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Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 1, 2020, 7:02 PM
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I get that the penalty made it more unlikely to convert, but what does a 5-pt lead instead of 4 do for you late in the 4th? You have to try to make it 6, even after being backed up.
Does anyone have an explanation?
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I have what I think is the real explanation. Dabo was so hot
Nov 1, 2020, 7:04 PM
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he was about to blow a head gasket at that point, and just said screw it, kick the thing. And then, in tune with the rest of the day, Potter boinked it.
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Bingo!***
Nov 1, 2020, 7:36 PM
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I think that is the answer, but I don't see that as a "good" explanation
Nov 1, 2020, 10:03 PM
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I definitely view this as a bad strategic decision. I was surprised at the time, and I'm also surprised he wasn't asked about it.
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Lol***
Nov 2, 2020, 7:55 AM
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Bottom line is, even great Head Coaches are human beings,
Nov 2, 2020, 8:55 AM
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and sometimes the situation presented is just so absurd, human beings get p!ssed off, and just say, to Heyall with it, just do the normal thing and kick the fripping ball through the uprights. But, naturally, since this situation was so absurd, Halloween comes into play and Potter (The Foot Who Lived) boinks that kick off the upright anyway. It was the perfect ending to a perfectly bizarre sequence of events.
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Re: Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 1, 2020, 7:04 PM
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Dabo’s ‘frustration’?
(Sorry ‘76, I must’ve been typing/posting as you were - but I would’ve just ????ed you instead of answering had I seen it first)
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Re: Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 1, 2020, 7:12 PM
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Tuff to watch a meltdown after such a good drive.
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Re: Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 1, 2020, 7:34 PM
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That was the worse thing I have seen from Clemson in a long time. Used 2 time outs for an extra point then miss it to boot. Not a good look for sure.
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Re: Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 1, 2020, 7:21 PM
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The distance
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Re: Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 1, 2020, 10:11 PM
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Can’t be that as he was already committed to go for it from that distance.
Should have just accepted the delay of game and saved the 2nd timeout if he was just going to kick it anyway.
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Re: Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 1, 2020, 7:27 PM
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It's very unlikely this would happen but stranger things have. Five would get us into OT in the event BC kicked a field goal and got us for a safety. So 5 is better than 4 but clearly 6 is better than 5.
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The 5 point lead would have allowed us to win
Nov 1, 2020, 7:30 PM
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on a FG if BC had scored a TD and extra point instead of just tying them if the 2-point conversion failed. I 'm not a math whiz or a coach but I would have kicked from the beginning for that reason.
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Re: The 5 point lead would have allowed us to win
Nov 1, 2020, 7:40 PM
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I agree.
Going for 2 seemed more like an exercise in game situations more than that 'extra' point being meaningful. If you're up by 5 instead of 4, your opponent needs a TD either way, but you could then win it with a FG.
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Re: The 5 point lead would have allowed us to win
Nov 1, 2020, 7:47 PM
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Should have kicked for a 4 point lead in the first place. That way they would have to score a TD to take the lead.
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what some are you are forgetting is BC would 100% go for 2 had they scored a TD
Nov 1, 2020, 9:59 PM
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In a scenario where Clemson had a 5-pt lead instead of a 4-pt lead, and BC scored a TD to go up 1, they would no doubt go for 2. You guys are forgetting that BC would play it different.
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No concern going for 2.. but taking
Nov 2, 2020, 7:58 AM
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The delay of game penalty and just kicked a longer EP seems smarter. 2 timeouts are more important than the 1 point.
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Re: Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 1, 2020, 7:44 PM
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We were out of timeouts? Lol
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Re: Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 1, 2020, 7:59 PM
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First of all, I don’t think he should’ve gone for two in the 3rd qtr. NFL card (which every coach uses says 4th qtr only). Second IF we had kicked in the 3rd, we would need 2 to go up by 7 which would make more sense. The card is confusing about being up by 4 - some say go for 2, others say kick. Dabo has in the past gone to 2 to make it a 6 point lead. Five of course does little for you. Once he took the second timeout, he should definitely have gone for 2.
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Re: Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 1, 2020, 8:06 PM
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To avoid a pick 2
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Too early to go for it
Nov 1, 2020, 10:02 PM
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just like the time before. Too unlikely to convert from that distance after penalties. Missed PAT was karma for the bad decisions leading up to that.
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Re: Too early to go for it
Nov 2, 2020, 8:11 AM
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The entire fiasco reminded me of Ken Hatfield.
When it was 34-28, did you wish you had that point?
While the math can be argued, I would have simply kicked it to begin with.
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Re: Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 2, 2020, 8:18 AM
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I'll ask it a different way. Why go for two at all?
Not end of game situation. Lots of time left in the 4th quarter.
Up by 4, if you kick an xpt, up by 5. Other team gets a TD, you are down by two. FG wins it for you.
Up by 4, if you make two pt conversion, up by 6. Still - a TD puts you behind and you nedd FG to win.
Up by 4, if you miss it, still up by 4. They score, and you need a FG to tie.
Every team has a "chart" telling them when to go for 2, when to go for 1. My chart says, "Go for 1, get up by 5."
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Didn't want to waste the LAST timeout....***
Nov 2, 2020, 8:47 AM
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LOL! YOu could tell Dabo really wanted to call that one too,
Nov 2, 2020, 8:57 AM
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just to explain to his team how absurd their failures had been already. But, he did maintain that little bit of composure.
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Re: Does anyone have a good explanation why Clemson didn't still go for 2 on the miss PAT?
Nov 2, 2020, 9:16 AM
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The worst part for me was watching us burn the 2nd timeout. If you're going to kick, just take a delay penalty.
In any case, it worked out. I hope we get some guys back this week.
Beat ND!
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