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Trump Releases '95 tax return
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Trump Releases '95 tax return


Oct 2, 2016, 12:17 PM

He lost 916 million. I want a guy that is successful in business, not a loser.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-02/trump-had-916-million-loss-in-95-cutting-tax-bills-nyt-says

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"Releases."


Oct 2, 2016, 12:18 PM

Trump is threatening to sue the NY Times for printing it.

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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
- Jonathan Swift


Re: "Releases."


Oct 2, 2016, 12:21 PM

I am just glad the rest of the tax payers were not left holding the bag on this.

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New York Times knows about taxes


Oct 2, 2016, 12:57 PM

Just not paying them


http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/10/02/new-york-times-paid-no-taxes-2014/

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The real story is that he didn't destroy subpoenaed evidence***


Oct 2, 2016, 1:50 PM



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Re: New York Times knows about taxes


Oct 2, 2016, 1:52 PM [ in reply to New York Times knows about taxes ]

Is the New York Times running for president?

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What does taxes have to do with running for President?***


Oct 2, 2016, 4:51 PM



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do you take deduction on your taxes?***


Oct 2, 2016, 5:38 PM [ in reply to Re: New York Times knows about taxes ]



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when did he release this***


Oct 2, 2016, 2:39 PM



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This is a Schedule C business return?


Oct 2, 2016, 9:06 PM

So his business lost money. So what?

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Re: This is a Schedule C business return?


Oct 2, 2016, 10:52 PM

it only matters when trump used loss carryforwards
not when the clintons used them
or maybe trumps were more than theirs so they are particularly evil

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Re: This is a Schedule C business return?


Oct 2, 2016, 11:42 PM

clintons have been paying 31% in federal taxes going back 14 years. You can not complain about the deficit, then turn around and brag how smart you are for not paying taxes.

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Uh-huh. Trump didn't sell his position as Sec of State for $***


Oct 3, 2016, 6:17 AM



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Re: Uh-huh. Trump didn't sell his position as Sec of State for $***


Oct 3, 2016, 1:11 PM

changing the topic?

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To the contrary. You brought up what the Clintons pay, and


Oct 3, 2016, 1:19 PM

I pointed out that it was dirty money from the get-go. Giving speeches for exorbitant fees that are paid for influence, not the speeches.

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this statement is so idiotic it deserves comment...


Oct 3, 2016, 8:56 AM [ in reply to Re: This is a Schedule C business return? ]

seriously...what the eff are you talking about?

Do you pay more federal income taxes than you are required to?

Businesses are allowed to carry forward losses to offset profits in subsequent years. Did you really not know that? Is it a surprise to you? Are you suggesting that Trump shouldn't have done that or that by filing his taxes the same way every other person/business does that he somehow voids his right to discuss matters of federal fiscal responsibility?

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Re: this statement is so idiotic it deserves comment...


Oct 3, 2016, 10:45 AM

Lol. I think some are implying that claiming a business loss is a deliberate avoidance of some make believe responsibility or obligation to lowering our national debt which are assertions fabricated by the very group/types that voted for the slime that ballooned the federal debt in the first place. Too funny.

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Re: this statement is so idiotic it deserves comment...


Oct 3, 2016, 1:11 PM [ in reply to this statement is so idiotic it deserves comment... ]

the clintons do

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please explain***


Oct 3, 2016, 2:55 PM



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Re: please explain***


Oct 3, 2016, 7:39 PM

I am sure if they hired the right attorney, they could get that effective rate down to 12%. But they didn't. Now where were with those who complain about he deficit, but practice avoidance?

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"you are sure"? That is horse sheet....


Oct 4, 2016, 8:46 AM

are you saying the Clintons prepared the own returns and didn't have accountants and atty's involved? You don't really believe that do you?

And what kind of fancy atty do you need to know you get to carry forward business losses?

You are so friggin clueless it hurts.

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Re: This is a Schedule C business return?


Oct 3, 2016, 7:15 AM [ in reply to Re: This is a Schedule C business return? ]

I had a business loss in one year that was large enough to nullify the following 4 profitable years, for tax purposes. Guess that makes me a bad guy.

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Were you mainly losing other people's money


Oct 3, 2016, 1:21 PM

That's what Trump was doing.

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It's called risk, and these investors knew them.***


Oct 3, 2016, 1:23 PM



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There are only 2 ways to finance a business..


Oct 3, 2016, 3:51 PM [ in reply to Were you mainly losing other people's money ]

Debt or Equity. In either case it's someone else's money, and it's at risk...always.

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What if you personally make money


Oct 3, 2016, 4:39 PM

While your business and investors losing their shirts. I guess that's also good business?

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what are you talking about specifically?***


Oct 3, 2016, 4:45 PM



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Trump paying himself millions


Oct 3, 2016, 4:47 PM

From failing businesses he knows are going down the tubes. Since he rarely if ever personally guarantees loans, he has very little skin in the game. He makes money either way. I guess it's a nice gig if you can get it.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/15/investing/donald-trump-bankrupt-casino/


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That was a public company, no?....


Oct 3, 2016, 5:07 PM

If so, he didn't "pay himself millions". He was paid just like all other executives of public companies are paid....salaries and bonuses set by the Board of Directors...which are elected by the stock holders.

And how are you mixing guaranteed loads with a public company?

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A little more complicated than that...


Oct 3, 2016, 7:26 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html

If you're into the reading. Donald basically used the public casino as a piggie bank.

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Re: A little more complicated than that...


Oct 3, 2016, 7:35 PM

It's all private money, who cares.

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Yeah, I've read that before...


Oct 4, 2016, 8:52 AM [ in reply to A little more complicated than that... ]

how can you say on one hand he had very little of his own money in it, yet on the other he was the majority shareholder of the public company and chairman of the BOD?

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Re: What if you personally make money


Oct 3, 2016, 5:10 PM [ in reply to What if you personally make money ]

I've seen much worse. His Board of Directors approved all of if. There are too many examples of things like this but...see Wells Fargo Scandal for the latest.

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Are "you guys" really this uninformed?...


Oct 3, 2016, 8:51 AM

It is somehow a surprise to you that Trump lost this much money in 1995? Him almost going bankrupt in the 1990's market crash was the whole impetus for his "Art of a Comeback" book, wasn't it?

Why is this news at all to anyone paying attention?

And it's also curious to me how people are discussing the ability to business to carry forward losses on tax returns. Did people not realize this was done in business? Do they think it's wrong? Are they really that clueless? All very confusing to me that people so seemingly engaged or so passionate with their opinions can be so ignorant on fairly simple issues.

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So did Obama's IRS send it to the NY Times?***


Oct 3, 2016, 12:22 PM



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He WINS a lot more then loses


Oct 3, 2016, 4:00 PM

ALSO, the tax laws are such that IF you experience a loss in a given year, that loss can be spread out over a period years. Thus, the net effect is the following years taxes are low or none. Its the tax code. Blame the tax code, not Trump. Tax Code is written to encourage entrepreneurship, and one of the incentives is the write-off rule.

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but he lost in the biggest game he played


Oct 4, 2016, 10:32 AM

the casino and hotel company went belly up twice.. lost $1.7 Billion in 14 years


Trump is not quite the businessman he claims to be... and he depended on his father's money for years

http://fortune.com/2016/03/31/donald-trump-debt-trump-hotels-casinos-atlantic-city/

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So is this better or worse than those that game the welfare


Oct 3, 2016, 7:38 PM

system?

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