like the rest of the world should have contracts and contracts benefit both parties!
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can they not have bylaws and participation restrictions? its just a free for all
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Dec 5, 2024, 9:07 AM
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now? Why can't they have transfer rules for their programs? My job uses non competes all the time. They can't tell you that you can't go to another place altogether but they put limitations out there. And you have that decision to say, no I don't want to work for you. So i guess these kids can turn down playing for colleges associated with the NCAA and wait the 3 year period to be eligible for the NFL if they want to.
There has to be limitations of the free for all nature that we've thrown our hands up at for the last 3 years. Otherwise it will undoubtedly be one major league and then a bunch of secondary leagues. Based on NIL funders and TV contracts. Clemson is a dying program if not.
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Re: The game is done and yall can have it. The fun is gone.
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Dec 5, 2024, 6:00 AM
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I’m feeling similar frustration. I don’t blame the kids. I blame the adults who created this Wild West system of haves and have nots for their own selfish motives.
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Blame the NCAA for their illegal, exploitive model.
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Dec 5, 2024, 6:30 AM
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Thank the courts for fixing it.
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Re: Blame the NCAA for their illegal, exploitive model.
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Dec 5, 2024, 6:51 AM
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It is Ed Obannon’s fault. He opened this door. He killed NCAA football game franchise. The first time name image and likeness was litigated. Bluffton isn’t wrong. This Wild West was created by lawsuits the NCAA lost. We have legal precedents we have to follow. Restricting the portal is against the law.
The only chance we have is Tommy Tuberville. He’s working on passing laws that would make common sense limits on transfers, NIL, and revenue sharing. Pray the republicans listen and pass these laws while they have bicameral control.
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That's utter B.S.
Dec 5, 2024, 7:02 AM
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The NCAA was at fault for their decades of illegal exploitation.
O'Bannon, Alston, House, and the states of Ohio and Tennessee figured it out and got the courts to swing the pendulum toward fairness to the athletes.
The NCAA has lost every related case.
That says that they, not O'Bannon or anyone else is responsible for anything stemming from their corrupt model.
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Even if Tuberville is successful
Dec 5, 2024, 7:17 AM
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(doubtful) it's going to radically change things much more that what's being complained about here.
Employment and no student requirements.
Unionization.
The right to strike.
A draft instead of recruiting.
131 team parity.
Excluding the military academies because they can't use that model.
Your kid being forced to play for Oregon or Fresno State instead of Clemson if they draft him. Good luck getting to his games.
You really didn't think this through, did you?
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Re: Blame the NCAA for their illegal, exploitive model.
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Dec 5, 2024, 7:45 AM
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They should be paid for their NIL. I have no problem with that.
What they are being paid for is playing Football.
That is two different things!
Let them sale all the posters and t.shirts and games they are able to sell! Do all the commercials you like.
But those contracts should be between the player and the game maker , t shirt maker and advertisers not between players and schools for playing a sport.
( if the school sells the jersey then the player deserves something) I don’t know maybe something like a free education and room and board and all the other perks that come with a scholarship!
It’s ruined! Sooner or later people
Will stop watching and going to games and then it all falls apart.
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Re: Blame the NCAA for their illegal, exploitive model.
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Dec 5, 2017, 1:25 AM
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The exploitation goes on They just moved the cheese. Glad the kids get their piece but now the universities become exploited by billionaires and corporations. The Cinderella programs will eventually cease to exist.
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This is sad. America's best sport (IMO) is gone.***
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Dec 5, 2024, 6:08 AM
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That's backwards from reality. It's better than ever.******
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Dec 5, 2024, 6:32 AM
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Re: That's backwards from reality. It's better than ever.******
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Dec 5, 2024, 6:54 AM
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There’s where we disagree. It’s a $h1t show. It’s the NFL. We already have a pro league with zero loyalty. You don’t understand that part of committing to a school is learning loyalty and how to be a good human being?! This model teaches them to be prostitutes
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In what planet do you reside.
Dec 5, 2024, 7:05 AM
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It's clearly not the NFL. I understand that athletes decommitted all the time going back decades.
It's stupid to make that some moral crusade. It's a simple business or life choice decision for the athletes.
And...if you've ever changed jobs, your stance is nauseating hypocrisy. 🤮🤮🤮
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