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Cade K. Our QB commit just messed up his arm/Shoulder hope
Oct 8, 2021, 10:18 PM
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He is ok
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Re: Cade K. Our QB commit just messed up his arm/Shoulder hope
Oct 8, 2021, 10:22 PM
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He’s going to be another great Tiger & QB, something the coots have never had!
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Fact!***
Oct 8, 2021, 10:46 PM
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Re: Fact!***
Oct 9, 2021, 6:32 AM
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Guess it's not enough to have our whole team banged up, get our mid years stars hurt too. Just pray it's not one of those nagging things like Trevor had that eventually requires surgery.
May need him to go through a full spring and be good to go for uga 22... Have confidence d.j. can pull it together but just in case he doesn't, be nice to have Cade ready.
Mediocre year this year is one thing but can ill afford 2 in a row.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 8, 2021, 11:10 PM
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Case is going to need a couple years in the weight room to be able to handle the beatings of college football too. You can tell once he does he will just be amazing,.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 8, 2021, 11:18 PM
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Yeah, not so much. Deshaun got hurt his first year and was good by the start of his second. Trevor was ready his first. It should never take a top guy a couple of years to transition up.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 8, 2021, 11:25 PM
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I am not saying Case won't be ready next week. That's not what I am talking about. I have been saying it for weeks how great he will be once he gets stronger. He needs to even get stronger. He is very lanky, but he is young and he will get stronger. He needs to get bigger and stronger to take the bearing he will take. He will though.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 8, 2021, 11:27 PM
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It won’t take more than a year. If it does, he isn’t the guy.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 8, 2021, 11:34 PM
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Whatever. I have seen guys where they shined starting as redshirt jrs or seniors. There is no telling. Look at Mac Jones. They are a dime a dozen.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 8, 2021, 11:37 PM
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Those aren’t physical…mental maybe. If a guy can’t commit physically for a year at a QB/Skill, he isn’t the guy…OL/DL is a different animal.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 8, 2021, 11:38 PM
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QB's take a beating. Yes, sometimes they have to get stronger. They aren't kickers.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 8, 2021, 11:40 PM
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They don’t really. If it takes more than a year for an 18-19 year old to get physically ready to play, they don’t care.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 8, 2021, 11:48 PM
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Wow...ok. Our QB's run the ball and can take a beating. Many aren't even full grown at 17-18. They aren't all the same. As Dabo stated, that some kids are still growing and that is a factor as to why he likes to wait and see on some guys. They can get way stronger. ANyway, this conversation is just too ridiculous to keep going with it. Almost all the players transform their bodies in college. Deshaun got way stronger as it went along. They are a dime a dozen. Aaron Rodgers was 5ft 10 and 160plbs out of HS and went to a JC. Prime example. They are maturing.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 8, 2021, 11:58 PM
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Again, a year, a 18-19 year old is hormonally primed to grow. If he isn’t physically ready to play a skill position in a year, he probably isn’t committed enough. At QB, the mental game is more important. Guys can take longer to develop mentally, but it shouldn’t take more than a year for a guy to be ready physically.
Aaron Rodgers didn’t win anything at Cal. He would probably say that he needed to mature mentally before actually committing to getting physically ready to play.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 9, 2021, 12:06 AM
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Very few of them are 19. Most are 17 right now and turning 18 soon, so that's your first mistake. You don't know enough bout sports or even the basic of their ages and how people grow to continue the conversation. Scottie Pippen was 6ft 1 when he started college.He graduated at 6ft 8 and became an all time great. Some males aren't even fully grown until 20. They are all not the same. That said, we both pull for the Tigers, so go Tigers!! Have a good night.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 9, 2021, 12:21 AM
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17 is even better to start a committed training and nutrition program. You may get to take advantage of the growth happening that you reference with Pippen. These guys are primed to grow. We aren’t talking about project guys here, this is the #1 guy in the country…he isn’t a project.
It’s actually pretty funny that you don’t think I understand or have personally experienced the planning and execution of sports training.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 9, 2021, 1:03 AM
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I doubt you do, but that's cool. I will just leave it at this. He is 6ft 2.5 and a 185 lbs. He will add a lot of strength at Clemson and he has still has room to grow. He probably works his butt off now too. Just because someone is ranked number 1 by some recruiting service is meaningless as far as him getting stronger. He is a great player. What does that have to do with him getting stronger as he matures and lifts? The dude is probably 17 years old. He will be night and day a few years from now. He is a freak athlete and will be that much stronger too. I don't even see what you're complaing about. You're saying he should be maxed out when he shows up in campus? What is your point actually. Mine was always that he will get stronger over the next couple of years and it will serve him well. Yours was what again?
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 9, 2021, 1:12 AM
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You said it will take a few years for him to be physically ready. I said it shouldn’t take more than a year for a QB to be physically ready and the mental development will be what actually matters.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 9, 2021, 1:19 AM
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No I never said that exactly. You read it wrong. I am not saying he won't be ready to play immediately. I am saying in a few years he will be truly ready physically to take the beatings with less risk of injury. That's all. He is just going to get stronger over time and in the system and has he matures which help him max out his abilities and help him avoid injuries. I thought it was pretty straightforward. I see what you thought I was saying. Nah...not saying that.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 9, 2021, 1:23 AM
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What I’m saying is that you’re underestimating how much a young, focused guy can develop physically in a year or even a summer. The mental aspect of the position is the only real concern.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 9, 2021, 1:36 AM
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No I am not underestimating what one an do in one summer. I have seen it many times. Not at all. Sure a lot can be done in a few months. I just realize how much more gets done over time as a kid matures in a strength program at Clemson over a few years. It's a proven fact. It's night and day for all of them. We have all seen it. You haven't noticed the difference in our players after being in the program a few years?. You think the summer before college is the same? That's cool. I guess we see it differently. No big deal. I think he will be night and day physically in 3 years.
On a different note, here is the video of him getting hurt. Its just down a bit.
https://theclemsoninsider.com/2021/10/08/bad-news-on-5-star-clemson-qb-commit/ Bad news on 5-star Clemson QB commit Bad news on Clemson's five-star quarterback commitment. Clemson class of 2022 five-star quarterback commit Cade Klubnik of Westlake High School (Austin, Texas) left his team's game Friday night in a golf cart with an apparent injury, according to multiple reports on Twitter.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 9, 2021, 1:45 AM
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It’s the first year where you see the dramatic physical difference across the board, they are exposed to a structured training and nutrition plan. Most aren’t getting adequate or appropriate nutrition. OL/DL is a different animal, there are body composition changes that may be required and can take 2-3 years to survive to consistent beating those guys take.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 9, 2021, 1:55 AM
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You agree that it takes more than the summer before college. That's a start. Cool. On that note Deshaun took a beating. Cade will take a beating the way he plays too. We disagree about the QB position at Clemson apparently.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 9, 2021, 1:58 AM
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Yeah, as I said, it shouldn’t take more than a year for a QB to be ready physically. Some are ready after a summer, some are ready at the start of year two.
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Re: Injury to his non-throwing shoulder ...
Oct 9, 2021, 2:01 AM
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Yes, there will be a big difference by the time he starts his sophomore year. Yep.
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