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So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test
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So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test


Jun 23, 2022, 9:44 AM

was Ostarine, which just happens to be the same thing that got three of our players suspended awhile back. And, like those three, Nuk claims no knowledge of how it got into his system.

Maybe they should all get together and look for some common drugnominators.

:(

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Re: So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test


Jun 23, 2022, 9:57 AM

Bill Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman.

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He didn't inhale either. Of course he didn't know the


Jun 23, 2022, 10:11 AM

definition of the word "is" either..........

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I don't know if he ever backed off the "Inhale" deal. Butt,


Jun 23, 2022, 10:27 AM

years after the fact, I believe he did finally admit to having more than cigar sex with Monica Lewinsky. The fact that it didn't again become a major news story is just a testament to the Slickness of Teflon Bill. Unlike Monica's blue dress, nothing ever seemed to stick to him.

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Are you really surprised?


Jun 23, 2022, 11:10 AM

If you are a Democrat you can do pretty much anything because the media, including big tech and social media, with the exception of Fox News, are going to bury it! And the left really doesn’t care what you do. People want to burn Trump at the stake for simply talking about grabbing a woman whereas if it’s a Democrat you can molest children for decades, you can kill people, you can rape women, and it’s perfectly OK. That has always been the difference between Republicans and Democrats. This stuff is epidemic on the left, but people on the right don’t put up with this crap. That’s why typically when a Republican gets caught doing something even people on the right want the guy in jail. But if it’s a democrat we’ll probably never hear about it.

Bill Clinton committed treason and sold some of our top defense technology to the Chinese and the Chinese donated money to the Clinton/Gore campaign with Hillary Clinton right in the middle. And of course that’s exactly what the Clinton foundation was, a nonprofit set up so foreign countries could donate hundreds of millions of dollars to the Clintons for influence on American policy. A nonprofit that after decades suddenly dried up and disappeared after Trump beat Clinton. But of course, it was obvious to others around the world that the Clintons were done. So no need to keep giving them money when they no longer have control. Although it’s the Clintons or the Obamas currently running the country because it #### sure is not Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.

The Kennedys were corrupt, The Clintons are corrupt and treasonous, and the Bidens are corrupt and completely incompetent. But the most incompetent and treasonous thing in America is the mainstream media! But people on the left including from the media are starting to speak out which is why Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald are now constantly being attacked from the left.

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You ever thought about getting a life?***


Jun 23, 2022, 11:13 AM



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Interesting comment.


Jun 23, 2022, 11:35 AM

First, I don’t post on here very regularly because I do have a life and I’m very busy.

Second, if I was posting far left propaganda like the brainwashed crap you post you wouldn’t be complaining.

Third, if I was on here all day almost every day like nearly half of the people that post on this forum, would you say get a life? Because there are clearly a lot of people on this board that don’t have a life because they are here every day posting.

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You took a post about PEDs and turned it into


Jun 23, 2022, 12:17 PM

a diatribe with inane conspiracy theories and random political ranting. Who's the brainwashed one?

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You’re not very bright


Jun 23, 2022, 6:04 PM

I commented about a comment regarding Bill Clinton. Otherwise I would not have posted anything political.

Furthermore, everything I posted was factual and my motives for posting were obvious, but you bring up I’m brainwashed because I posted. Brainwashing has to do with what you believe, not why I decided to post it.

Still getting those vaccine boosters?

Still wearing a mask everywhere you go looking like an idiot?

And you think I’m brainwashed? lmao!

So again, you’re not very bright.

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You spend a lot more time on Tigernet than I do.


Jun 23, 2022, 6:06 PM [ in reply to You ever thought about getting a life?*** ]

Brainwashed retarded progressive meet mirror!

Maybe I should say pot meet kettle? But then you would probably label me a racist! Because pots and kettles are often black.

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Everything is not political - and you won't change the


Jun 23, 2022, 11:25 AM [ in reply to Are you really surprised? ]

system.

I liked your post about Curtis Strange - know why ? - cause it wasn't all political and crap.


You know EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN is a self-serving, me-first, ego maniac, right ?


I feel sorry for you. My ex-FIL retired, starting watching news all the time - became a sullen maniac and everything was a political deal for him.


And he used to be awesome.


Sad to watch it happen.


G O T I G E R S ! ! !

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


If you think the left and the right are the same you’re not paying attention.


Jun 23, 2022, 11:32 AM

The problem with the Republicans is the 1/3 of the party known as the establishment wing which is full of neocons.

But I agreed in principle which is why I have always been in favor of no special treatment for politicians and I have always been a staunch advocate for term limits. We also need serious campaign finance reform.

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You just made my point again - good Lord.***


Jun 23, 2022, 12:34 PM



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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Actually I did not.


Jun 23, 2022, 6:13 PM

Agreeing in principal doesn’t mean that I don’t think there can still be some things that can be done. I’m still fighting the good fight and thanks to the Democrats proving under Biden what total warmongers they are and now that Roe v. Wade is about to be banished as it should have been long ago, a lot of those neocons are going back to the left where they belong. Now that we’re getting some of the trash out of the republican when we take over in November & 2024 we’ll finally start getting some real change!

FYI the Supreme Court did a slam dunk on New York today and New Yorkers and those in some other states will now be allowed to have concealed carry as they rightfully should.

The first and second amendment, really the entire bill of rights, does not give us those rights. Those rights are naturally ours. The Bill of Rights protects us from the government infringing on those rights!

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Everything should not be political.


Jun 23, 2022, 11:47 AM [ in reply to Everything is not political - and you won't change the ]

But the left will politicize anything they can use for political advantage or propaganda and brainwashing.

Sports and Covid are perfect examples.

Even things like agriculture on a local level have huge impact that you’re not aware of because of ridiculous political intervention, almost always from the left. For example why is the federal government telling people they can’t buy raw milk or steaks from their neighbor who raises beef cattle? That was only made illegal with the expansion of the federal government by the left in the 1960s. And it’s completely unconstitutional because as long as it’s not commerce being conducted across state lines the federal government has no constitutional authority. This is why our food system is so screwed up and completely controlled by only 4 corporations and why we’re dealing with the food issues we are because of Covid and supply chain issues.

There was recently a lawsuit where a federal judge ruled that people don’t have a constitutional right to what they eat. A federal judge known to be a progressive activist. Think about that for a minute. Federal judges are now saying you as an American have no constitutional right to what goes into your body whether it’s food or an injection. Call me crazy but that sounds like communism. That is fascism and authoritarianism.

So I hate to break it to you but right now in America everything is politics. Because of the left and the Democrats and the corrupt mainstream media.

And actually it is people on the local level fighting back that are changing the system. You should Google Joel Salatin. Watch some videos with him on YouTube. Because you are currently willfully ignorant to what’s going on.


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Anything else to add? On the edge of my seat over here.


Jun 23, 2022, 12:18 PM

Such compelling rhetoric, and I NEED MORE!

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AND my point again. No - not googling anything from you.


Jun 23, 2022, 12:36 PM [ in reply to Everything should not be political. ]

Google THE EARTH IS FLAT - and you will find INDISPUTABLE PROOF the earth is flat.


Have a nice day.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


So then everything on the Internet is a lie?


Jun 23, 2022, 6:25 PM

Nothing on the Internet is true?

Only an idiot would think something like that and did you know the Internet has pretty much made libraries obsolete.

Of course there’s plenty of nonsense on the Internet that’s why you get your information from reliable and credible sources. People that have been known to tell the truth for a long time. As well as places where you can find actual documents. And people like project veritas where you get to see idiots on the left saying it in their own words.

When you don’t Google things that I point out it’s because you don’t want to face the trut. then again most of the Libtards on Tiger net are true believers and you won’t wake up until your face is being crushed by the boot of Fascism. Per the incredibly insightful and predictive words of Yuri Bezmenov.

FYI CNN that news source that you’ve been believing for years and people on the left think is so virtuous and honest, their new owner is getting rid of most of the people you’ve been believing, and he said we’re not having any more BS and we’re going back to real news.

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Re: Everything should not be political.


Jun 24, 2022, 2:09 AM [ in reply to Everything should not be political. ]

You truly sound like an imbecile.

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I’ll put my IQ and education against yours any day.


Jun 24, 2022, 10:04 PM

I’ll put my knowledge of economics, history, political science, etc. etc. against you any day.

I’ve been calling out idiots on the left on this website for years. All they ever do is try and insult me and discredit me. If I’m so unhinged if I’m so wrong it would be easy to discredit me by proving me wrong. But they never do because they can’t. Because I am right and the facts are on my side as is the data as is the science as it is the history.

You don’t spend years mocking someone and trying to discredit them by calling them unhinged or racist if you could shut them up with the facts. If they were right and I was wrong they would’ve proved me wrong and shut me up a long time ago.

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You’re hilarious.


Jun 23, 2022, 6:18 PM [ in reply to Everything is not political - and you won't change the ]

First, I couldn’t give a #### how you feel about or think about me or anything I post.

Second, I rarely watch Fox News.

Most of my information comes from the left. Credible honest objective principled people on the left. People like Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald and Brett Weinstein and a couple dozen more that the left are now calling right wing etc. because they don’t like when people on the left point out the hypocrisy and the ########. Because most of the people on the left are brainwashed. Even Bill Maher and people like Jimmy Dore, lifelong lefties, routinely talk about how the Democrats have become a cult.

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Re: Are you really surprised?


Jun 23, 2022, 12:06 PM [ in reply to Are you really surprised? ]

Trump is old news. Move on. No one gives a crap.

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Tell that to MSNBC, CNN, Democrats in Congress,


Jun 23, 2022, 6:27 PM

ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, my Apple news feed, they’re all obsessed with Trump. I see articles and stories and hear of them talking nonstop about Trump because they’re avoiding Biden and the trash that his administration is and the shape that the economy in the country is in right now. Biden is garbage so they avoid Biden and still obsess on Trump.

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Comments like this are why I keep coming here.


Jun 23, 2022, 12:23 PM [ in reply to Are you really surprised? ]

Seeing the looney from some people is so entertaining, it’s like a car wreck I can’t turn away from.

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the weirdest part is I'm pretty sure he's serious***


Jun 23, 2022, 12:37 PM



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No doubt - look at him being serious.***


Jun 23, 2022, 12:39 PM



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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Oh he 100% is***


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Re: Are you really surprised?


Jun 23, 2022, 12:34 PM [ in reply to Are you really surprised? ]

You’re right. Trump is the poster child for all that’s great in America. Mafia excluded of course!

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Amazing! Republicans have never done anything corrupt


Jun 23, 2022, 6:33 PM [ in reply to Are you really surprised? ]

Except
Funding a coup in Panama
The entire Nixon administration
Iran Contral scandal
Wars for oil
Abandoning troops in Afghanistan
Ignoring the emoluments clause and lining pockets with taxpayer money
Fomenting a violent insurrection

Both sides are corrupt, both sides have done plenty, don’t be so blind

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I agree which is one of the reasons I’m a radical libertarian.


Jun 24, 2022, 10:13 PM

But if you think it’s equal you need to have your head examined. There are corrupt Republicans, most of them are neocons. There are corrupt Republicans, but the republican party is nowhere near as corrupt as the democratic party. And almost all of the Democrats are not just corrupt but flat out evil and anti-American. One party is trying to destroy this country with identity politics lies and propaganda. the other is trying to save it. If you can’t see that I’m sorry I can’t help you. And millions and millions of Democrats agree with me which is why they voted for Trump and even more have now switched sides and will help the Republicans crush the Democrats this November and in 2024. Get on YouTube and watch the hundreds probably more like thousands at this point of sincere videos by women, blacks, homosexuals, Hispanics, even transgender people, talking about how the Democrats are insane and how they were brainwashed their entire life until one little thing opened their eyes and they started actually doing their homework rather than believing everything they were told by the mainstream media. Watch videos of liberals and progressives that wanted to go to a Trump rally to see how crazy everyone was and come to find out they were accepted with open arms and realized that it’s the Republicans that are far more tolerant far more accepting than the left. Especially when it comes to intellectual thought and diversity. All of those people are now Republicans. All of them are voting Republican this November and in 2024.

The problem with the republican party is the 1/3 known as the establishment wing which is nothing but a bunch of neocons. Liberals that started voting Republican because of basically being pro life and pro war. But now that the Democrats are the warmongers and Roe v. Wade is being overthrown they’re moving back to the left. They can’t be gone fast enough. Purging the party of neocons will solve most of the problems in the Republican Party.


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What is a 'woman'?


Jun 23, 2022, 12:30 PM [ in reply to He didn't inhale either. Of course he didn't know the ]

"I can't .... not in this context. I’m not a biologist."

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Re: So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test


Jun 23, 2022, 10:31 AM [ in reply to Re: So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test ]

Valley Boy said:

Bill Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman.


That’s right. Bill said I didn’t have sex with that woman. She had sex with me.

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Re: So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test


Jun 23, 2022, 10:46 AM [ in reply to Re: So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test ]

POTFD ??????

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Re: So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test


Jun 23, 2022, 10:22 PM [ in reply to Re: So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test ]

He did not inhale either....

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Re: So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test


Jun 23, 2022, 10:25 AM

Osterine is a common contaminant in other vitamin supplements. It shows up at very low levels but zero is the limit. Some manufacturers have poor practices or buy their raw materials from poor manufacturers. Its very possible that Nuk is telling the truth.

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Let's see what math has to say. Nuk's playing weight is 212


Jun 23, 2022, 10:56 AM

pounds. He has stated that the test showed 0.1% Ostarine. (Out of HIS mouth, per his most recent story where he says he is still investigating how it could have gotten into his system by accident.)

Quick search of scientific articles says a 120 lb person will have ~10%, or 12 lbs worth of blood in them.

212 lbs x 453.592 grams/lb x 0.1% / 100(converting % to decimal) /10(converting 10% of weight to decimal) = 9.6 grams of Ostarine in the body.

Now, lets compare that to a common drug, Aspirin. The adult dose of Aspirin is a max of 600 milligrams every four hours, total of four doses a day. There are 1000 milligrams in a gram. How much Aspirin is that?

600 x 4 x 1 gram / 1000 = 2.4 grams total in 24 hours.

Now, Aspirin, like most drugs, does not remain in the body. It gets metabolized, and eventually the waste products go out of the body. In the case of Aspirin, this happens within 24 hours, as you can take that maximum doses on consecutive days, etc.

BUTT, from what I have read, Ostarine chemically "binds" to receptors in the body, and contributes to faster muscle growth. This is why it is a banned "performance enhancing" substance. But, it does not stay forever. Just like nearly all drugs, if you stop taking it, it will be flushed from your body in a comparatively short time.

So, back to the 9.6 grams we arrived at per Nuk's story as what his test showed. I will tell you right now, I think he got a decimal wrong, or something. 9.6 grams is a HUGE amount to show up on a test. It is literally the equivalent of 4 DAYS worth of Aspirin doses, ALL STAYING IN THE BODY AT ONCE!

Nuk may be innocent, but if so, the FIRST thing he needs to do is fire his investigators, because I am all but certain they misread the test results, to begin with. More likely that the number was 0.1 ppm (Parts per MILLION), not 0.1%.

Note: I edited my original calculations to account for only the blood volume, not total body weight.


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Re: So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test


Jun 23, 2022, 10:35 AM

Most likely explanation is always that the athlete was looking for an advantage, usually an advantage via way of quicker recovery from an injury.

But, I assisted an athlete with an appeal to NCAA (not NFL level, but same general rules apply). Kid took a protein supplement that we actually sent off for testing and it came back positive for ostarine compounds which were not listed in the ingredients. NCAA didn't care, said he didn't do what he needed via way of going through the school for approval of any supplements (keep in mind, this is a small school with no real program for nutrition). No kid will ever get it right if he/she unknowingly ingests a banned substance, it's just too high of a burden.

It is assumed you know what you're putting in your body. If you take a supplement, you better know what's in it. Problem is, only way to know for sure is to make it yourself...... Even if one jug of muscle builder is ok, the next jug may have gotten contaminated on the production line.

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Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test


Jun 23, 2022, 11:06 AM

So where does an old timer sign up for a dosage of Ostarine? Can Nuk’s trainer hook me up?

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Re: Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test


Jun 23, 2022, 11:19 AM

Ostarine is not illegal. You can get it online easily. https://lineonenutrition.com/product/osta-1-pills/


It is against NCAA, NFL, etc. rules.

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I really don’t care about these things


Jun 23, 2022, 11:29 AM

I think professional athletes should be able to do whatever they want as long as the drugs are not illegal. Doctors prescribe steroids every day. If a professional athlete wants to take steroids or other drugs and they are legal and it’s done under the supervision of a doctor I really don’t see what’s wrong with it.

But it absolutely positively should be illegal in high school and college. That being said, testing technology today is off the charts and there are banned substances in over the counter products and prescription drugs that get detected even at extremely low levels, which is why there needs to be reform and common sense in these regulations. Zero tolerance policies are stupid. There need to be minimal levels set for some of these drugs that we know show up in trace amounts in over-the-counter products or because of contamination. We know at what level it takes to be performance-enhancing and most of the time in drug testing the level found is well under the amount needed to enhance performance.

This is just another reason IMO that the big schools need to say adios to the NCAA. Not only would it be great for football and basketball, but I really think baseball and the other Olympic sports would benefit the most from kicking the NCAA to the curb. And rule number one for this new organization should be zero politics involved! College sports should not be used to influence how people democratically vote for policy. And I would love to see how much better sports other than football and basketball could develop without the archaic and ridiculous NCAA regulations.

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Re: I really don’t care about these things


Jun 23, 2022, 12:41 PM

I totally agree with your assessment. In the near future the NCAA must have a complete “Do Over” or totally abolished.

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Re: So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test


Jun 23, 2022, 1:51 PM



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Re: So, Nuk Hopkins says the PED that showed up on his drug test


Jun 23, 2022, 2:11 PM

I choose to believe Nuk.
He's one of us.

I also choose to believe Big Dex.
He's one of us too.

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Only a fool would blindly trust anyone these days.


Jun 23, 2022, 5:59 PM

My sister, my parents, a few true friends going back over 40 years, and if I were involved in a long-term relationship with a proven track record of trust then she would be believed also, but other than that I don’t trust anyone! Not blindly.

And I #### sure don’t trust a bunch of athletes just because they went to the same university that I did!

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Sorry I ever posted this. Had no idea a Lunge political


Jun 23, 2022, 6:10 PM

fight would breakout on a football related post.

:(

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lol you chimed in yourself with Bill Clinton comments.


Jun 23, 2022, 6:31 PM

Just sayin’

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You could’ve T - mailed Crump & asked him to delete the post


Jun 24, 2022, 10:29 PM [ in reply to Sorry I ever posted this. Had no idea a Lunge political ]

He can make the entire thing go away - I had to do the same thing a few days ago

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