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All-In [42204]
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So, counting some election numbers...
Nov 12, 2020, 2:47 PM
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Trump won WI, PA, and MI in 2016 by a combined 77,744 votes. Hillary conceded that night, there weren't a bunch of lawsuits, Trumpies declared it a domination and the will of the American people.
Biden wins WI, PA, and MI this year by a combined 220,641, and now it's a rigged, stolen election worthy of several lawsuits and a president who refuses to concede.
Makes sense.
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Legend [19933]
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Remind us how many millions of mail-in ballots were sent in 2016
Nov 12, 2020, 2:51 PM
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You might be on to something.
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All-In [42204]
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Mail-in ballots are legal ballots so that's irrelevant.***
Nov 12, 2020, 2:54 PM
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CU Medallion [60063]
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Just in MI, there were
Nov 12, 2020, 2:56 PM
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500,000 absentee ballots sent to people that no longer reside at that address or are deceased. This is fact, its not even disputed. So lets talk about that first. Even if a 1/4 of them were used and sent in for count, that could swing it.
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Um, no. First, they were all returned.
Nov 12, 2020, 3:01 PM
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That's how they got the count. And those were APPLICATIONS, not the ballots. You can't vote with the application.
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Who requested those 500k ballots?
Nov 12, 2020, 3:02 PM
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Were they returned?
You keep repeating this as fact, but I can't find anything to substantiate it.
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Here's the story
Nov 12, 2020, 3:03 PM
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They were actually the applications, and they were returned.
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Yes, absentee ballot applications.
Nov 12, 2020, 4:17 PM
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Not absentee ballots.
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How many times do you think we have to repeat it?***
Nov 12, 2020, 5:04 PM
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Re: Just in MI, there were
Nov 13, 2020, 10:54 AM
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Manac,
Link please.
If this is so undisputed, then help educate us poor ignorants.
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Let's take a trip down memory lane...
Nov 12, 2020, 2:56 PM
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2012 general election
On election night in 2012, when President Barack Obama was reelected, Trump said that the election was a "total sham" and a "travesty," while also making the claim that the United States is "not a democracy" after Obama secured his victory.
Trump even wrote on Twitter, "We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!"
2016 primary and general election
When he ran to become the Republican Party nominee in 2016, he attempted to cast doubt on the election process. Trump said he did not lose the Iowa caucuses in 2016 to then candidate Sen. Ted Cruz, because he "stole it."
"Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!" Trump wrote on Twitter at the time.
He also wrote, "Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified."
In October 2016, just weeks before the general election, Trump wanted to cast doubt on the results by tweeting, "The election is absolutely being rigged by the dishonest and distorted media pushing Crooked Hillary - but also at many polling places - SAD," without providing any evidence for the claim.
Even after the election ended and it was clear that Clinton had lost and conceded victory to Trump, the president didn't stop lamenting over the election he had won. He quickly made the claim that he also won the popular vote over Clinton, which is something that did not happen.
"In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally," said Trump.
2020 general election
Fast forward to today, Trump took to his favorite platform, just moments before major media outlets had projected Biden the winner in this year's election, and falsely tweeted, "I WON THIS ELECTION, BY A LOT!"
That tweet was flagged by Twitter because Trump was not declared the victor, and because for months since his rally on Aug. 17 in Oshkosh, Wisconsin -- when he famously said, "The only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged" -- Trump has been attempting to cast doubt on the American electoral process.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-longstanding-history-calling-elections-rigged-doesnt-results/story?id=74126926
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Hmmm... apparently...
Nov 12, 2020, 3:02 PM
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Trump is just a crybaby loser when an election doesn't go the way he wants, and some people here are too dumb to understand that's the only reason he's disputing this. Is that we're saying?
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Re: Hmmm... apparently...
Nov 12, 2020, 3:08 PM
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I don't care if Biden's a crook and Trump's a liar (well yes, but no)....
... AMERICA deserves a secure & reliable National Election Process.
GET IT!
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Re: Hmmm... apparently...
Nov 13, 2020, 11:01 AM
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Next,
What would you do to make the election system more secure than it was this cycle ??
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Re: Hmmm... apparently...
Nov 13, 2020, 11:00 AM
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Cat,
I think it is worse than that. i do not think trump is capable of understanding that he lost something - anything. He sees his bankruptcies and huge debt as winning (so much winning). he cannot process the fact that the people voted him out of office.
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Legend [15216]
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It's insane that it's allowed to mail in a ballot in 2020.
Nov 12, 2020, 3:11 PM
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I feel shady mailing a check to a company in this day and age.
There's got to be a better, more efficient, more secure way to cast a vote outside of snail-mail.
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Orange Blooded [4365]
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Re: It's insane that it's allowed to mail in a ballot in 2020.
Nov 13, 2020, 11:05 AM
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Caddie,
We are all ears ??
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Re: So, counting some election numbers...
Nov 12, 2020, 3:14 PM
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Stop this. It's just going to make it hurt worse when Trump ends up winning in the Supreme Court.
---- caveat: I really don't believe this, but enjoy ribbing you.
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Re: So, counting some election numbers...
Nov 12, 2020, 4:01 PM
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You have a better chance on winning lotto. It's over.
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Re: So, counting some election numbers...
Nov 12, 2020, 4:09 PM
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Re: So, counting some election numbers...
Nov 12, 2020, 5:06 PM
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Plenty of people here were saying it before you arrived and started throwing poo around.
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