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Re: LOL - Sagarin still has coots and Stanfraud ahead of us.
Nov 17, 2013, 9:38 AM
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Yeah and people say the system is setup for the "end of the season, all the numbers will work"
The only problem is the human voters are influenced by what the computers say. So glad this crap is gone next year.
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Orange Blooded [4789]
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I see Stanfraud ahead of us at that link but the Coots at 17***
Nov 17, 2013, 9:40 AM
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Only the far right column counts for computer formula.***
Nov 17, 2013, 10:06 AM
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CU Guru [1221]
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Look no further than Wisconsin's and Ohio State's
Nov 17, 2013, 9:42 AM
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rankings to see that the Sagarin Poll is a complete joke.
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You mean Wisconsin 20, Ohio St 5?***
Nov 17, 2013, 10:26 AM
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CU Guru [1221]
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I see Wisconsin 5 and Ohio State 8 in that poll.***
Nov 17, 2013, 10:53 AM
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CU Guru [1221]
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I'm not talking about the ELO that the BCS uses, I'm
Nov 17, 2013, 10:59 AM
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merely pointing out that ANY ranking that has a 2 loss team above an undefeated team, when one of the two losses is to the undefeated team is simply terrible (referring to Overall Rating, not ELO).
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Legend [16507]
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Did you actually look at it? CU@10, scar@17 ? But
Nov 17, 2013, 10:18 AM
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you are correct that Stanford is still ahead of us.
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All-TigerNet [13038]
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No, SC is 7 and Clemson 12 in the one that the BCS uses.***
Nov 17, 2013, 10:26 AM
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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The Sagarin poll has always been a joke***
Nov 17, 2013, 10:19 AM
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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what gets me is jeff sagarin states that using the pure elo
Nov 17, 2013, 10:23 AM
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system, only actual wins and losses matter. yet his "system" has some two loss teams ranked higher than us, and our 1 loss is to an undefeated and #2 ranked fsu.
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Geez I'm gonna go to the grave trying to get people to
Nov 17, 2013, 10:27 AM
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understand that there's more to a resume than 1 loss vs 2 losses.
Do you think NIU is better than us?
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All-TigerNet [13038]
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OK, i see what you are saying now, but really his statement
Nov 17, 2013, 10:31 AM
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is just misleading. The ELO does use more than just wins and losses, it still factors in SoS. The only thing it doesn't do is use game scores at all. All wins and losses are weighted equally whether they are by 1 pt or 50 pts.
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