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Know what's bad? DW4 has more support on FGF than here.
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Know what's bad? DW4 has more support on FGF than here.

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Mar 21, 2021, 9:45 PM

Dont get me wrong, there are a few outliers, but the amount of "Tiger Fans" who have ready judged a young man that has been among our finest ambassadors is astonishing. SMH


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I feel like the majority have supported him on here***

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Mar 21, 2021, 9:47 PM



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Mar 21, 2021, 9:53 PM

Majority on our site, yes. But a whole lot have not. Again on OUR site. That is troubling to me at least.

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Mar 21, 2021, 9:54 PM

Let it play out

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Mar 21, 2021, 9:58 PM

He has my support.

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Mar 22, 2021, 10:31 AM

Mine too.

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By far most everybody supports him and hopes he is innocent.

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Mar 21, 2021, 10:00 PM

But I also don’t have my blinders on. We are all human and his temptations are greater than I’ll ever face. I hope he’s innocent and hope the evidence is overwhelmingly clear bc I also worry that if he’s innocent but it’s not obvious that his reputation will be tarnished anyways. I’m not sure anyone doesn’t support him. But that doesn’t mean people aren’t worried it may be true. I will still support him and pray for him even if he’s guilty. But again first I hope it’s all bs.

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I'm confident that Deshaun is not a rapist or sexual

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Mar 21, 2021, 10:34 PM

predator, nor would he ever presssure or intimidate a woman to have sex with him. I'm equally confident that the accusers in this case are prostitutes, or at least Deshaun had good reason to believe they were, and he went there to avail himself of their services. I don't know if it was a setup from the get-go, or they put this together after the fact, but it's clearly a money-grab. This is all pure speculation on my part, of course, but just putting 2 and 2 together. I will continue to support Deshaun along these lines until I find out otherwise.

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I agree with you and may be I should be clearer. I don’t think he raped anyone.

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Mar 21, 2021, 10:42 PM

But I bet he paid them for more than a massage. So much better than assault but at the same time I’m sure that’s not the look he wants out there. Hope he learns from it. Hate to be that way but everyone he comes across wants some of his money and he needs to look at it that way. I get that’s jaded but pretty darned close to true.

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Mar 21, 2021, 11:03 PM

Of course - they are prostitutes. I'm sure they have some kind of evidence that he hooked up with them, shuch as text messages, credit card transaction, etc., or else there would be no law suit. That being the case, why would somebody see 20+ massage therapists over a short span of time? Not for massages, that's for sure; if he were, he wouldn't be contacting them through craig's list, he'd have some one he knows, somebody from the Texans or a personal assistant set up something with a legitimate, reputable therapist. Not 20 women off of Craig's list. It's probably poor judgement on his part, for sure, but I'm sure he's not the only NFL player doing it. That's just my crazy theory - I could be way off.

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Prostitution is illegal... this gives the Texans and NFL ...

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Mar 21, 2021, 11:25 PM

An out on his contract.... DW should have been more cognizant of the terms of his contract. THIS is why they are exposing it.

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That is very possible.***


Mar 21, 2021, 11:36 PM



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Mar 22, 2021, 8:42 AM

I keep asking this to everyone posting about the Texans being behind everything. If the Texans wanted out of his contract, why wouldn't they just trade him and get multiple 1st round draft picks in return?

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Mar 22, 2021, 3:29 PM

There is a reason no one will address the point you made, they can't. The suggestion that Texans' executives cooked this up to destroy DW's value to the team and trade value is so stupid as to be catastrophic. It's next level dumb and shows the extent people will go to defend something and someone they know very little about. It's easier to believe it's all a conspiracy than have to admit DW may not be the guy they thought he was.

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Mar 28, 2021, 11:13 PM

Dude, you’re talking about a microcosm of individuals that suggested that or actually believe it. Just stop.

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Re: I agree with you and may be I should be clearer. I don’t think he raped anyone.


Mar 28, 2021, 10:40 PM

Poor judgement. Exactly. Also known in less polite circles as young, and dumb, and full of come. Rapist? No. Sexual Predator? No. Sex Addict? Maybe.

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Re: By far most everybody supports him and hopes he is innocent.


Mar 22, 2021, 8:56 AM

Everything that has been said, there hasn't been ONE Shred of evidence to prove what these women are saying. IMPO, I believe that it's a witch hunt by the sleazebag lawyer doing the pumping of these accusations against DW4, and these women are hoping for an easy settlement check from DW4!!!!!!!!!!!

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LovingIt put it pretty well too. Good post.

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Mar 22, 2021, 1:16 PM

Nm

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Re: Know what's bad? DW4 has more support on FGF than here.

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Mar 21, 2021, 10:00 PM

Here it is in its simplest form...

Those who support DW4 are probably conservative just waiting for the facts to come out.

Those who don’t are more than likely liberals who are the “believe her at all costs” folks.

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Re: Know what's bad? DW4 has more support on FGF than here.

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Mar 22, 2021, 8:48 AM

Pretty ironic you say one side waits for all the facts to come out, and then you turn around and group everyone into two categories. That's the problem with both sides in this country, everyone just wants to throw the other side into a "that side does this thing every single time" basket.

It's obvious that people on both sides tend to jump to conclusions and believe what they want to believe based on their opinion on the person or topic beforehand.

Both conservatives and liberals are most likely to believe someone in Watson's position or wait to see all the facts if they had a high opinion of Watson before this.

Both conservatives and liberals are most likely to believe Watson might be guilty of these actions if they didn't have a high opinion o him, or were perhaps fans of a rival team before all of this.

Basically, let's just say that at least 80% of the members on this site either believe Watson is innocent, or are taking a wait and see approach. Do we honestly believe that 80% of the members on this site would feel the same if the player being accused was a former Gamecock player, or player from Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, or LSU?

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My god you can't be this dumb***

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Mar 22, 2021, 8:50 AM



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Mar 22, 2021, 10:45 AM

Why? For wanting to let the facts come out before piling on a young man who helped to change our football culture? Yeah, that would just be idiotic and crazy! I mean, innocent until proven guilty? BLASPHEMY! LOL.

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Yea...just ask William Barr...

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Mar 22, 2021, 12:05 PM

It would be totally unheard-of and out of the question for a woman to lie about inappropriate conduct for personal gain.




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Re: My god you can't be this dumb***

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Mar 22, 2021, 12:49 PM

But you seem perfectly willing to "pile on" a group of women that you have no idea are lying to telling the truth. You seem perfectly willing to advance a narrative so outrageous that anyone with an IQ higher than that of a carrot could see through (the Texans are doing this to destroy his value to the team and trade value).

There are several things here that can simultaneously be true:

DW was a great college QB and is a great pro.

Despite what is often advanced here, association with Clemson doesn't actually mean players and coaches walk on water.

DW may have a proclivity for hookers (which probably destroys your image of what a Clemson player is).

Someone found out about his proclivity for hookers and decided to cash in on it.

Stop taking it so personally. DW doesn't know you and you don't know him. If fact, outside you whatever you might spend to advance his career, it's pretty safe to say he wouldn't want anything to do with you.

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No one here thinks anyone who wears the paw walks on water


Mar 22, 2021, 1:27 PM

hth

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Actually, many people here think exactly that.


Mar 28, 2021, 11:09 PM

A majority of folks here aren’t able to consider the fact that Deshaun might’ve wanted more than a massage. They can’t possibly imagine that a superstar QB from Clemson could do something like that.

Instead, it’s a huge conspiracy by this attorney or the Texans or some other clandestine group who doesn’t like Deshaun or doesn’t want him to succeed. You know, sort of like how it’s a conspiracy to create a viral pandemic or rig the election against Trump.

The lengths people go to in order to create a reality that coincides with their own desires.

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Thanks for your Pharisaic Morality Lecture.

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Mar 22, 2021, 1:37 PM

We know UGa fans and athletes are spotless.

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Re: Thanks for your Pharisaic Morality Lecture.

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Mar 22, 2021, 3:15 PM

Not at all. UGA has had it's share of players with problems while at school and afterwards. This DW thing is so shocking to TNWT because some among the Tiger fanbase had actually come to believe that all things Clemson are morally superior.

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Awful Bold Comments From a Man About to Lose His Football

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Mar 22, 2021, 2:09 PM

Program.

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Mar 22, 2021, 3:16 PM

Sure. See you game 1.

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Mar 28, 2021, 11:17 PM

I’m sure over there on the slobber-board y’all are just as objective as a judge in small claims court about the goings on of your program and alum. GTFOH ??

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Mar 29, 2021, 6:15 PM

they crucified those kids before they knew the facts. and wouldn't you know! the lady made the entire story up!!!! Too late for the lacrosse players though, their reputations were already shredded.

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Mar 22, 2021, 10:38 AM

You can't be that stupid.

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I see a ton of support for Deshaun, and only a few trolls

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Mar 21, 2021, 10:14 PM

who are siding with the hookers.

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Yep. If anything, it seems to be a whole bunch of homerism here.***


Mar 28, 2021, 11:18 PM



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Cobbox on Brad Brownell: “His only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


reminds me of someone's blind support for brown-L

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Mar 29, 2021, 5:03 PM



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I knew

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Mar 29, 2021, 6:17 PM

it was coming lol +1

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Mar 22, 2021, 12:01 AM

I’m confident i probably have about 25% of the actual story, therefore unlike others who believe everything they read or hear from a corrupt and or agenda driven media, I’ll just sit back and watch it unfold.

Having said that, things like this is why I don’t get caught up in drooling over athletes or any other so-called high profile public figures. Many of them are not folks you would want to spend time with and we probably wouldn’t like seeing what they are really like. I just need you throw /run/ block/ or tackle really well as a Tiger and then the rest is on you. And is also why I don’t need an athletes advice on political or moral issues.

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Mar 22, 2021, 10:43 AM

Let it play out. Don't confuse being a super athlete with being incapable of corruption. Tiger Woods is arguably the greatest golfer the world has ever produced, and he literally had to buy a new phone because his old one had all its memory eaten up with ####.

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I agree Jarhead and this is a no win situation for Watson

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Mar 22, 2021, 1:01 PM

If he’s exonerated the stigma is there forever and he’s half the man he used to be. But what’s really sad is he’s finding out people he thought were his friends and cheered him on quickly fall by the wayside when the accusations fly.

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Mar 22, 2021, 1:14 PM

Well Gamecocks are known to be stupid, so there's that! Reality tells us that this does not look good. Saying that he is being set-up is not support. Support is truly saying that let the judicial system run its course and 8f found guilty we hope for his rehabilitation and recovery. But who knows if he's guilty or not. Most of us do not really know DW4. We hope it is not true.

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I Don't Know What Board You Are Reading...But My Estimate

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Mar 22, 2021, 2:08 PM

is about 9:1 support for him here.

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CIA

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Mar 22, 2021, 3:23 PM

Bill Cosby was loved, respected, and admired for DECADES until the truth was finally revealed, by multiple accusers, very similar to the current DW4 situation. Being a fan can't blind you. Yes, he is athletic. Yes, he is a good ambassador. Yes, he says and does the correct things in public. So did Bill Cosby.

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Mar 28, 2021, 9:48 PM

Bill Cosby lured his victims by promising them career starts or enhancements then drugged them and had sex with them or raped them - clearly criminal offenses. There is no comparison to anything DW4 has been accused of.

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Mar 29, 2021, 5:09 PM

NOT like Cosby at all! Cosby drugged his victims. Dw4 is a bad judge of women and obviously lacking in sexual morality.

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Mar 22, 2021, 3:34 PM

I'm not sure what Deshaun did, if anything. But I am of the age that when you went a little too far with a gal you probably got slapped and you stopped. That was the end of it. If he did something or asked for something that was beyond what he was supposed to a firm "NO" should have been the end of it. Until I hear of something more than hearsay or hear real evidence I'm standing behind Deshaun.

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What if he paid for and they obliged? Now they want to singa


Mar 28, 2021, 6:20 PM

Different tune to extract $. To which the NFL and/or Texans stirred this up to create leverage because they could just cancel his contract per ethical code of conduct clause and make an example of him to others trying this ever again.

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Mar 28, 2021, 9:59 PM

I have always supported Deshaun. With that being said it has been well known that he is a womanizer. I don’t blame him I would be too in his shoes. With that being said with that I’ve heard about him in his personal life I was 0 percent surprised that he got himself in this pickle

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Mar 28, 2021, 11:10 PM

Call me an outlier.

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I support him!


Mar 29, 2021, 5:25 PM

Getting help ....

Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt ...

I don’t think as many rushed to judgement when the first dozen accusations came out.

Maybe a few did when the 20th one came out ...

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