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Here’s a new wild theory for the DJ mystery
Nov 27, 2022, 11:43 PM
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I’ll take you back to early august 2021. NIL is only 6 weeks old. DJ is the heir apparent to be the next great Clemson QB coming off a back up role that saw him ball out against Notre Dame and Boston College when Trevor had Covid.
Everyone had DJ pegged as a Heisman favorite. He was believed to be the QB that might win multiple natties at Clemson.
Dr. Pepper signs him to a 7 figure deal. These companies aren’t dumb enough to fork out millions of dollars without a guarantee of ROI. Possibly the contract has clauses to protect the company. Depth chart? Games started? Minutes played? Quarters
Played? Player protected from repayment based on injury only?
What if the contract did have such a clause. DJ and everyone else in the world believes he’s the next face of Clemson for at least 2 years. No issue with the fine print.
Maybe there’s a clause in that contract where DJ has to pay back loads of money if he loses the starting job. Dabo is protecting him from financial ruin?
Or maybe I’m a conspiracy nut.
Of course I have absolutely no clue. All I know is we have a QB that is just not very good at all and Dabo is hell bent on him being our starter and there’s no logical explanations. Just fun/not so fun conjecture.
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I've been told a few times that NIL money is not allowed
Nov 27, 2022, 11:45 PM
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to have any tie-in to playing time or performance metrics.
Now that may or may not be the reality, but I think them's the rules.
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Re: I've been told a few times that NIL money is not allowed
Nov 27, 2022, 11:48 PM
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Allowed by whom? A contract with an NDA should prevent any prying eyes.
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Re: the state of South Carolina.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:07 AM
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Hmmm a bit vague. “Performance and attendance”. I could see loops holes being made around this bit of jargon.
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Re: the state of South Carolina.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:09 AM
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This seems crystal clear to me. As I said, could people be skirting the law? Absolutely, and wouldn't be the first time, but the law itself is clear in what it says.
"Compensation earned by an intercollegiate athlete for the use of his name, image, or likeness must represent a genuine payment for the use of his name, image, or likeness, independent of, rather than as a payment for, his athletic participation or performance."
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Re: the state of South Carolina.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:14 AM
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Yeah the nil contract itself must be payment for NIL and not performance or attendance
But there is no law against entering into a separate non NIL related contract for payment by the athlete to the company for lack of performance or attendance. Ie loop holes
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The only payments to student athletes are within the
Nov 28, 2022, 12:41 AM
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confines of NIL rules. It's not like you can take NIL money or just go sign a random contract and still retain amateur status. The NIL is the vehicle the contract operates under.
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Re: the state of South Carolina.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:09 AM
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Wonder if there's a workaround for a contract executed and employed under the laws of a different forum state. I see nothing in the statute accounting for that.
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When he's a Clemson affiliated athlete, it's SC law.***
Nov 28, 2022, 12:11 AM
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Re: When he's a Clemson affiliated athlete, it's SC law.***
Nov 28, 2022, 12:24 AM
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I deal with NDAs and Non-Compete contracts all the time. All contracts have a "choice of law" provision. It states If the parties ever have a dispute that results in a lawsuit, the laws of a particular state will govern it, no matter where the suit itself is filed. This is typically in the state of the corporation, not the employee. For instance, the laws of Texas would be applied to an NIL deal between DJ and Dr Pepper (located in Waco, TX.)
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I'm sure you're more educated on the topic than I am,
Nov 28, 2022, 12:27 AM
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but was not a key to the SC Bill that it was created to apply rules to student athletes receiving NIL money while playing at schools within the state of SC?
I've always heard that SC schools in general face an uphill NIL battle because our laws on the topic are some of the more stringent on the books. Why would anyone even worry about that if any organization or NIL consortium could just incorporate in a state with laxer laws for contract purposes with a SC student athlete?
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Re: I've been told a few times that NIL money is not allowed
Nov 27, 2022, 11:50 PM
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Interesting note that would squash this entirely. However, from my understanding there is no regulation of nil right now. Ncaa has no jurisdiction. State laws are the only thing regulating this from what I understand. What governing body is ensuring this?
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look up ^^^ at my reply.***
Nov 27, 2022, 11:51 PM
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The logic here is that DJ is our best QB.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:11 AM
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As unbelievable as that might seem, it’s not surprising given our track record of poor QB development at Clemson these last 8 years.
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Re: The logic here is that DJ is our best QB.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:20 AM
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In no world will you ever convince me that Cade at this very moment isn’t a better option than DJ. And in no world will you convince me that Dabo and Streeter believes any different.
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Our track record says that isn't really logical.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:24 AM
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Best comparison is 2010. Kyle Parker was playing timidly almost all season....everyone saw it. In what was not the Clemson Sports Medicine dept's finest moment, a later Rockies medical eval actually showed that KP was playing with undiagnosed (by Clemson) cracked ribs all season.
He looked like a guy playing with cracked ribs and a MLB career on the line----every play where he might take a hit saw him doing everything he could to protect himself at the expense of performance.
After telling us all season that KP was "NFL talent", Dabo finally benched KP during the USC game, and Parker pouted like a little bich on the sideline. Lots of us expected Tajh to start the (lulz) Meineke Bowl but Dabo still didn't put Tajh in until halftime. It was a joke and we all knew it.
Not saying Tajh is all world, but that season, to everyone with eyes, he was a better option than Parker. Logic dictates we've been here before and Dabo gets wrapped around a player to the point performance goes out the window as a differentiator.
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Re: Our track record says that isn't really logical.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:34 AM
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Also named Cole Stoudt the starter over Deshaun Watson.
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Re: Our track record says that isn't really logical.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:59 AM
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I understood that Dr. Pepper pulled their endorsement of him because they had a clause that stated underachievement would end their endorsement. He lost that contract with them after last season. Bojangles, on the other hand, did not have such a clause so they were stuck with him.
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Re: Our track record says that isn't really logical.
Nov 28, 2022, 1:51 AM
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That's insanely true sadly. Tajh turned out to be the best QB in clemson history to that point too. Really helped kick start things for Dabo.
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