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UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 2:21 PM
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The last time UGA won a national championship, Clemson won it the next year.
All I can say is "watch out", here it comes again!
Go Tigers!
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 2:27 PM
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DJ…
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 2:57 PM
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IF DJ hadn't thrown a TD pass for UGA, their season could have been different than it was!!!
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 5:33 PM
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IF DJ hadn't thrown a TD pass for UGA, their season could have been different than it was!!!
Nah, without the Pick-6, we punch it in there at the end instead of taking a Knee at the 10 yard line and it ends up 10-3 - just like it was.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 8:20 PM
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Yeah, sure. Ha!!!
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That doesn't even make sense.
Jul 28, 2022, 8:27 PM
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We were driving to take the lead, and "punching it in there at the end" is merely an active imagination, and even if that came to fruition it doesn't mean you win.
We lost because of QB play, period.
By the same token you beat Bama when they had no quality receivers left. Otherwise they win just like the first time.
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Re: That doesn't even make sense.
Jul 29, 2022, 8:32 AM
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We were driving to take the lead, and "punching it in there at the end" is merely an active imagination, and even if that came to fruition it doesn't mean you win.
We lost because of QB play, period.
By the same token you beat Bama when they had no quality receivers left. Otherwise they win just like the first time.
Jesus how lucky was Georgia last year? Wow! Everything worked out for them! I agree with you
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Re: That doesn't even make sense.
Jul 29, 2022, 10:59 AM
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Jesus how lucky was Georgia last year? Wow! Everything worked out for them! I agree with you
Oh yeah, Georgia was so lucky we didn't have Dominick Blaylock or Arik Gilbert for the entire season, nor did we have Arian Smith after the 2nd game, or George Pickens until the CFP - and he was very limited at that. Many consider those 4 to have been our best 4 receivers last year. Injuries are part of the game. We won 14 games without Metchie and Williams while Bama couldn't win a single one. Whah whah whah, what a bunch of crybabies. LOL!
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Still making sense.
Jul 29, 2022, 7:30 PM
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We had guys out of the game too. None of that changes the fact that if we had functional QB play, then we win. Cole Stoudt had enough talent to have beaten UGA last year with the supporting cast and defensive effort we had. Injuries had no bearing on our game.
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Jul 29, 2022, 7:31 PM
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Re: Still making sense.
Jul 29, 2022, 9:57 PM
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Dude, are you trying to be serious here? "What if's" and Couldda/shouldda's are not facts. I mean really, are you saying that if you had better players and/or they had played a better game then y'all would have won? Well duh. That's kind of how this whole sports thing works. The real FACT is that Georgia had the better players and they played the better game. That's why they won.
And it wasn't just your QB. Your OL was abused all game (5 of the 7 sacks the D got to DJ within 2.7 to 2.8 seconds). Your RBs were pedestrian at best (Lyn-J had 1 good run, but Shipley & Pace each had 7 yards on 4 carries). Your WRs were largely no shows except for Ngata (Shipley did have a good 1st down catch early). Your D played well until our last drive when they were gassed. You can tell yourself differently if it helps you sleep better, but that's how that game played out. That's not trash talk, that's not "what if", that's just reality.
Now the question is: if you want to win that NC that Tiger68 started the thread with, will Dabo get all of that fixed in 1 year with a new OC and two new Co-DCs? Maybe he can and maybe he can't. Either way, I'd like to see my Dawgs face your Tigers in the CFP to find out.
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Incorrect.
Jul 29, 2022, 11:02 PM
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I didn't cite, "what if's" and Couldda/shouldda's". I never said anything about "if we had better players and/or if 'they' had played a better game then we would have won". You didn't win because you had better players, and you certainly didn't play better. That's entirely incorrect. You won because our QB didn't play up to his potential, and he gifted you the game winning score with a 74 yard INT while we were driving to take the lead. You had one scoring drive. Your defense was stout, but with any sort of functional QB to get you guys off the line scrimmage, it changes the entire narrative. We actually averaged more yards per play than you, so spare me your "we had better players" BS. It was ONE guy, period, and he just so happened to be the most important player on the field. His 50% completion rate was 17 percentage points lower than every other year of his football life. That wasn't because you stopped him, it was because of his inability to perform up to his capability. The same QB led us to a mere 14 points and had 50 less passing yards against Georgia Tech two weeks later - was that because Tech had better players? No, the kid was mentally lost and in terrible shape, and we had no one else. That's the very reason we lost to UGA, not because of what you did or better players or whatever other nonsense you imagine.
I'd LOVE to play UGA with our QB situation rectified, and it would be even worse for you considering the amount of attrition you're facing. It really wouldn't be much of a game, and you're delusional of you think UGA is going to make the playoffs with this rebuilt team. You have THREE defensive starters back, THREE, and defense is the SOLE reason you were where in the position you were in last year.
Like I said, with a pedestrian QB last season we beat you, and without Bama having anyone to throw to in the 2nd half of the natty, they whip you the same way they did when all things were equal the first time. I hope you enjoyed your time in the 41-year ray of sunshine. Kirby will Kirby as usual, mark it down.
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Re: Incorrect.
Jul 30, 2022, 12:10 AM
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LOL! You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You said, and I quote: "if we had functional QB play, then we win". That is a "what if". That's how "what if's" work. And you said your "QB didn't play to his potential". Well, if your guys played poorly and our guys didn't, that's the same thing as saying our guys played better. Stop being a moron, you're making all the good Clemson fans look bad. We absolutely had better players and they absolutely played better. That's why we won. End of story. Get over it.
And no, you were not "driving to take the lead". You were the ones who were gifted the ball at the 50 yard line on a muffed punt (which was reviewed and the call stood - not confirmed, btw). You got a whopping ONE first down before the pick 6. O-N-E. That ain't "driving to take the lead". I mean give me a freaking break. You drove inside our 20 only once the whole game, we drove it inside your 20 3 times. And no you did not average more yards per play. You had 180 yards on 60 plays (37 pass, 23 rush). That's 3.0 yards per play. We had 256 yards on 61 plays (30 pass, 31 rush). That's 4.2 yards per play. More yards per play with better balance run/pass.
And go ahead and keep telling yourself our defense is going to fall apart. You obviously don't know that much about our team. They won't be quite as good as last year, but we'll have a top 15-20 defense nationally, and our offense will very likely be improved. Maybe we make the CFP, maybe we don't. We'll certainly be in the hunt. But if we do make it, and we face Clemson, we will be favored, and we will win.
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Re: That doesn't even make sense.
Jul 29, 2022, 9:51 AM
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Yes, Clemson lost because of QB play. He doesn't appear to be very good. He certainly wasn't helped by UGA sacking him 900 times. Maybe this is the year he becomes Peyton Manning. Guess we'll know soon enough.
Bama rolls out one blue chip WR after another on to the field (just like they do most positions). If those guys weren't prepared or, like Clemson's QB, were overrated, that isn't UGA problem and it certainly doesn't mean they aren't "quality."
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Well at least you didn't deny Clemson would have had little
Jul 29, 2022, 8:25 PM
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issue winning the game with a stable QB.
Some of the 7 sacks were simply great plays by great players (aren't most of them gone?), but the bulk of the sacks were due to a mentally constricted QB who lacked pocket presence, stood flat-footed, and showed none of the mobility or skill he did in 2020. He was afraid to let go of the ball. He stood like a statue focused on primary receivers and never went through any of his progressions. He stood there and took those most of those sacks.
As a true freshman, he broke records in Death Valley and at Notre Dame, exhibiting the 5-star talent that had him ranked as the #1 PRO QB in the country coming into Clemson. He threw for 10,500 yards, with 127 TDs and only 11 INTs in his entire HS career. In limited action as a true freshman he broke those records along with a 67% completion rate, nearly 1,000 yards, 5 TDs, and no INTs. That's 11,500 yards, 132 TDs, and 11 INTs during a HS career and true freshman season at Clemson.
He had a difficult family situation during the offseason, he went back to California and he got terribly out of shape dealing with things. His mental and physical game was affected coming into 2021, and he faltered under the lights in his first game back. He wasn't "overrated".. he didn't play to his exhibited potential, period.
Clemson lost to UGA because of it. UGA was obviously a good team, but you wouldn't have beaten us with a functional QB. Just like Alabama would have beaten you like they did (with ease) the first time.. if they weren't down to receivers who wouldn't have playing had the starter situation not gotten so wrecked.
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Ask Louisville about "punching it in" to win (1st & 2)***
Jul 31, 2022, 2:49 PM
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 6:11 PM
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IF DJ hadn't thrown a TD pass for UGA, their season could have been different than it was!!!
That int was on Ross
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 29, 2022, 8:53 AM
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Dabo has said this too, but it doesn’t fit the agenda of some on this site.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 29, 2022, 9:13 AM
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Dabo has said this too, but it doesn’t fit the agenda of some on this site.
Question for you. Do you have any doubt in your mind that assuming the offense remains generally healthy all year, that DJU can lead this program back to the playoffs where they belong? I ask this taking into account his terrible performance during 2021 with a healthy and unhealthy group of players.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 29, 2022, 9:22 AM
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Until we see him play this year there should be some doubt but I will always have more hope for the best outcome until it is no longer possible. My comment was for the people who put all the blame for last year on DJ and didn’t see the other things that contributed to our down year. Those that are intent on calling him Big Stinko and trash and things like that not recognizing that last year’s results were still a team effort where everyone contributed both good and bad with a lot of injuries thrown in.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 29, 2022, 9:34 AM
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So your answer is no. He was 97th in the country and dead last in the ACC last year in QBR. He did stink. I have no reason to think he will improve until he does. If he does look like a winning QB, I’ll be here to admit I was wrong and give him props.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 29, 2022, 9:52 AM
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Ok. Looking forward to it.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 29, 2022, 12:07 PM
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I think this team is good enough to lead DJ to the playoffs. However, I suspect that, when the time comes to step up to a high level against elite competition, he may fall short. Hope I'm wrong but this feels like a 2017 Kelly B season to me. Unless...Cade makes it impossible to not start him over DJ. They have a few tune up games to start the season to figure it out so fingers crossed.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 29, 2022, 10:19 AM
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Watch the replay. The route may have been poorly run but DJ never looks anywhere but to Ross. Watch the safety, Smith. He sees it coming a mile away.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 29, 2022, 11:11 AM
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Watch the replay. The route may have been poorly run but DJ never looks anywhere but to Ross. Watch the safety, Smith. He sees it coming a mile away.
Absolutely correct. Also, Nakobe Dean blitzed and had come off his block and was about to knock DJ into next week - yet again. What Dabo doesn't want to say is that your OL just was not prepared for the different blitzes, stunts, and coverages we brought in that game.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 2:32 PM
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Georgia got lucky. It took a fluke Clemson year and a broken Alabama team to make that miracle happen.
Clemson is going to play Alabama for the National Title this year.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 2:37 PM
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Watch how lucky Georgia gets again this season.
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If you had better coaches I would like your chances.........
Jul 28, 2022, 2:39 PM
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y'all can recruit but I don't like your chances against well coached teams.
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Re: If you had better coaches I would like your chances.........
Jul 28, 2022, 2:43 PM
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Care to bet on that Dawg ?
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 2:44 PM
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You lost too much on defense. You'll breeze through that cake walk of the SEC East then get pummeled by Alabama in the SECCG. Will probably make the playoffs because of your record and one loss but you ain't winning it again this season.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 2:53 PM
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For sure the defense takes a step back but will championship worthy. Not on the level of Clemson, but good enough to win it all. The offense will be better. First (and only) challenge on the way to the playoff is Bama.
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If your team has that same mentality...
Jul 28, 2022, 3:09 PM
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they're liable to walk out of the Mercedes Dome on 9/3 with a loss to Oregon.
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Joke of the the year....
Jul 28, 2022, 3:10 PM
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"Watch out for them coots!!" hahahaha 
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 2:58 PM
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Yep, they got lucky that we didn't show back up on their schedule!!!
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Let's wager mutt!
Jul 28, 2022, 8:29 PM
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Thinking you're gonna be as good as last year is hilarious.
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I like your optimism...
Jul 28, 2022, 2:51 PM
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but in order for that to occur, we'll need to see significant improvement from the QB, the WR's and the OL.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 28, 2022, 6:32 PM
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I'm on record as saying I think Clemson will rebound this year and make it to the CFP. So here's a serious question: Would you rather play UGA in the CFP, or have UGA not make it and you play someone else?
If you play UGA, that'd give you an opportunity to avenge last year's loss, however it would still mean UGA was pretty good, making it to the CFP themselves. Or would you rather UGA just not make the CFP?
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You won't make the playoffs.
Jul 28, 2022, 8:32 PM
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Bet me.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 29, 2022, 9:01 AM
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We don’t care who we play. Just tell us when and where and we’ll be there. That’s what Dabo says and I’m All In with that. Clemson doesn’t hide or try to manipulate their schedule like the SEC in 2020. The CFP will probably try to insure an SEC team in the championship game if y’all make it to the playoffs by matching us against Bama in the first game. And if GA makes it they will lose to Ocry0 St. For Clemson to win we will most likely have to beat Bama and Ocry0 St again. Bring it on.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 29, 2022, 12:04 PM
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I'm on record as saying I think Clemson will rebound this year and make it to the CFP. So here's a serious question: Would you rather play UGA in the CFP, or have UGA not make it and you play someone else?
If you play UGA, that'd give you an opportunity to avenge last year's loss, however it would still mean UGA was pretty good, making it to the CFP themselves. Or would you rather UGA just not make the CFP?
I’d rather play UGA. Alabama has a QB that scares me and you don’t. Look at last year. Clemson wins that game with any QB in the pathetic ACC besides DJ. If you look at playoff era and the teams that one it all, they have a lot in common, stud QBs. Except for one, UGa last year. And that was because of down years from Clemson, Bama and Ohio St. But you did what you were supposed to do and take advantage of it and get it done. Actually Ohio St and their offense scares me more than Georgia. So I’d rather play you than Bama or OSU all day.
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Approximately 166,000,000 people in the US...
Jul 28, 2022, 2:52 PM
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were not alive in 1980. 
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Butt, how many of those were also not dead yet, either?
Jul 28, 2022, 5:59 PM
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Now you are getting into "Gleams in Daddy's Eyes", and all sorts of stuffing like that!
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BOHICA
Jul 28, 2022, 8:08 PM
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Bend over, here it comes again.
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Can't argue with those stats ;)***
Jul 28, 2022, 8:22 PM
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I like it!
Jul 28, 2022, 8:33 PM
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Getting back to the original post..,
Jul 29, 2022, 9:43 AM
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We were also coming off a “disappointing” year when we won the National Championship in 1980.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 29, 2022, 8:35 PM
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Yep Cade get Natty his first year like Lawrence
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 30, 2022, 6:52 AM
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That’s a tough question! I would love to avenge last year’s loss to GA but would also love to see them miss the playoffs altogether. I would have liked to see us play them with Trevor last year. Even though the offensive line wasn’t great he could have worked around that much better than DJ did.
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Re: UGA - Clemson Theory
Jul 30, 2022, 9:02 AM
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Looking back on the UGA game last year, I thought both defenses played lights out. We clearly had issues with QB, WR and OL all year, and UGA exposed that early and often. Luckily, their offense wasn’t a juggernaut either that early in the season. That game could have gone either way, unfortunately it went UGA’s. Anyone saying UGA was “lucky” to beat us is full of crap and delusional, they owned the 4th quarter and we didn’t own any of them.
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