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Unexpected surprise at the game yesterday.
Nov 13, 2022, 8:26 PM
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I'll try to make this as brief as possible, but I thought it was an interesting story. If you get bored just quit reading. I'll understand.
While walking from the tailgate party to the Tiger Walk, I found myself standing beside a guy wearing an Antonio Williams jersey who was talking to 4 UL fans, including one wearing a Tyler Hudson jersey. They were all obviously friends. (I found out in a few minutes why they were there. They were waiting on the UL: busses to drop off the team by their dressing room.) Well, those of you who met me know I'll talk to anybody, so I tapped the Clemson fan on the shoulder and said, "One Tiger and 4 Cards. I guess that makes it a fair fight." Everybody laughed. He introduced his friend. "He and I played football together at LSU. His son plays for the Cards and my godson plays for the Tigers." I said, "Is Antonio your godson?" He said he was. Then the Card guy said, "Yeah, Tyler is my son. He wears 0 just like Antonio. Both are wide receivers. Strange coincidence, huh?"
We had a nice conversation until the busses arrived and the players started getting off. They were understandably more interested in yelling to the players than talking to me.
Anyway, it was neat meeting them, especially Antonio's godfather.
Side note: Both players were lights out.
Antonio: 10 receptions, 83 yards, 1 TD
Hudson: 11 receptions, 163 yards (41% of their offense)
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Nice story. Thank you for sharing.***
Nov 13, 2022, 8:33 PM
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Bret, the speed at which you make friends is amazing!
Nov 13, 2022, 8:34 PM
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Glad you had a good "first trip." I look forward to your next one.
You have mentioned several times in our conversations how you spent a couple of months at Clemson back in 1993. Can you elaborate on that?
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Summer in Clemson, 1993.
Nov 13, 2022, 9:13 PM
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Graphing calculators were just coming into general acceptance. I was pretty proficient on Texas Instrument (TI) calculators. I knew nothing about Hewlett Packard (HP) calculators. Most colleges were using HPs. They used a different algebraic system (RPN, which is short for Reverse Polish Notation - honest, not a joke.)
Clemson was a leader in incorporating HPs into their classes.
I sat in on two classes (Calculus and Linear Algebra). My job was not to learn the material in the course, but to see how the calculators were used in the courses and to compare the TI and HP calculators.
It was extremely enlightening. I was able to come back to my school and convince the math department, over some strong opposition, to incorporate using graphing calculators into the curriculum.
For the next several years I led numerous workshops (high school and college educators) on how to use the calculators and how to integrate them into the courses.
For those of you familiar with the calculators I was in the generation of the TI 80, 82, 85, 86 and 87.
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Re: Summer in Clemson, 1993.
Nov 13, 2022, 9:21 PM
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HP41CV baby!
Got me through engineering!
Finally crapped out a couple years ago. Can’t bring myself to throw it away.
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HP vs. TI
Nov 14, 2022, 8:55 AM
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us TI guys referred to y'all as "HP Snobs."
Actually, RPN is not bad once you get used to it. We decided to go with TI because at the community college level students were coming in with zero knowledge of RPN. The learning curve was too great. Back in the early 90s students were not comfortable with graphing calculators at all. We figured trying to get them over "calculator phobia" was hard enough. We didn't want to add to it "RPN fear" as well.
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Re: Summer in Clemson, 1993.
Nov 13, 2022, 9:30 PM
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Still prefer a RPN calculator 23 years after My time at Clemson!
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I was at the Army Comm-Eng. Officer Course
Nov 13, 2022, 9:40 PM
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in Dec 1973 when handheld calculators first became affordable. I had a special assignment to upgrade one part of the course so I missed the initial math portions, and when I got back with the main class I was the only one that hadn't bought a calculator. I went with the TI since it had the square root and inverse functions as well as the 4 basic functions. A few years later the HPs came out and I saw their advantage in functionality, but kept screwing up the RPN. Had forgotten about it until you just reminded me. It took a few years before most schools would allow calculators to be used during tests.
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Re: I was at the Army Comm-Eng. Officer Course
Nov 14, 2022, 3:40 AM
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in Dec 1973 when handheld calculators first became affordable. I had a special assignment to upgrade one part of the course so I missed the initial math portions, and when I got back with the main class I was the only one that hadn't bought a calculator. I went with the TI since it had the square root and inverse functions as well as the 4 basic functions. A few years later the HPs came out and I saw their advantage in functionality, but kept screwing up the RPN. Had forgotten about it until you just reminded me. It took a few years before most schools would allow calculators to be used during tests.
My first year at Clemson, our Chem Engineering professor made us learn and use a slide rule. I still have it.
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Re: Summer in Clemson, 1993.
Nov 13, 2022, 11:39 PM
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I used the HP 48g for Calculus while at clemson in 97-98. I still use it almost daily for work. Lucky enough not for calculus but for pharmaceutical calculations. It sits on the counter at the pharmacy but none of my coworkers dare to even try to use it. I explain the RPN and they grab a $5 calculator on the counter and then they walk away. I’ve even bought an extra off eBay as a spare.
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Re: Summer in Clemson, 1993.
Nov 14, 2022, 5:52 AM
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The only tool we were allowed to use was a slide rule (that was 1967-1971). I knew a few guys who had a TI calculator a couple of years later... I think it was the TI DataMath. I have continued to use Algebra, Geometry, and Trig all my life writing computer gaming programs. I had to laugh when Clover65 said that calculus made him change majors... same for me-- changed from Chem E to Pre Med! Calculus just never made sense to me.
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Re: Summer in Clemson, 1993.
Nov 14, 2022, 8:50 AM
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My HP48SX took me thru school!
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I survived from 88-92 in engineering with this baby
Nov 14, 2022, 9:04 AM
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It was all I needed at the time. This, some log paper, and time in the Mac Lab.
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Re: surprise at the game yesterday.
Nov 13, 2022, 8:37 PM
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Wow, impressive you met them on your first trip. Cool story thanks for sharing
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Re: surprise at the game yesterday.
Nov 13, 2022, 8:46 PM
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Cool story , thanks
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That was a cool moment.
Nov 13, 2022, 9:25 PM
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I'm glad you enjoyed your day at Clemson!
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Nice story,,,,glad we got....
Nov 13, 2022, 9:33 PM
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FSU early in the season...they're putting it together now, that win may end up being the best one of the year for CU!!
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Re: Nice story,,,,glad we got....
Nov 13, 2022, 10:00 PM
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After reading this, my IQ is way below you guys. Algebra, have not used it since graduating. Calculus, no comment.
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Right there with you
Nov 13, 2022, 10:03 PM
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calculus made me change majors
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Unexpected surprise at the game yesterday. Woody
Nov 13, 2022, 10:09 PM
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Woodaz, he was not highly sought after, but the Tigers saw he was also a QB and a Safety big with good speed.
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