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If everyone cares so much about the money that we are losing

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May 17, 2012, 2:54 PM

to SC and really cares about clemson sports stop BIT(HING and pony up some more donation dont worry about everyone else. Bring iptay back to its beginings and give what ever you can and make clemson better the way it started

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$120 million + over 10-15 years????

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May 17, 2012, 2:57 PM

Let me know when you find it

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Re: $120 million + over 10-15 years????


May 17, 2012, 3:02 PM

we are already spending between 50 a 70 million on new paractice facilities you dont think we can find another 50 to 70 over the next 10-15

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Re: $120 million + over 10-15 years????

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May 17, 2012, 3:20 PM

You think the new practice facilities cost 50 to 70 million? No

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Re: $120 million + over 10-15 years????


May 17, 2012, 3:22 PM

Clemson announces $50 million plan to continue athletic facility improvements

Relesed by clemson itself january of 2011

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That doesn't mean they have raised the money yet


May 17, 2012, 3:44 PM

and a nice big fat pay check from the Big XII certainly wouldn't hurt the fund raising effort.

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Well I dont take vacations anymore bc that money goes to

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May 17, 2012, 3:17 PM

IPTAY. My vacations are 7 saturdays in the Fall when I go to Clemson games. How much more money can I give before I'm allowed to b*tch about it?

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Re: Well I dont take vacations anymore bc that money goes to


May 17, 2012, 3:28 PM

Dont get your shorts in a wad if you would read and comprehend my coments you would notice (Bring iptay back to its beginings and give what ever you can and make clemson better the way it started) I as well use all 7 weekends as vacation and as a family reunion, being stationed overseas and as much as a 14 hour trip everytime i could get to a clemson game i used vacation. There is more that you can do than give money yourself show others the reason that you love clemson so much and get them to donate as well, that was the way IPTAY was started and people gave what they could to help make athletics better and Clemson as a whole got better One team One fight

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Clemson doesnt have the fanbase to make up the kind of

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May 17, 2012, 3:41 PM

deficit that we see between us and SEC schools. We're in a small state, plus we spilt fans with another Big Six school. If Clemson wants more money, they need to look elsewhere other than the fans. If Clemson passes on a chance for more money in another conference, it will hurt their standing with donors IMO. I think people will start to think that our Ath Dept isnt as committed to bringing in money as we are to giving it.

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Re: Clemson doesnt have the fanbase to make up the kind of


May 17, 2012, 3:45 PM

very well said..IMHO the admin MUST look @ other confs to make up the shortfall.. c$$ts had us by $20 mil this year..
no fans can make that up!

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Re: Clemson doesnt have the fanbase to make up the kind of


May 17, 2012, 4:01 PM

You really believe that the 85000 fans that couldn't come up with 35 dollars per game #### I know it would cost me a #### of a lot more than that to go to a Texas game been there done that

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Other fanbases are significantly larger


May 17, 2012, 4:05 PM

Alumni bases too.

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Re: Other fanbases are significantly larger


May 17, 2012, 4:13 PM

Penthouse I agree that other fan bases are larger but the clemson fan bad has gotten larger since I was a kid growing up in Clemson but it has always been a great and get it done what ever it takes to make Clemson better no matter what everyone else is doing

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I get what youre saying, but you need to understand modern


May 17, 2012, 4:19 PM

college athletics. 15yrs ago, there werent 4 FB games/day on 10 different channels and you couldnt find college baseball on TV unless it was the CWS. Now, college athletics is an ever-expanding industry where TV contracts and bowl payouts are through the roof. The SEC alone is making atleast 6 times as much now as it was just 15yrs ago. The deficits between schools' budget are beginning to become too much for fanbases to make up for. 20yrs ago, a fanbase could out-donate another. Now, that doenst cut it.

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Re: Other fanbases are significantly larger


May 17, 2012, 4:22 PM

I agree we have great fans who will do what it takes, but it's almost impossible to compete with big-time TV contracts based purely on donations.

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May 17, 2012, 3:54 PM



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Money is only part of the equation. Being in one of the 4


May 17, 2012, 3:18 PM

big super conferences is the other and the ACC will not be part of that,

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If you have a plan for the money I have a plan...


May 17, 2012, 4:18 PM

for the playoff.

Take two more schools, any two, and we'll have a 16 team conference. If we take teams weak in football that would leave Clemson, FSU and the other 'love football,' schools in the driver's seat for the playoffs.

Each of the four power conference must demand placement of the winner of their conference championship game in order for this to work. Suck it SEC, no two teams for you.

Now, were are we going to get the money to keep up with football's growth over the next 20 years?

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I give plenty, and would give more if I could afford it.


May 17, 2012, 3:26 PM

Here is a better idea...everyone give all you can and let's still join the Big 12!

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Re: I give plenty, and would give more if I could afford it.


May 17, 2012, 3:31 PM

locotiger if we scoot to the big 12 how many away games are you going to be able to go to I hate to say it but i wouldnt go to any i already use what i have to go to games that are close enough to drive to on the weekend. Plus a trip to anyother big 12 school is going to take more than an weekend and there goes any extra vacation time. How many other loyal tigers would that take out of the equation and then what we are know for is wasted.

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The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind,


May 17, 2012, 3:35 PM

...and it aint to directly ask more from the fans. It aint to tell them they need to do more either.

That sounds like something Swofford would say...in fact, it might just be. "Don't expect the ACC to be on par with the SEC or Big XII in TV contracts. Just ask more from your fans."

Are you Swofford?

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Re: The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind,


May 17, 2012, 3:43 PM

The answer may be blowing in the wind and the big12 may be able to give use 5 million a year more but with the travel cost to the fans you are going to pay it one way or another either you help you school out by giving more money to help out or you are going to give it in travel money to games, cost of cable TV or you man up help just your school and support them directly insted of indirectly through TV contracts. It is the same BS that the federal government does on a daily bases with your taxes either help your self or pay to help others.

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May 17, 2012, 3:49 PM

Ive got cable TV already, that so that wouldnt be an added cost. Besides, I'll trade not going to some away games for playing in the Big 12. We'd still have games at FSU and WVU (which is closer than Syr, Pitt, BC, and maybe Mary.) Plus, in the Big12, we'd only have 8 conference games which would allow us to play that extra home game. Right now, there are gonna be years in the ACC where we only get 6 home games instead of our minimum 7. How much do you think that will cost us in home revenue for that one games?

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May 17, 2012, 3:52 PM

How is the loss of traveling fans from other schools going to effect Clemson not just as a school but as a city if we got to the big 12

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Guarantee you attendance will be higher


May 17, 2012, 3:56 PM

with Oklahoma, Texas, OK State, Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, etc coming to town than with Duke, Wake, Syracuse, Pitt, Maryland, BC coming to town. I can only imagine low attendance for Iowa State and maybe K-State/Kansas, and I'd see them still beating the attendance of a Clemson-Duke matchup.

I don't think we're going to the Big12, but I don't see home attendance dropping off at all with a switch.

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May 17, 2012, 4:12 PM



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Since when in Baylor a draw?


May 17, 2012, 4:15 PM

They had a good year this year, but so did BC in '07

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Re: Since when in Baylor a draw?


May 17, 2012, 4:21 PM

Baylor has a following though, BC never has and never will. BC cant compete with the Pats, Celtics, and Red Sox. Even though BC was good in FB when they joined the ACC, they never generated any money for us. They were a school that lost money and took another slice of the money pie from us.

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"Baylor has a following, BC never has and never will"


May 17, 2012, 4:35 PM

Last year's average attendance

BC (4-8)
35,706

Baylor (10-3) w/ a Heisman Trophy winning QB
41,368

And Baylor is a team that won like 20 games over a ten year period. For comparison's sake in '07 BC was 11-3 and had an average attendance of 41,990.

I don't see a difference.

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Youre proving my point, Baylor has been god awful for yrs


May 17, 2012, 4:47 PM

and still brought in over 41,000 last yr. BC finsihed ranked in 04, were top-20 in 05 and 06, then top-10 in 07. They won the Atlantic Div in 07 and 08, and won 8 straight bowl games (longest current natl streak at the time). With all that, BC at their peak in the ACC brought in 42,000 fans. Are you telling me you dont believe Baylor has the potential to surpass them. I could easily see Baylor bringing in 10,000 more fans over the next couple of years.

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I saw their backup QB


May 17, 2012, 4:26 PM

In the game where RGIII got hurt, true freshman who looked really good. They might not be as big of a draw, but I see them as a team with the potential to at least be on the level of a UNC or NC State in terms of draw year-in and year-out.

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IPTAY sits on a ton of money


May 17, 2012, 3:40 PM

and refuses to spend it. Last I heard the # was like $40 million that they wont touch.

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Re: IPTAY sits on a ton of money


May 17, 2012, 3:43 PM

But thats not uncommon. If something were to happen to one of our facilities, say a natural disaster, that money would come in good handy. Im not opposed to us sitting on a reserve like that.

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May 17, 2012, 3:52 PM

I'd understand the AD sitting on that kind of money, but not the booster club. I think people generally donate to IPTAY thinking that their money goes to scholarships and facilities improvements, not into some emergency fund.

To me there is a big difference there, I'm not sure if others see it the same way or not.

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It belongs to IPTAY not Clemson University.


May 17, 2012, 4:21 PM

Anybody that donates to IPTAY and does not understand that couldn't have given enough to complain.

Its about power.

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Re: It belongs to IPTAY not Clemson University.

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May 17, 2012, 4:28 PM

That's what I'm saying. If it's University money I can understand holding a reserve, but funds donated for the betterment of Clemson athletics should be used for the betterment of Clemson athletics.

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Re: If everyone cares so much about the money that we are losing


May 17, 2012, 4:48 PM

Salary and expense caps for coaches. The salary cap works well for NFL. Institutions with great football traditions will continue to thrive and net football profits will zoom.

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I dont like salary caps. It goes against capitalism. Its a


May 17, 2012, 4:50 PM

cheap way to give crappy schools a chance to compete.

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Re: I dont like salary caps. It goes against capitalism. Its a


May 17, 2012, 5:32 PM

Is the NFL capitalist? You have numerous limits in Nascar to prevent teams from overspending on engines, materials, and tires.

Put limits in and the greater profits will flow to the colleges instead of the coaches. Maybe even lower ticket prices.

I enjoyed Clemson the best when we were paying Danny less than $100K/year.

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Not enough money there to make it up.***


May 17, 2012, 5:39 PM



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