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Legend [16342]
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Probably Germones, but in 3 of our last 4 losses
Feb 11, 2016, 7:35 PM
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dating back two full seasons, we've given up a KO return for a TD.
Looking forward to how we grow in that area next to complete the circle.
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yeP..still smarting watching our Natty go bye with that Bammer Boy running it in!
Feb 11, 2016, 7:40 PM
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GeeZ, that hurt much more than that big ole Georgia runner taking it to the house in '14!
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Re: yeP..still smarting watching our Natty go bye with that Bammer Boy running it in!
Feb 11, 2016, 7:58 PM
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I still have not been able to rewatch the national champ game.
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Negative... No Kickoff Returned for TD against FSU in '14***
Feb 11, 2016, 9:50 PM
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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clemson gave up 1[?] kor for td in '14 to gurley and 3 in
Feb 11, 2016, 8:03 PM
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2015, but only lost 1 game.
it was bad this year, no doubt.
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Re: clemson gave up 1[?] kor for td in '14 to gurley and 3 in
Feb 11, 2016, 8:15 PM
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So you're saying fire Danny Pearman?
If so, save me a seat, I'm on board
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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no, i'm saying i want a top 25 kor defense back, ~this staff
Feb 11, 2016, 8:22 PM
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has done it 4 times.
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Was Andre Powell on the staff any of those years?
Feb 11, 2016, 8:33 PM
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My recollection is that special teams were very good under him.
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yes and he was fired for being lazy.***
Feb 11, 2016, 8:36 PM
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perhaps they underestimated his contribution?***
Feb 11, 2016, 9:03 PM
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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no, he was fired for not making his contribution and that's
Feb 11, 2016, 9:20 PM
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the point, dabo won't ##### around.
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Re: clemson gave up 1[?] kor for td in '14 to gurley and 3 in
Feb 11, 2016, 8:30 PM
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It had everything to do with the kicker, in 2014 we had a kicker who could kick it high and deep. In 2015 our best kickoff kicker missed the first 4 games and the last 2 games. I think you'll see our kicker make a lot of improvement in this area over the off season, remember he didn't even think he'd be part of the team this time last year.
Also for those of you who keep blaming Danny Pearman he is not the special teams coach!!!!!! Clemson has several coaches who work with the special teams Brent Venables, Marion Hobby, Mike Reed, and Danny Pearman. This is one of the 3 phases of the team, and it's a team issue not one coaches issue.
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after the change in rules before the '12 season, touch backs
Feb 11, 2016, 8:51 PM
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doubled. it's a big part of it, but most return numbers don't include those, only actual.
if you remember teams started flirting with kicking high & short in hopes of pinning offenses deep inside the 25. it was playing with fire, but coaches out smart themselves at times i guess.
agree with you overall, pinion was sorely missed on kos for touch backs alone.
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Re: clemson gave up 1[?] kor for td in '14 to gurley and 3 in
Feb 11, 2016, 8:53 PM
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It also has ALOT to do with coverage, lane assignment(s), and ball awareness! Everyone on TigerNet seems to think "kick it all the way to end zone" fixes the problem but that's a rarity, especially 100% of the time.
I wish we'd hire someone like Joe Lorig, the special teams coordinator from Memphis. Last year they allowed an average of 15.5 yards on kickoffs, a total of 342 yards, and a long of 26.3 yards.
Clemson, on the other hand, allowed an average of 24.5 yards on kickoffs, a whopping total of 1764 yards, and a long of 117! Completely unacceptable. Western Kentucky is the only team to allow more yards in 2015 on kickoffs.
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a long of 117, that's got to be some kind of record?***
Feb 11, 2016, 9:22 PM
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Re: a long of 117, that's got to be some kind of record?***
Feb 11, 2016, 9:36 PM
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71 returns is a lot because of our offense and lack of touch backs, so the 1764 total would be affected by fewer returns and of course the 3 horrendous returns for TD account for ~3-4 yards of the average depending.
it needs to be fixed. it's been good before.
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Re: Probably Germones, but in 3 of our last 4 losses
Feb 11, 2016, 8:35 PM
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Really makes you wonder why the issue wasn't addressed earlier....
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Re: Probably Germones, but in 3 of our last 4 losses
Feb 11, 2016, 8:50 PM
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I will bet you whatever ,. It will be addressed now ,. How many times you think Dabo has heard it .,?????
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FSU in 2014?
Feb 11, 2016, 8:48 PM
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Did we give up a kick return?
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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no.***
Feb 11, 2016, 8:51 PM
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I dont remember one vs GT either...***
Feb 11, 2016, 9:00 PM
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no.***
Feb 11, 2016, 9:22 PM
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Thats what i thought
Feb 11, 2016, 9:30 PM
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OP has the wrong
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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wrong is such a strong word.***
Feb 11, 2016, 9:37 PM
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Legend [16342]
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Yes. OP does has the wrong. Only 2 of the 4 losses had KO
Feb 12, 2016, 1:19 PM
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TD returns. I shall endeavor to be more accurate next time out.
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Re: Probably Germones, but in 3 of our last 4 losses
Feb 11, 2016, 11:46 PM
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We need to get that fixed before the first kickoff this fall .
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