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Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 5:22 PM

If you want to be LGBT, no problem, have at it.

But quit shoving your agenda down everybody's throat.

You don't need a Gay Pride Parade, you don't need your rainbow flag, you don't need to worry about what everybody else does or says, just live your LGBT life and enjoy it.

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Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 5:28 PM

I agree. They want you to not say anything agasnt them but they find things to say agasnt anything normal.

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"If you want to be....."


May 27, 2015, 5:30 PM

Yep, they chose it. I mean who wouldn't choose all the fun that goes along with being LGBT and dealing with fine folks like yerself.....smh.

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Re: "If you want to be....."


May 27, 2015, 5:33 PM

Enjoy your LGBT life TigerFace, I wish you much happiness.

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That is about the response I would expect, lol...


May 27, 2015, 5:40 PM

"You must be one!" What a loser....

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Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 5:37 PM

"Down everybody's throats"

LOL

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I'm sick of the Irish


May 27, 2015, 5:39 PM

I don't see why they get a parade either. I mean, it's cool, if you choose to be Irish, I guess that's your thing, but you don't have to be shoving your pale skin all up in my face.

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Re: I'm sick of the Irish


May 27, 2015, 5:56 PM

The Irish do have a better football team!

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Re: I'm sick of the Irish


May 27, 2015, 6:19 PM [ in reply to I'm sick of the Irish ]

But to be fair how about being sick of Blacks? How about Hispanics? Italians, some Germans? Of course, those are all ethnicities.

I think what he was getting at was he doesn't understand why their needs to be a parade demonstration declaring what kind of sex you like to practice in the bedroom. It seems strange.

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Re: I'm sick of the Irish


May 27, 2015, 6:51 PM [ in reply to I'm sick of the Irish ]

Pale skin/red hair is even worse. Get it out my face ;)

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he be a good writer


May 27, 2015, 5:46 PM [ in reply to Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda... ]

don't you think?

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"I've been working since I was 15 continually until now. I worked 40 hours a week at 15, when it wasn't even legal for 15 year olds to work that many hours."


Re: he be a good writer


May 27, 2015, 5:58 PM

Hey

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Re: he be a good writer


May 27, 2015, 8:44 PM

Mmmhmmm

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Whatever you do, always give 100%.....unless it's donating blood


Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 8:45 PM [ in reply to Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda... ]

LOL. No doubt.

How come people who fear there's a gay person that's gonna pop out at every corner always talk about something being "shoved down their throats"?

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Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 5:41 PM

Thank goodness there's no LGBT bike rally!!!

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Whatever they're doing is working...


May 27, 2015, 5:54 PM

Today, you have a better chance of being elected to public office as a homosexual than someone who is non-religious. That's amaazing.

I sincerely doubt the LGBT movement or any social movement can be effective without being vocal in the public sphere.

I'm tired of stubborn people that use their personal religious beliefs to justify limiting the rights of other Americans.

And no, I'm not gay. Straight, but not narrow.

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Re: Whatever they're doing is working...


May 27, 2015, 7:59 PM

And the Christian Right does not have an agenda that they pushing?

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Gotta love 3% of the population


May 27, 2015, 6:02 PM

Pushing the mainstream narrative for the 97%. The media/Hollywood has played a huge roll in this.

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That number is certainly debatable...


May 27, 2015, 6:07 PM

but who cares? I still haven't heard a good reason to not allow two men or two women to get married. Straight people have already done a wonderful job of ruining the "sanctity of marriage".

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What are you talking about?


May 27, 2015, 6:10 PM

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I dont have a problem with the equal rights deal


May 27, 2015, 6:24 PM [ in reply to That number is certainly debatable... ]

But marriage is ordained by God. marriage is bt a man and woman as God laid out. But civil unions should reap the same benefits.

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Re: I dont have a problem with the equal rights deal


May 27, 2015, 6:46 PM

> But marriage is ordained by God. marriage is bt a man
> and woman as God laid out. But civil unions should
> reap the same benefits.

I personally think there should be a hard divide between "marriage as recognized by one's church" and "marriage as recognized by civil authorities."

People should be allowed to get married any way they want - in a religious ceremony, by a Justice of the Peace, even a drive-thru chapel in Reno if they so desire ("I'll have one holy matrimony, hold the pickles, please")...if two people decide to go for it, they should be allowed to enter into a civil union - a marriage recognized by the government. Myself, I don't know what the big deal is with nomenclature, and why the term "marriage" is so loaded for some people on both sides...I would have personally been fine with legalizing "same-sex civil unions"...as long as it had the same legal status as a marriage. People quibble a lot over words. It might actually promote some peacefulness if "marriage" was a thing that was recognized by a church, and a "civil union" was the recognition of a partnership by the government.

Then the gays and the religious strict-constructionists can fight it out all they want within the confines of their churches as to whether or not their "civil union" is in fact a "legitimate marriage". I could care less how that argument goes, as long as gays have the same legal rights to partnership as anyone else. Not my business to tell churches or devout Church-members what they gotta believe. Personally I'd cede the word "marriage" to churches. I could care less about the word, just the legal right behind it.

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I think it's funny


May 27, 2015, 6:56 PM

You can get married on a reality show and people watch.

You can get hammered drunk and marry a stripper in Vegas and no one protests.

You can get married 4 times and conservatives still listen to you on the radio.

You can get married 3 times have 2 affairs and still run as a conservative christian candidate.

Yet, people have a problem with gay marriage.

I've been married once, today is my wedding anniversary. I swore and oath to God that I would do a bunch of stuff until one of us dies (at least that's how I remember it). So, it's OK to lie to God but it's not OK for gays to get married? I see a disconnect.

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Re: I think it's funny


May 27, 2015, 7:04 PM

Who is it that's been married 4 times on radio?


I've been married twice. My first wife decided she wanted to ride every #### in the county. Although I also made those promises to God, I doubt he holds that divorce against me ;)

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That would be Rush


May 27, 2015, 7:12 PM

Newt would be the politician I mentioned.

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Re: That would be Rush


May 27, 2015, 7:15 PM

I recognized you were referring to Newt but not Limbaugh. I don't know a lot about him. Thankfully I think I've probably heard him for less than an hour of my 40+ years on this earth.

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Yes, 3 is high per most studies. Likely about 2 with 2.5


May 27, 2015, 8:16 PM [ in reply to That number is certainly debatable... ]

the top end of the statistical range.

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Are you telling me I'm gay and just don't know it yet?


May 27, 2015, 8:55 PM [ in reply to That number is certainly debatable... ]

I've never met a gay guy that didn't tell me that.

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Re: Gotta love 3% of the population


May 27, 2015, 6:14 PM [ in reply to Gotta love 3% of the population ]

Wait, are you referring to now or the 1950s and 1960s civil rights movement?

It's not clear from your statement.

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You do realize


May 27, 2015, 6:15 PM [ in reply to Gotta love 3% of the population ]

Even if I granted your 3% number, I find it odd you discount that some of the 97% simply don't like the idea that those 3% are barred from entering into a legal union and given the same rights as the rest of us straight folks.

It's a simple matter of legal fairness to me, and to tons of other straight folks who think that even were it .03% it would still matter.

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Re: Gotta love 3% of the population


May 27, 2015, 8:47 PM [ in reply to Gotta love 3% of the population ]

> Pushing the mainstream narrative for the 97%.

"Aw. Push it. Push it real good."

Who hears that beat?

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The non-gay "allies" just use the 3% as an excuse


May 28, 2015, 1:47 PM [ in reply to Gotta love 3% of the population ]

Liberal sexual morality was already more consonant with gay sexuality than it was with Christian or traditional sexuality. So why not attach your movement to the cause of a small sexual minority in order to make the next step in the march of the sexual revolution appear to be about equal rights?

Really, as some people have pointed out, sex outside of marriage and divorce (especially no fault divorce) have already obscured the traditional definition of marriage to the point that people both don't know why the government is even involved in marriage, and don't have any idea why gender has anything to do with it. In that sense, a lot of straight have already been living in "gay marriages" to partners of the opposite sex.

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Didn't your similar post already get taken down by mods?


May 27, 2015, 6:13 PM

Same response to you...
YOU are part of the problem by posting about it on tigernet. However you feel about it, you just gave it more "press" on our Clemson Tiger fan site.

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Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 6:14 PM

I am sick of people poasting this crap.

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Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 6:15 PM

I'm sick of people posting that they're sick of other people's crap.

MAKE A LAW NOW. IF THERE'S ALREADY A LAW, MAKE #### SURE YOU KEEP IT.

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Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 6:21 PM

I saw you practicing telling me off, how is that going?

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Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 6:25 PM

why does the government need to sanction gay marriages? Just find someone to officiate and get married.

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Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 6:26 PM

You serious Clark?

Here, we'll start you off fresh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States

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Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 6:25 PM [ in reply to Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda... ]

Que?

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google it next time you are confused


May 27, 2015, 6:48 PM

just messing wit you Rupert



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Re: google it next time you are confused


May 27, 2015, 6:52 PM

I should have definitely picked that one up and now I feel bad.

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Re: google it next time you are confused


May 27, 2015, 7:09 PM

no reason to feel bad, only a handful of poasters pick up on my movie references, and most of them deaded.

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Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda...


May 27, 2015, 6:23 PM

> If you want to be LGBT, no problem, have at it.
>
> But quit shoving your agenda down everybody's
> throat.
>
> You don't need a Gay Pride Parade, you don't need
> your rainbow flag, you don't need to worry about what
> everybody else does or says, just live your LGBT life
> and enjoy it.

The "LGBT agenda" is that they want the same rights as anyone else.

If you wanna have a parade, you have a parade. If you wanna put up any flag you durn well please - a Clemson flag, a Harley-Davidson flag, whatever...doesn't matter, you've got every right to put it up. And that includes a little Gay Pride rainbow if you so feel. I would even include a Nazi swastika or a Confederate battle flag...if you're a private individual, you have the right to put up whatever you durn well please on your own property. Just be prepared to reap the judgment of your neighbors, and I think it's a little...wrongheaded, personally, to use the freedom that is accorded to someone in the United States by the Bill of Rights to wave the banner of groups that believed vociferously in denying freedom to others, but hey, that's what the Bill of Rights is for - my rights stop where someone else's nose begins.

Stuff like that doesn't belong on a government building or publicly funded institution, mind, but then, neither does a Gay Pride rainbow sticker. In a similar vein, Dabo is an employee of a public institution, which means he very much did the right thing by not accepting an award from an organization that promotes the abrogation of others' rights.

There's an old saying from WW2 that I think applies here from a very astute German pastor called Martin Niemoller that kinda applies here:

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.


As a kid who's third-generation German-American (my great-grandparents were labor unionists in Germany, about third or fourth on Hitler's list, and split in the '30's because they saw which way the wind was blowing and got outta Dodge before the SS rolled them up), I'm very aware where intolerance can go. Most of my family tree, I have heard, got pruned by the SS; I do know some of those website searches have turned up almost no living relatives in Europe and very few here in the US.

Evil exists. And it tends to start rolling when enough people get together and decide the rights of others aren't important, simply because they don't like them.

I know, I know. Something like that could never happen here. I certainly hope not; I hope there's enough people who won't...remain silent, when intolerance raises its head.

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May 27, 2015, 6:24 PM

good stuff

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May 27, 2015, 6:30 PM [ in reply to Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda... ]

Man, all jokes and tongue-in-cheek aside. This is powerful.

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Summa cum laude. Magna cum laude. The radio’s too loudy.


"My rights stop where someone else's nose begins"


May 27, 2015, 7:58 PM [ in reply to Re: Sick of the LGBT agenda... ]

Awesome line. Really. Such a simple and utterly true statement that speaks volumes.

Tolerance is a double-edged sword. If you demand it, you'd best be willing to offer it.

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Where can I find a copy of this agenda?


May 27, 2015, 6:37 PM

I keep hearing about this agenda but can't find it. Is it in website somewhere? Link?

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wharever, ain't it great that no shots have been fired in this


May 27, 2015, 6:43 PM

Disagreement of minds! I have my thoughts on the subject but won't force them on y'all since I know I'm right! LOL.

GoTiGERS

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Found it:


May 27, 2015, 6:48 PM [ in reply to Where can I find a copy of this agenda? ]

1. Gay Marriage
2. Decorate Living Room
3. Bake Cakes
4. Rule World

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Re: Found it:


May 27, 2015, 6:54 PM

At some point, there's a #### ton of glitter that gets dumped into the church pews. Probably a morning project before cake baking.

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I'm down with that...


May 27, 2015, 7:05 PM [ in reply to Found it: ]

as long I don't have to marry some dude. My wife would be so p!ssed.

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Don't worry


May 27, 2015, 7:11 PM

When Gay marriage becomes legal, we're all going gay. You, me, your wife, my wife, all of us, GAY. That's what happens when you recognize gay marriage.

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Re: Don't worry


May 27, 2015, 7:13 PM

Can we just choose for the wives to go bi? I always had that fantasy. Me and two women. LOL


Or is that out of the question?

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Re: Don't worry


May 27, 2015, 7:13 PM [ in reply to Don't worry ]

I have never seen a straight guy talk about gay marriage every single day. I think you may be confused.

Don't live a lie. Be honest with yourself. Set yourself free.

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You got me


May 27, 2015, 7:15 PM

Tonight is my 8th wedding anniversary.

I've been with my wife for 14 years.

We have a daughter.

I'm totally gay for you Ned. Don't deny my love. We can make this work.


Message was edited by: drewtigeralum03®


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Re: You got me


May 27, 2015, 7:20 PM

Why do you think about gays all the time if you aren't gay?

It is a good question.

I could understand if you are gay. But you say you aren't gay.

Is there nothing else that interests you other than gays?

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Oh, I talk about football and basketball all the time


May 27, 2015, 7:28 PM

I also talk about music, #####, pewp, and other fun stuff on the jounge.

I will say that gay marriage is an important issue because while it doesn't effect me personally, it does have an impact on my extended family.

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Re: Oh, I talk about football and basketball all the time


May 27, 2015, 9:38 PM

Abortion seems more important and you don't ever talk about it. Then we find out you support it.

You care so much about gay rights but not at all about baby rights. Why should I care about gay rights if most of them don't care about baby rights? I think it is a compelling question.

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Re: You got me


May 27, 2015, 7:30 PM [ in reply to Re: You got me ]

You're not asking me but I'll answer.


I think about ONE gay all the time. Every morning I pray that my brother stays safe, that my brother doesn't run up on some fruit cake that wants him dead simply because he is gay.

Even at a pretty liberal university where he teaches, (Duke) he has dealt with some unsavory people throwing slurs etc.

I pray and think about him constantly.


I don't know the issues with Drew. But, living the past two decades plus with an openly gay brother has shown me some of the things they go through.

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Yup, in a similar situation


May 27, 2015, 7:31 PM

Substitute brother for cousin.

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Re: You got me


May 27, 2015, 7:32 PM [ in reply to Re: You got me ]

You should know that trolling is a lot more fun when you don't act like you're borderline retarded.

What do you even get outta that?

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Re: Don't worry


May 27, 2015, 7:22 PM [ in reply to Don't worry ]

You might as well be gay given you don't think about anything else. It is so weird.

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Yea, well you might as well be an abortion


May 27, 2015, 7:29 PM

based on your logic.

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Re: Yea, well you might as well be an abortion


May 27, 2015, 7:30 PM

Do you really want to remind everybody that you support abortion as do most people pro-gay marriage?

Yet you want to talk about rights. What about right to life? Gays aren't getting crushed to death.

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Sorry Blue


May 27, 2015, 7:34 PM

I would love to stick around and probe deeper into you delusions of love, but the wife is home and we have reservations.

By the way, is it weird that when I read your posts, the main image I associate with you is this?



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Re: Sorry Blue


May 27, 2015, 7:36 PM

Ha. I just watched that movie recently. I can't remember the name of it but that dad was a real fruit

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lulz


May 27, 2015, 10:26 PM [ in reply to Where can I find a copy of this agenda? ]

It's eàsy being a pompous jackhole, isn't it? There may not be a they manifesto or agenda, but right at the moment there is definitely a media, organized agenda, that dominates. And, if you have the impertinence to be in the hetero, 90%, majority, you are not gonna fit.

This stupid generation, are absolutely confounded by the irrelevant.

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I sure don't want anything shoved down my throat,


May 27, 2015, 7:01 PM

but I'm all for equal rights and freedom from discrimination and harassment for all LGBTs. Them having parades and flags doesn't impact my life one bit, and can't possibly be stretched into shoving something down anybody's throat.

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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
- H. L. Mencken


Lumping all of them together is just lazy and comfortable


May 27, 2015, 7:33 PM

for those that oppose their lifestyle. The majority are just trying to live their lives and enjoy it, but there are many things that make that difficult including the attitudes of many of the posters on this board.

I used to be much less supportive of their cause, but having watched two cousins (one on my wife's side) grow up to be gay men and showing obvious outward signs from ages as young as 4-5, i was forced to reevaluate a lot of preconceived notions that i had, and really question things philosophically. While i can't claim to have ever come to a satisfactory conclusion, i have become generally supportive of their cause.

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Will people please move on from using the term


May 27, 2015, 7:54 PM

lifestyle? Are you and I doing the hetero lifestyle? A lifestyle is being a golfer or a stoner or following a band around.

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the most level headed response that I have seen on board


May 27, 2015, 7:55 PM [ in reply to Lumping all of them together is just lazy and comfortable ]

about this subject. I stay away from politics and other social stuff on the internet but I was so impressed by Dabo's statement today that I started reading these threads. I find religious people of any faith who think that they are the only "right" folks to be ridiculous. Most of the time they are the same people who get all of their "facts" and experiences from the media or other like minded people that they surround themselves with. It's the same way with race issues in this country. When you travel and get out of comfort zones you begin to see that there are some great people of all faiths, all political parties, all social strata, all over the place....people who generally just want to live, raise families, and work for a living. There are leeches, scumbags, selfish, self absorbed, lazy, etc., people in all parts of the country, and of all colors and creeds. Judge people on their individual character, heart, goodness inside, and don't worry about who they sleep with or what faith they are and the world would be a hell of lot better of a place. Oh, let me stop...I'm a transplanted Columbia boy in San Jose, CA, who retired out here, so I have to be a faith hating, agnostic, liberal, scumbag.....instead, I am a retired Marine combat veteran who could care less about your faith or your sexual orientation as long as I know you are a good person in your personal character that will have my back through thick and thin and won't lie, cheat, steal from me either literally or figuratively....nor will you do it to anyone else. The God I believe in I believe in in MY way. If others do not believe the same way I will still get to know them because there is more to a person than whether I agree with them personally on politics or religion. I served in the Corps with a rainbow coalition of colors and faiths and it's funny how when the bullets were flying, this BS didn't matter to any of us. Man, how I miss that atmosphere.

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Life inside the bubble is safe and warm


May 27, 2015, 7:57 PM

but hard to hear what is going on around you.

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Re: the most level headed response that I have seen on board


May 27, 2015, 7:57 PM [ in reply to the most level headed response that I have seen on board ]

Thumbs up

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archie bunker says "hello".***


May 27, 2015, 7:39 PM



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It is repulsive. And portrayed as a much higher


May 27, 2015, 8:14 PM

percentage of the population by hollywood then it is because of their overrep there. So now among the kids its becoming the "cool thing"..............not a choice for some maybe (genetic defect) but clearly becoming a socially pressured choice to many youths.

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Agree.


May 27, 2015, 8:57 PM

It's a genetic defect. It might be a fad but that's old news. The fad followers don't last long when the face real life as a gay person.

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of note, all of the homophobes I knew in high school,


May 27, 2015, 10:02 PM

eventually came out as gay. your future may be rainbow brite. just sayin'.

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And it's only going to become more intrusive


May 28, 2015, 1:39 PM

Especially if the SC rules that there's a right to gay marriage. Get ready to basically be told you have to agree.

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