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All-In [42196]
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Open poll on the rigged election.
Oct 18, 2016, 10:58 PM
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Have at it:
1. If Trump loses, that means the election was rigged as he predicted (please explain why).
2. I dunno. Maybe it's rigged. I'm suspicious but not certain (please explain why).
3. No. If he loses, he lost fair and square (please explain why).
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Re: Open poll on the rigged election.
Oct 18, 2016, 11:11 PM
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4: Does it really matter why a bat spit crazy reality tv billionaire lost the election due to temper tantrums and intellectual doldrums even tiny little 3 yr old lilmissgrouching is immune too?
Brother, if you think this is bad, wait 4 years. ####### Ryan Lochte will be our nominee and folks will be trying to explain away his dumbassedness.
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Rock Defender [53]
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It'll be Phelps. Lochte doesn't know how to win.
Oct 18, 2016, 11:13 PM
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We need winners not losers. America doesn't win anymore.
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I hate to bite, but dang it I'm gonna. I'll take 2 for
Oct 19, 2016, 12:10 AM
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a thousand, Alex.
The recent video evidence is about as damning(if the filters get this I said "damming") as it gets. Combine that with the FBI files released, the Podesta leaks, the Correct the Record PAC piling on the internet...there is some seriously nefarious stuff going on. I think people are well within their rights and reason to fear the Clinton Machine and its capabilities. There seems to be little doubt that the DNC and media worked with the Clinton campaign to take out Bernie, there is no doubt that the State Department actively tried to influence the FBI on the email scandal to cover Hillary, and there is a mountain of evidence that Hillary has persistently possessed a serious aversion to the truth. Now, whether or not that leads to a rigged election...that's kinda hard. If any organization was capable, it would be the Clintons. I'm not saying Hitler and Nazi blah blah blah, but this kind of activity seriously smacks of 60s and 70s era Soviet politics.
Hillary is going to win in a landslide, but I won't vote for her. The Clinton Machine is so frightening due to its members and what they are willing to do to remain a part of the power structure, due to influence bought by internationals (friendly and unfriendly), and the sheer amount of money and power it possesses. I don't own a tinfoil hat and I haven't built a doomsday bunker, but this kinda stuff is scary. Scary, not so much for me, but for our kids who will inherit what we leave behind.
I'm not sure I can vote for Trump, either, the guy is a mess..or a "disaster" as he likes to say. The only way I could possibly justify it is the hope that a Trump administration would re-align the parties back to some type of common sense. Although, I have to admit, it may polarize them further.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Re: Open poll on the rigged election.
Oct 19, 2016, 12:31 AM
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4. If Donald Trump loses it is his own fault for being undisciplined and chasing the rabbits the DNC let loose instead of staying on message with the issues.
Rigged is the wrong word. I believe it has been an uphill battle for any Republican running for POTUS the last several elections. Some would claim that it goes back further than that. For example, some claim the press hated Reagan in the 80s. I don't remember anything political that far back, so I can't comment.
It is pretty clear when watching CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc. or reading their websites, they MOSTLY treat democrats with kid gloves. Obama has rarely been questioned or second guessed by these news organizations.
In one of the Romney-Obama debates last election, Candy Crawley corrected Romney in one circumstance and only later was it proven that she was wrong. The last debate between Trump and Clinton there was an instance Martha Radditz interrupted Trump to explain why the Obama administration would announce military plans. That isn't her job, that should be Clinton's job.
In years past on this board, the idea that the media is biased has been guffawed. There are still those who do not believe it, but some have shifted and now say, "don't get your news from those sites." That may be well and good for tech savvy people, but what about the people who aren't that savvy. Apparently a large group of people don't even have the means to get a driver's license or a photo I.D. How in the world are they going to be able to parse the news and determine what is true and not.
I still have yet to hear a good explanation for how requiring an I.D. to vote is racist. Every single thing we do that requires security demands we use a photo I.D. except voting. You want to shut up cries of voter fraud, require an I.D. to vote. It is not an unreasonable request.
Add to the slant in the news media, the recent accusations of censorship on Facebook and Twitter. Again, dismissed as yet another conspiracy theory. However, a vast majority of the mind-dead get their news from social media.
Furthermore, there is the establishment (a term I hate) consisting of career politicians, both democrat and republican who have gotten little done. What they have gotten done is viewed by a large percentage of people as harmful to our country. Not only democrats, but republicans have gone to great lengths to undermine Trump. Many people see these republicans as "fat cats" who would prefer Clinton to win because it will continue the status quo and help them keep their POWER. Business as usual.
Rubio was my choice, but I certainly believe our government needs to be overhauled. There are people that think the direction we are going is great. They are good with 20 trillion debt, Obamacare collapsing, and stagnant economic growth. They are more concerned with an ideology that will eventually completely surrender the freedom we have enjoyed for 230 years.
Again, rigged is the wrong word, but this is why a large number of people think the election is rigged.
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Re: Open poll on the rigged election.
Oct 19, 2016, 1:40 AM
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I'll bite as well. It's absolutely rigged. It's been rigged for the last 50 years...(according to an employee of the democratic campaign). I really hope this forces voter ID nationwide. This crap about it being racist is complete and total BS. The action is disgusting, the lack of coverage by the MSM is disgusting, and the idiot America hating liberals who defend it or excuse it or disgusting.
It's funny how all of these "right wing conspiracies" are being validated, either in the Wili leaks or through undercover independent forms of media. Pull your head out of your ### and realize the serious trouble this country is in.
-Interest rates on the rise
-20 Trillion dollar debt
-Disastrous "affordable care act" affordable, lol, and about to get even more "affordable"
-Responsible for majority of instabilty in the Middle East.
-On the verge of serious conflict with Russia and others.
-Highest corporate taxes in the world.
-Corruption from the White House, to the State Dept, DOJ, FBI, IRS, Senate, Congress...
-Increased attacks domestically from Radical Islamist terrorists.
After this sham of an election, we can look forward to the following...
-Higher Interest rates.
-Increased national Debt.
-Increased health care costs.
-Further destabilizing of the Middle East. (and fast and furious weapons deals with terrorist groups)
-Possibly WW3 if we continue to accuse Russia of things we have NO proof of them actually doing.
-Increased taxes on the "wealthy", and everyone else. Self imployment and estate tax especially.
-Increased corruption if you can believe that. Including putting interests of foreign governments ahead of you and I. Why? millions of dollars in donations to the Clinton Foundation...
-Open borders and a 400% increase in Syrian refugees who we know nothing about. That is except that they are Muslim. Despite the large number of Christians being slaughtered in Syria, we don't seem to inclined to help them? I suppose they assume they may end up being rational conservatives.
That witch and everyone associated with her have total distain for all of us. The proof is all around you if you just open your eyes and look. Oh, and there's way more coming.
This government as we know it needs major reform and consequences for ILLEGAL activity. That goes for any and everyone.
http://youtu.be/hDc8PVCvfKs
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Okay, but hold on here.
Oct 19, 2016, 9:16 AM
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It's absolutely rigged. It's been rigged for the last 50 years...(according to an employee of the democratic campaign). I really hope this forces voter ID nationwide. This crap about it being racist is complete and total BS. The action is disgusting, the lack of coverage by the MSM is disgusting, and the idiot America hating liberals who defend it or excuse it or disgusting.
Do I think it's been rigged? Well, yes, but not in the sense that you do. I think both parties have collaborated to keep the status quo. They may battle here and there, but if a real threat to their stronghold came in place, they would band together (see Snowden/NSA or third party candidates). So, the "idiot America-hating liberals" is a pretty ridiculous statement. C'mon. Trump supporters would be America haters too because they've decided to cozy up to our biggest enemy, Russia.
So I don't think the rigging you describe is a liberal/Dem thing. I think it's a big two-party ordeal.
After all, if it's just the Dems rigging it, how do you explain so many Republicans winning office for the last 50 years?
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1, without a doubt.
Oct 19, 2016, 7:15 AM
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The election was rigged because the media made Trump win the primaries and then lose the general.
Also rampant voter fraud. Dead people voted against Trump.
Also I found a website that says the election was rigged.
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3, not even close.
Oct 19, 2016, 7:37 AM
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I believe if we had widespread voter fraud, it would be obvious. Of course we will have some votes cast that are not legitimate; it'd be impossible to totally eliminate. But we're talking about on the order of perhaps a few thousand votes, in a see of tens of millions. It doesn't move the needle in a significant way.
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Oct 19, 2016, 9:17 AM
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There's cheating going on for sure. I doubt its enough to sway the election one way or the other unless a state turns out like Fla where a few hundred decide the state. If Trump loses, he lost. But the media is where the real corruption is, not really the voting fraud.
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It's just rock dumb conspiracy mongering fools
Oct 19, 2016, 9:20 AM
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that think the election system is rigged.
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Oculus Spirit [97734]
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It's not the election that's rigged
Oct 19, 2016, 4:04 PM
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It's far more (worse) than that. So much so that it doesn't need to be rigged.
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Can I take into account that
Oct 19, 2016, 6:35 PM
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Trump is a freaking idiot who is losing to the most corrupt, dishonest Democratic nominee in history?
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