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Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 11:35 AM
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The pure fact that PC hung around with us last night during the game is uncalled for. Brad Brownell is the worst coach in the ACC. It is time to suck it up and move onto another coach. Judge Keller can go with BB too. But folks we are in the superior league of College Basketball and barely making a name for ourselves. Heck President Biden could coach the team better than Brad Brownell. Clemson nation deserves better than Brad Brownell.
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Here's and extension ----- Pack your bags
Nov 10, 2021, 11:39 AM
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doesn't seem logical
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 11:44 AM
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The team kind of beat the crud out of PC in the second half. The team has had 1 bad half. They might suck this year, but we might want to wait and see.
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well, GT, Uva and Pitt lost to bad teams
Nov 10, 2021, 11:47 AM
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so it could be worse
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Re: well, GT, Uva and Pitt lost to bad teams
Nov 10, 2021, 2:54 PM
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^ was just about to make mention of this.
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 11:47 AM
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Brad is not perfect, but he is not the worst. Did you see Pitt get trounced by the Citadel. Capel is up there. Also, UVA and Ga Tech lost to Miami Oh and Navy respectfully.
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Bout to pass out with this level of sensibility***
Nov 10, 2021, 12:56 PM
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If you want to be takes seriously
Nov 10, 2021, 11:59 AM
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don't make stupid statements like President Biden could coach the team better than Brad Brownell. Even if I were inclined to agree with you, I would disregard everything you said after reading that statement.
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Re: If you want to be takes seriously
Nov 10, 2021, 12:21 PM
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No basketball fan but Brownell could do a much better job leading this country than that ### hat Brandon. He can't even wipe his own ### much less coach basketball.He prefers the rec league girls ball ages 2 -12 anyway.
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^^^loves Trump's tush^^^^***
Nov 10, 2021, 4:00 PM
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^^^Suffers from TDS^^^***
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I like JK. JK’s posts are a never ending source of comedy.
Nov 10, 2021, 12:00 PM
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I especially love it when JK bashes the football staff (with a decade of national prominence under their belts) only to defend Brownell (a decade of still being under .500 in conference play) with a vengeance. Anyway no I’ll will to JK or his buddy Brownell but Brownell is not a good coach. Dabo on the other hand is an elite coach regardless of what has happened or will happen this year. We have a decade of data support this. Should Brownell go or stay depends on what the university wants from its basketball program. If the answer is to have an elite program like we do in football then obviously Brownell needs to go. If he were half the coach that Purnell and Barnes were he could make his demands on the university for money, facilities or whatever else he needed or move on like they did. Instead, 10 years later, here we are. The program is worse than when Purnell left. On the other hand the football program is in a completely different universe than when Bowden left but JK feels the need to pile it on the football staff while shielding Brownell from any and all criticism. Lol
Anyway I do hope Brownell has a great year but history leads me to believe that will not happen.
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Not sure why you are bringing up Dabo and football in a
Nov 10, 2021, 2:52 PM
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basketball thread. Some of you just can't allow your Dabo hero worship to remain appropriately compartmentalized.
Yes, Dabo is an elite coach. Also, water is wet. Any other obvious statements you would like to make?
As for Brownell, he's not perfect, but he's shown an ability to overachieve. Choose your metric, whether it's Clemson's basketball history, Clemson's level of program support relative to other ACC members, or preseason predictions, and Brownell almost always surpasses expectations.
As I've said before, if we want to be better at basketball, the answer isn't firing the coach who overachieves. It is giving that coach more of what is needed, such as:
-A budget for assistant coaches that is above the national average. -Additional support staff to help with recruiting. -More consistent fan support.
To Radakovich's credit, the facilities have been a great help (but let's not forget that Brad did much of that fundraising himself). Continuing to support Brad with extensions has also been great. But as we know from building our football program, it takes a lot more than that.
Again, Brad isn't perfect. I'm happy to criticize him when warranted. For example, I don't think he was as prepared as he should've been for PC's big guards to press last night. However, he made excellent halftime adjustments that completely turned the game around. That's what good coaches do.
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Re: Not sure why you are bringing up Dabo and football in a
Nov 10, 2021, 8:28 PM
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dont you know you are not allowed to speak sensibly on this board ?
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All-In [40777]
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Lol.
Nov 11, 2021, 4:52 AM
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Classic JK response.
If Brownell wins enough he can make demands for assistants, facilities, etc., have them met or someone will offer him a better a job and he will be gone. That’s what happens when you overachieve.
BTW Dabo is just a man but he sure knows how to build a program. Others not so much.
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Success doesn't give one the right to demand anything.
Nov 11, 2021, 3:04 PM
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However, Brad and any other coach is within their rights to request additional funding for their program.
It's ultimately up to the athletic director and board of trustees to decide whether the funds requested are available, and if so, if they will be granted for that purpose.
It's been covered here before, but our annual basketball expenses are way below many other ACC programs. If you think that's simply because Brownell doesn't care and hasn't asked, you're not giving him enough credit.
The issue is when Clemson will decide to spend more on basketball. I'd like to assume that the funds just aren't there, but to do that, I'd have to concede that there were not superfluous expenses on other sports and you and I both know that isn't the case.
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It doesn't make financial sense...
Nov 11, 2021, 3:54 PM
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that's the bottom line.
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Every time you offer your thoughts…
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Nov 11, 2021, 5:02 AM
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You make it more and more unbelievable that this horrid, downtrodden program has won an ACC championship. And that was back when other teams like Duke and UNC were actually really good.
Also kind of amazing that a couple of other coaches had the stands packed and students camping out for tickets on a regular basis. Gosh, I guess people were just really bored back then and had absolutely nothing else to do.
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Clemson basketball has never won an ACC championship.
Nov 11, 2021, 3:12 PM
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You do realize that ACC championships are based on winning the ACC Tournament, right?
I'm assuming you are referring to the 1990 ACC regular season, when we finished #1. That was a great season, but that isn't a championship.
Even if you want to call it a championship, it was the one season out of the 100+ seasons we have had when we finished first in the regular season.
By your logic, Wake Forest and Duke should expect to be elite in football. Wake won the ACC in 2006, and Duke won the ACC in 1989. Right?
I'm not really sure what your point is in bringing up that one "championship" is though.
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I’m well aware of what happened in 1990.
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Nov 12, 2021, 7:27 AM
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That’s an ACC Championship.
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Re: Not sure why you are bringing up Dabo and football in a
Nov 11, 2021, 8:52 AM
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Thank you, Judge for your points. If only the Nances on here would go coach their church, school or city league BB teams, we could have meaningfull insight and share some positive information.
And on that note, "Thank You Veterans for your selfless commitment and service to the values of a Great Country".
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Good idea. Can I get paid $2.5 Million/year to coach my church team?
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Nov 12, 2021, 12:46 PM
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If so, I’m ALL IN.
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 12:00 PM
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Do they have an away game coming up or something?***
Nov 10, 2021, 12:06 PM
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 12:17 PM
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Hey, I hear that the K will be available at the end of the season - super laid back guy with natural hair - let’s get him! JK taking up for BB just shows that he’s a decent human, compared to the Bama grads on here. Barnes hasn’t proven to be a world beater, nor has Oliver. How about Shaka? Gone too. Hoops is so different from football, that the comparisons just don’t work. Until the future NBA players are culled to their own league, the one and done guys are taking the sure bet and playing for the magical 5 programs that assure big bucks. So our options are to start our own pole dancing major like Louisville got away with, or to continue the Clemson way with an occasional good surprise. NIL has passed Clemson by and we really have nothing to offer a top prospect - they want money and lots of it right now - KY, UNC, Duke are set up for it, we are not. That’s on Dabo as much as BB.
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 12:25 PM
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That's not completely true. Danny Ford is growing legal Marijuana. The I-95 corridor is the busiest interstate system for trafficking drugs in the US. Are you picking up what I am putting down? Welcome cash flow....
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 12:20 PM
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For crying out loud, it was the first game of the season. We won.
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“For crying out loud we won.”
Nov 10, 2021, 1:07 PM
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That’s what I’ve wanted to tell you so many times this year. You of ALL people insisting that others not to complain. WOW
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Self-awareness
Nov 10, 2021, 1:44 PM
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Not a Lefty strong suit.
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Oooooh the irony***
Nov 10, 2021, 5:02 PM
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Oculus Spirit [77062]
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Your struggle continues
Nov 10, 2021, 5:04 PM
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old man.
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell. I'll help.
Nov 10, 2021, 12:21 PM
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This season is going to be a disaster, IMO. Just a forecast.
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 12:33 PM
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You're not a favorite on T-Net I see, so while you're down, this would be a good time for Brownell to come in and kick?? you around . Hear ??, take a swim with the the ????!!!
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 12:36 PM
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I am not here to make friends. I am here to speak truth. This Basketball team is in disarray plain and simple. Some of y'all need to swallow your pride at understand Brad Brownell has got to go. But y'all aren't ready for that conversation.
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 1:46 PM
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And I’ll bet your pulse is low because you tell it like it is?
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You need help T-net can’t provide***
Nov 10, 2021, 12:40 PM
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Re: You need help T-net can’t provide***
Nov 10, 2021, 12:45 PM
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All I am saying is Brad Brownell is not a ACC Basketball Coach. We are the laughing stock of ACC Basketball.
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I wouldn't say we are the "laughing" stock of the ACC. We
Nov 10, 2021, 12:47 PM
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are primary known for football. This team will improve as the season goes on. We'll be okay at the end.
Try to be more positive. You'll feel better.
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Oculus Spirit [77062]
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Agreed, I get the CBB hate
Nov 10, 2021, 1:01 PM
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but just like our football program, we don’t know what is going on behind the scenes. I’m not saying everything is perfect, but there is a reason he was extended again and it wasn’t because DRAD is stupid.
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Re: What does that make the 9 teams that finished below us
Nov 10, 2021, 3:27 PM
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Like Duke, UNC, Loserville, Syracuse, NC State ... and then the normal
Imagine if 9 of 13 VT conference games were against teams above .500. If Clemson played VT's schedule that "cancelled" they game at UVA, FSU twice at NC State, at UVA, at LofL I think. We would have been 11-2 or better with their schedule of sub .500 teams at home...
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Re: You need help T-net can’t provide***
Nov 10, 2021, 3:21 PM
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All I am saying is Brad Brownell is not a ACC Basketball Coach. We are the laughing stock of ACC Basketball.
I did not know the Gamecocks were still in the ACC?.. #TheMoreyouKnow...
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Re: You need help T-net can’t provide***
Nov 11, 2021, 8:50 AM
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All I am saying is Brad Brownell is not a ACC Basketball Coach. We are the laughing stock of ACC Basketball.
Did you know that over the last 4 years, we have the 5th best ACC record? If we are the laughing stock, why does it make the other 10 schools.
What a laughable comment and really shows how looney these BB baskets are.
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WOW!! This post received a TU??!!!
Nov 10, 2021, 12:49 PM
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 1:20 PM
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User Logo ClemsonAlum1987 Rock Defender [67] TigerPulse: 31% Posts: 74 Joined: 9/9/21 Pack your bags Brownell [1] Nov 10, 2021, 11:35 AM Reply
The pure fact that PC hung around with us last night during the game is uncalled for. Brad Brownell is the worst coach in the ACC. It is time to suck it up and move onto another coach. Judge Keller can go with BB too. But folks we are in the superior league of College Basketball and barely making a name for ourselves. Heck President Biden could coach the team better than Brad Brownell. Clemson nation deserves better than Brad Brownell.
so are they firing the pitt coach, the uva coach, the ga tech coach. those 3 actually lost to lowly opponents. you f'ing pond scum should just slither back under your rock until at least friday.
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This is a low energy post***
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 1:55 PM
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Glad you’re not our AD.
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Let’s expect the Tigers to win the ACC
Nov 10, 2021, 2:04 PM
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And.. get behind this championship run to the big Tourney in basketball! Let’s have some faith in these kids, they can do it!
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Tell 'em u6c coot. No one knows losing better than you.
Nov 10, 2021, 2:14 PM
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1969.
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 3:56 PM
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Please don’t start the Fire Brad Brownell this early. I believe some of you have your minds made up that Brad must go before the season even starts.
Try supporting Coach Brownell and the team and post positive comments for a change. Who knows it could have a positive affect on both HC BB and the team.
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 4:54 PM
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Not so fast. It's early, you may be right but not now. Let's see what happens- a long way to go.
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 6:21 PM
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What's really wrong with your bald coach . In all seriousnes , I truly hope it's nothing serious .
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 6:22 PM
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I hope no one took my previous post wrong .
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 9:49 PM
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While I had hoped for a better first half, I did like the second half. With them abusing our height challenged guards - it would have been nice to have Trapp. (btw - he scored 20 in their win last night). If interested - Prosper who went to Marquette is also a starter and had 8 points and 7 boards. Still don’t know why he left.
Those bringing up losses like UVA - would you really not swap BB for Tony B? We have who we have this year, we know what to expect and not expect after 12 years. Let’s try and be positive. Easier said than done. Low expectations- nobody is predicting us to make the tournament. Sad, but, maybe, just maybe - we catch fire and shock the world.
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Actually, UVa is worse
Nov 10, 2021, 11:03 PM
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Did you know Navy beat them Tuesday night ? Pitiful. Basketball is a funny game, sometimes the ball doesn't want to go through that round thing off the floor ...
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Re: Actually, UVa is worse
Nov 12, 2021, 7:48 AM
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Did you know Navy beat them Tuesday night ? Pitiful. Basketball is a funny game, sometimes the ball doesn't want to go through that round thing off the floor ...
Yeah, one game? lol. trust me UVa will get get it together. Can we finally beat them? Seems like we stink up the place with them. What is it 15 straight losses.
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 10, 2021, 11:31 PM
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I'm certainly no fan of Brownell but to say Biden could a better job as coach is complete rubbish.
Biden is a dementia-laden elderly man who likely has no clue what day of the week it is and could not be trusted with something as important as to be the head basketball coach at Clemson University.
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Re: Pack your bags Brownell
Nov 11, 2021, 8:48 AM
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Any of CU coaches deserve better that such fractional posts. I hope the Tigers have a great BB season.
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