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Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star
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Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star


Jan 5, 2015, 10:11 AM

Not like I lose sleep over recruit rankings or anything, its just puzzling. Was it because of his size? Its not like he got any smaller....I don't get how you can have a guy who has been increasingly productive and improving and lower his ranking. Odd.

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He dropped during the off season


Jan 5, 2015, 10:13 AM

after not committing to an SEC team, THAT'S ALL.

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Re: He dropped during the off season


Jan 5, 2015, 6:05 PM

CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!! sad but true!

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Re: Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star


Jan 5, 2015, 10:14 AM

maybe he plays with a chip on shoulder.

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does this chip person make him taller?***


Jan 5, 2015, 10:18 AM



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"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Re: does this chip person make him taller?***


Jan 5, 2015, 10:25 AM

think kyle parker with this kid.

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Does he have a cannon for an arm too? Don't know much


Jan 5, 2015, 10:53 AM

about the kid honestly. Outside of him being "undersized" and breaking all kinds of passing records in Florida which is impressive.

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"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Re: Does he have a cannon for an arm too? Don't know much


Jan 5, 2015, 10:55 AM

strong arm, probably not a cannon like parker. But he can sling it in there and has as good a touch on the deep ball as you could want.

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Also great football intelligence and pocket presence.


Jan 5, 2015, 5:03 PM

I agree, not a "cannon" for an arm but he has superb accuracy in all phases. He has pretty good quickness and speed too. Not as much as Bryant, but he can get outta trouble and make things happen.

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Re: Does he have a cannon for an arm too? Don't know much


Jan 5, 2015, 6:06 PM [ in reply to Does he have a cannon for an arm too? Don't know much ]

he had over 600 yds passing in both his last 2 games!!

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Re: Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star


Jan 5, 2015, 10:16 AM

Simple....he's a Clemson commit. We always get shafted when they commit early to us

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Re: Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star


Jan 5, 2015, 10:47 AM

and since his star rating dropped, look for AllTimeClemson to declare him a wasted scholarship....

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With 2 inch elevator shoes he'll play like 6'-1"


Jan 5, 2015, 10:16 AM

The whole OL will eat pancakes off of his head.

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Re: With 2 inch elevator shoes he'll play like 6'-1"


Jan 5, 2015, 10:19 AM

he and Chalmers should have stood at the edge of the photo.

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Re: Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star


Jan 5, 2015, 10:28 AM

ESPN is doing everything it can to influence recruiting! From constantly spouting that if you are talented, big, fast, you play in the SEC, to dropping stars to affect the overall class rankings of non-SEC schools! It is INDOCTRINATION and BRAINWASHING of the 12-15 year olds that are out there watching! Calling them out on TIGERNET really doesn't help but TWITTER can be a powerful tool that the public can use to call BS on ESPN's actions

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There's also an inordinate amount of airtime shown for the


Jan 5, 2015, 11:04 AM

SEC commits during the all-star games... both verbals and potentials. "Luges" constantly snorting one out....

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Re: Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star


Jan 5, 2015, 10:32 AM

I for one can see it either way. He looks like he is like 5'10 without a big time arm. On the other side guy has put up video game numbers. Scouts love the guy that looks like a million bucks at qb. If you go back and look think qb would have the highest bust right out of the 4 stars.

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Re: Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star


Jan 5, 2015, 11:07 AM

the bigger question for me......why sign with CU at all....................and sit behind Watson. Of course Watson is injury-prone.....but still surprised to see Dabo sign not one but two Qbs in this class.

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Re: Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star


Jan 5, 2015, 11:11 AM

kind of like the way RB's lined up to play behind and injury prone girly last year?

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Re: Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star


Jan 5, 2015, 11:19 AM

There are several factors that make sense. Yes, the starter can get injured, particularly if he's a significant weapon in the run game. (See tOSU) Also, there's the thought that they can learn and improve. Young QBs can see guys having success in the system, graduating, and enjoying the family atmosphere and be attracted to that. Sure, they'd like to have that success early, but the other factors make being patient easier. Israel also strikes me as an intelligent kid. Maybe he knows that he'll be better able to compete in a couple years after he's grown an inch or two and put on a few pounds.

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Not everybody is a DW and can go start as a true freshman


Jan 5, 2015, 7:53 PM [ in reply to Re: Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star ]

Most QBs understand they will sit a year or 2 or take a RS before being able to realistically compete for playing time. Bryce Ramsey signed wwith UGA with several other QBs already on the roster...

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these things are not static. got to keep the Subscriptions


Jan 5, 2015, 11:32 AM

Coming in. . Else people would pay when the stars are given and then quit . Like I do with hbo during the game of thrones season.

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Dang, I need to sigh up so I can get the "insider" scoop too***


Jan 5, 2015, 4:22 PM



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You remember Mitch Hyatt losing his #1 OT ranking overnight


Jan 5, 2015, 5:40 PM

the following day after committing to Clemson?

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Re: You remember Mitch Hyatt losing his #1 OT ranking overnight


Jan 5, 2015, 6:05 PM

I sure do... more ESPN bias.. SICKENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yep, that was an absolute travesty


Jan 5, 2015, 7:55 PM [ in reply to You remember Mitch Hyatt losing his #1 OT ranking overnight ]

and very telling of E$ecPN's not so secret agenda. It's a shame that ESPN is the only recruiting service that has Hyatt lower than the #1 OT

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Re: Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star


Jan 5, 2015, 5:59 PM

I stood next to him today @ Orientation. He's about 5'11-6'

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I would say about 6ft.***


Jan 5, 2015, 6:01 PM



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Re: Still don't get why E$PN dropped Tucker Israel's 4th star


Jan 5, 2015, 6:04 PM

he is coming to Clemson!! certainly U do not need more info!! if he was going to Bama he would be 5*

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