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Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat
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Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 19, 2023, 9:30 PM

and this game is a huge “Referendum” in college football ball since Dabo is stern on no Transfers and FSU coach is a leader of the Portal system.

He’s probably right in which team & coach wins..

but it’s gonna be a tough out if Tigers have their needed game paint on thick.

Tee the dang ball up!

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 19, 2023, 9:38 PM

I like Pate but I hope he's wrong on this one. Still not used to our Tigers getting beat like we have been in recent memory. A win Saturday will definitely get tension off the program that desperately needs good news and big wins right now.

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 19, 2023, 9:42 PM

We’ve won 1 “big game” in the last 2+ years…. NC State last year when they were ranked 9 or 10, and they were frauds so that is probably more like 1/2 a win… these kind of games used to be a given and we would show out and usually win convincingly. Until we show we can do that again, I need to see it with my eyes first… no idea what to expect while I’m in the Valley this weekend.

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We beat FSU, 10-2 team last year, and UNC in the ACC title game

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Sep 19, 2023, 11:46 PM

The facts contradict your assertion

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Re: We beat FSU, 10-2 team last year, and UNC in the ACC title game

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Sep 20, 2023, 7:16 AM

FSU was 9-3. But I still agree with your post

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat


Sep 20, 2023, 7:30 AM [ in reply to Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat ]

Harrumph!!! Harrumph!!!

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Ummmm No***

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Sep 20, 2023, 8:28 AM [ in reply to Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat ]



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lol! Were 5th in P5 wins the last 2 seasons and 4th the last 3

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Sep 20, 2023, 11:21 AM [ in reply to Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat ]

To read some of the nonsense in here you’d think we’re 40th and 50th.

Sometimes I wish all these new fans who jumped on board in 2015 would just find another team. People can’t appreciate doing better than the program has ever been. They have no idea what depths we’ve come from and where we STILL are in national standing. The numbers don’t lie.

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 19, 2023, 9:45 PM

All those awesome transfers almost shat the bed against BC.

Sure, they could win this week, but I don't see the Noles as some unbeatable team.

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And our non-transfers actually did shat the bed against Duke.***

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Re: And our non-transfers actually did shat the bed against Duke.***

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Sep 20, 2023, 11:13 AM

Someone please take out the trash...

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 20, 2023, 7:05 AM [ in reply to Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat ]

They got full of themselves pretty quickly. Unfortunately, it was BC that brought them back to earth. I was hoping that WE could do that. In FSU’s defense, they weren’t up for that game and thought they had it won stepping off of the bus. They won’t overlook Clemson.

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 19, 2023, 9:47 PM

I don’t think one game’s outcome should be touted as a referendum.

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 20, 2023, 12:13 AM

This has been coming for a while now. Dabo has been preaching his anti-portal stuff for years now. I can take or leave Josh Pate, but he isn't wrong on how this battle will be portrayed by the media.

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How is Dabo anti portal when we have had two QBs..

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Sep 20, 2023, 12:16 AM

Transfer in the past two seasons to address depth at QB

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Come on man seriously lol? Be played here and .

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Sep 20, 2023, 12:20 AM

Called Dabo to be a GA and Dabo said hey wait a min don’t you have eligibility left lol. He told him you are not here to play but to be a player coach and the other one just happens to be Bear Bryant’s grandson lol, another friends/family scholly. He didn’t actively use the portal to go find players to play.

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Yeah because the portal wasnt need this year..

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Sep 20, 2023, 1:12 AM

We have 56 4/5 star players, so we didn’t have that many scholarships to go out in the portal to get a bunch players in the first place. Unless you’re implying that Dabo should have ran players off to make way for transfers. Like I originally stated it was used to add depth, not find a starte. Also, if you reply leave the lol’s out in the middle of your sentences. So lol all you want with friends conspiracy theories, it’s really not proving anything by typing lol in the middle of sentences.

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Re: Yeah because the portal wasnt need this year..

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Sep 20, 2023, 7:35 AM

Well, we apparently needed a starting kicker, so we did the Clemson portal-rooski to get one. The other two "portal" players will never play meaningful snaps for us. Acting like Dabo is pro-portal (or pro NIL) is not a defensible position to a reasonable person. The media knows this and has the receipts. As such, this will be portrayed as "Old school" Dabo vs "New school" Norvell. And many in the media won't even remotely hide their disdain for the old school way.

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What portal kicker?


Sep 20, 2023, 11:29 AM

Nothing you said there is relevant. At all.

We don’t need to sit ANYONE for a portal quitter.

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Re: What portal kicker?


Sep 20, 2023, 12:39 PM


Nothing you said there is relevant. At all.

We don’t need to sit ANYONE for a portal quitter.




https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-football/story/dabo-takes-a-kicker-off-the-beach-to-start-against-florida-state-21535


I guess you missed this little tidbit? Not exactly a portal player, but pretty much a portal player. LOL

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Didnt quit us and wasnt sitting in the portal.


Sep 20, 2023, 6:34 PM

Please try again.

Is this your example of the magic portal making elite teams? I’m waiting on that honestly.

You ever hear of chicken little? You may want a few google it. Otherwise, please pipe down about things you know nothing about. Appreciate ya.

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Re: Didnt quit us and wasnt sitting in the portal.


Sep 21, 2023, 7:22 AM

Is that you Bowelhunter? Please work on your reading comprehension. YOu said we didn't need to sit anyone, yet Dabo just pulled a kid ON to the the team that wasn't on the team when the season started. And someone else is now gonna be sitting. Not actually a portal player, but basically the same thing. So your statement that 'We don’t need to sit ANYONE for a portal quitter." isn't very accurate. In fact we ARE sitting someone. Specifically the starting kicker. Does that make you sad the Dabo did backdoor portal deal? Not sure why it would. We're just trying to improve our chances to win. I would think you would support that move. Maybe you should find another team to root for if you don't like what Dabo is doing.

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So yeah, the kicker isnt a portal guy who quit on anyone .


Sep 21, 2023, 11:58 AM

So yeah, you were wrong. No need to deflect now.

The portal has never made an elite program nor will it. The Clemsons, OSUs, UGAs, and the Alabamas build their programs with recruiting.

And don’t give me any garbage about one or two guys. That’s fine, but we arent now or ever just going to grab a dude out of the portal to sit a starter. Our starters are all highly recruited kids and won’t be dismissed for a guy seeking a starting role. We don’t need WRs, we don’t need QBs, and we don’t need anyone else anywhere.

And that’s not what happened here. Gunn is a all league player, but he needs to get his head on straight. He will earn the job back, no question. The guy coming back was never a starter and I think he has 3 extra points to his name. Heck, even he knows he’s not coming here to permanently replace a scholarship.

Not the same. Nothing you said is relevant to the fact elite teams don’t have 2-deeps made up of mostly portal players. There’s zero evidence to say that’s the magic recipe.

The portal is not a reason we lost to anyone.

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You may want to look at resumes before making silly comments like


Sep 20, 2023, 11:33 AM [ in reply to Re: Yeah because the portal wasnt need this year.. ]

that Norvell is anywhere in Dabo’s neighborhood.

Dabo is the 2nd leading coach of the playoff era. Can you please list Magic Mike Norvells accomplishments?

Tia.

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Re: You may want to look at resumes before making silly comments like


Sep 20, 2023, 12:44 PM


that Norvell is anywhere in Dabo’s neighborhood.

Dabo is the 2nd leading coach of the playoff era. Can you please list Magic Mike Norvells accomplishments?

Tia.


chill out my guy, you are so focused on raging you aren't even comprehending. NO one has compared Dabo and Norvell's resume, let alone put Norvell on the same level. We're talking about how the MEDIA is going to portray this upcoming game. I made the statement that it will be "old school" vs "new school" rightly or worngly, fairly or unfairly. I happen to think it isn't all that unfair. I don't LIKE it, but it isn't patently unfair.

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My guy? Do I know you?


Sep 20, 2023, 6:36 PM

You literally elevated Norvell above Dabo as a modern era coach.

You’re full of it, my guy. Please step to the back until your name is called.

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Re: My guy? Do I know you?


Sep 21, 2023, 7:24 AM


You literally elevated Norvell above Dabo as a modern era coach.

You’re full of it, my guy. Please step to the back until your name is called.




Please quote the post where i "literally elevated" Norvell to Dabo's level.

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We should shitcan all starters and promise jobs to portal quitters


Sep 20, 2023, 11:27 AM [ in reply to Yeah because the portal wasnt need this year.. ]

Say the magic portal clowns

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What? Is this serious?***


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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 20, 2023, 12:56 AM [ in reply to Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat ]

He’s playing a role in that media because he’s a university of Georgia fan

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 20, 2023, 4:17 AM


He’s playing a role in that media because he’s a university of Georgia fan


Josh Pate went to UNCheat. He’s a Tarhole.

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat


Sep 20, 2023, 11:49 AM

Hehehe...you said "Tarhole"....hehehe

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The portal does not build elite programs nor has it been the reason for a single loss ever .


Sep 20, 2023, 11:25 AM [ in reply to Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat ]

You’re literally imagining things, plus, Dabo said he will gladly use the portal if an absolute need arises. As it is, we’re not benching anyone to bring a quitter from another program.

FSU hasn’t done crap.

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 19, 2023, 10:00 PM

I agree with Pate, I have seen nothing that tells me we will win this game or even keep it close.
We have gotten better over the last couple of weeks but no where near what FSU offense has looked. I hope that I am wrong!!

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Shouldnt even show up

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Sep 20, 2023, 7:32 AM

Based on what a PUNDIT says

Then I guess we shouldn’t even play the game and just give them the win

I mean if the pundit says we lose we must lose why even try

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Sep 20, 2023, 8:28 AM [ in reply to Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat ]



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Youve seen nothing?! How about FSUs 104th ranked defense ?


Sep 20, 2023, 11:31 AM [ in reply to Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat ]

Obviously you haven’t watched anything.

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I'm just glad it will be over early

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Sep 19, 2023, 10:05 PM

but I suspect we do lose big. The o-line has nothing that can stop FSU. Our defense has not played anyone better than Duke...and still looks weak.

I hope I am wrong too... but if not, my feelings won't be hurt like a lot of others around here.

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Josh Pate who?

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Sep 19, 2023, 10:10 PM

Seriously the fascination with this guy is absurd

Hot takes just for clicks and discussion on message boards

Could we get beat? Yes, but I choose not to worry about some dude who’s opinions are worth just as much as mind


Go Tigers

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Also the dude cannot even say Clemson properly

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Sep 19, 2023, 10:14 PM

That should speak volumes enough

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His computer says Even-Steven

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Sep 19, 2023, 10:28 PM

but he will go with FSU & 2.5 pts to cover & win but can see a blow-out with stadium quiet by 1st Qtr.

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Re: His computer says Even-Steven

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Sep 20, 2023, 1:13 AM

It’s hard to believe we have beat them 7 times in a row and you ride around with Clemson stickers all over your vehicle and believe we will be blown out at home by that unproven team.

Where’s your faith, hope & love for Clemson?

I can’t imagine your what a team hopes to have in its fans. I guess the team motivates your cheer?

I’ve been a Clemson fan my whole life and many times we didn’t have the team or the talent to compete but I didn’t plan on seeing an early blowout. I always cheered and planned on a win especially at home.

This team is talented, we have great facilities and an incredible history, greatest stadium and used to have the best fans.

I’m not sure what motivates you to cheer as others behind you look to your example?

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Re: His computer says Even-Steven

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Sep 20, 2023, 4:51 AM

Preach it brother!!!

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Re: His computer says Even-Steven

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Sep 20, 2023, 7:09 AM [ in reply to Re: His computer says Even-Steven ]

Dude, it wasn’t HIM saying that, he was telling you what PATE said. I watched his video and that is exactly what Pate said.

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Re: His computer says Even-Steven


Sep 20, 2023, 11:28 AM

Ok Sorry, I thought he was saying he thought we could be blown out early in the game. If that’s the case I apologize Bill.

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BINGO! Some Clemson men have lost their ballz.

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Sep 20, 2023, 11:37 AM [ in reply to Re: His computer says Even-Steven ]

I never heard talk like this when I was in school.

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Re: His computer says Even-Steven

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Sep 20, 2023, 11:44 AM [ in reply to Re: His computer says Even-Steven ]

Bravo good sir. Great comment!

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Re: His computer says Even-Steven


Sep 20, 2023, 11:36 AM [ in reply to His computer says Even-Steven ]

Sorry bill I though you where saying you thought we’d be blown out early, I was driving when I read it…lol

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Re: Josh Pate who?


Sep 20, 2023, 8:28 AM [ in reply to Josh Pate who? ]

He actually makes very moderate takes and is a reasonable talking head.

You just don't like this one so you think its a "hot take"

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He is thinking that

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Sep 19, 2023, 10:39 PM

We are going to look like Duje made us look for the whole game and Florida Atlantic made us look for the third quarter. He is thinking about our offense going three and out from late second qtr to late third qtr vs FAU.
Hes also letting the eye test dictate his thoughts. He sees FSU looking very fast, athletic and ripped and Clemson looking like slow, not athletic, and kind of dough boy looking. He's letting all of that persuade him. And maybe that we had no push offensive line vs FAU and they stood us up three downs inside the two, not to mention what they did to Ship on the goalline for lack of blocking.

He doesn't know what he's talking about.

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And he's thinking we have freshman

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Sep 19, 2023, 10:43 PM

Receivers while FSU went to the portal and loaded up, Coleman and Bell to go with their Heisman candidate qb.
The team with the best players win and the talent and on the two teams has completely reversed. They have the horses and we don't. That's what Josh is thinking. What does he know, LOL

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Bell has dropped a ton of passes and Coleman only had 3 catches against BC***


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Sep 20, 2023, 7:12 AM

Bell will be featured against Clemson. Bank on it. They have kept him under wraps the past 2 games.

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Well said****


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Re: He is thinking that


Sep 20, 2023, 4:54 AM [ in reply to He is thinking that ]

He sure as sh@t don't know what he's talking about! Let's just spot the ball Saturday and find out.

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat


Sep 19, 2023, 11:05 PM

Dabo -3 vs. The Portal...

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I hope hes wrong but what have we shown this season


Sep 19, 2023, 11:25 PM

That would make us think otherwise?

IF Florida St comes to play and doesn’t turn the ball over then I have a feeling this game will get ugly in a hurry. I hope I’m wrong.

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Josh Pate is a dbag

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Sep 19, 2023, 11:25 PM

Now a days anyone living in their Mom’s basement has a YouTube channel is considered a sports pundit

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Re: Josh Pate is a dbag

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Sep 20, 2023, 7:13 AM

Pate has been more accurate than any media pundit I’ve seen.

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Then I guess you hope we get blown out by FSU


Sep 20, 2023, 7:16 AM

Might as well not even play the game if the media pundit says we’re gonna get blown out


It’s football you play the game for a reason

It’s not computer simulations and betting lines and feelings based on 3 games of data

We’ve gotten soft as a fan base listening to gosh darn pundits.

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Say Im just curious.. I never heard of the dude fear has he been accurate about?


Sep 20, 2023, 9:55 PM [ in reply to Re: Josh Pate is a dbag ]

And that does mean he misses sometimes right?

How accurate (%) would you say he is?

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Hes a university of Georgia guy whos never liked Clemson

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Sep 20, 2023, 12:54 AM

He’s always had 101 ways that Clemson wouldn’t be any good and that Dabo couldn’t coach after winning national championships because he’s only an underdog coach that’s his theory.

Go back and listen to his videos from the past there on, YouTube, search his name and Clemson. You’ll see exactly how he feels about Clemson and Alabama because he’s a Georgia fan.

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Ok, that makes much more sense..

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Sep 20, 2023, 1:21 AM

But at the same time he is contradicting himself if he ain’t b**ching about Georgia using. Cause Georgia has the same number of transfers as we do.

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using the transfer portal***

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 20, 2023, 4:18 AM

FSU almost lost to crappy Boston College last weekend. I still like our chances. Cmon!!

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LBB...THIS GAME is not a referndum IMHO. Next year is

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Sep 20, 2023, 7:16 AM

the referendum. If we are back as I think we will be..and FSU tanks it as I think they will...that is the referendum...But, it could be a referendum..If Clemson wins...and all those mercenaries for FSU tank the rest of the year....We saw a little crack in the armor this week when Coleman complained that he didn't get enough targets last game.

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Re: LBB...THIS GAME is not a referndum IMHO. Next year is


Sep 20, 2023, 11:28 AM

A lot of people seem to forget that FSU also has the #6 recruiting class for next year along with all the transfers they are bringing in, Norvell is embracing the new way of football, maybe Dabo should think about doing the same.

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When Norvell makes 6 of 9 playoffs and wins 2 national championships and becomes


Sep 20, 2023, 11:45 AM

the 2nd best program of the playoff era, then let me know.

Otherwise try to stop putting all your eggs in the magic portal hat, since it’s never made an elite program. You’re saying things that haven’t happened (and likely won’t) as if you’ve already seen real life evidence of it.

How old are you, young man? 20?

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Re: LBB...THIS GAME is not a referndum IMHO. Next year is

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Sep 20, 2023, 11:30 AM [ in reply to LBB...THIS GAME is not a referndum IMHO. Next year is ]

Spud said:

the referendum. If we are back as I think we will be..and FSU tanks it as I think they will...that is the referendum...But, it could be a referendum..If Clemson wins...and all those mercenaries for FSU tank the rest of the year....We saw a little crack in the armor this week when Coleman complained that he didn't get enough targets last game.



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Sep 20, 2023, 7:50 AM

Dabo doesn’t know what he’s doing and Mike Norvell has accomplished much more! Dabo obviously can’t get a team ready for a big game and recruiting doesn’t matter anymore!

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 20, 2023, 8:08 AM

As Frank Howard said, "I don't want the best team to win, I want my team to win". I'm afraid that's what we have to hope for this week-end.

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Sep 20, 2023, 8:15 AM

Win or lose Saturday the sun will come up on Sunday, bills still have to be paid, most of our family's will still love us and the only thing that changes is the attitudes people have of a game. Do I hope we win? Absolutely! Do I think we win? Absolutely! We are far from a great team, but then again so is FSU! There are no great teams this season that I have seen. Play smart and don't turn the ball over and we have as much of a chance as they do.

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The Tigers are 5-4 in the last 9 games played. Have to

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Sep 20, 2023, 8:20 AM

re-earn the respect that we once had.

I do want "Dabo's way" to be proven as a way to produce an elite team.

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 20, 2023, 9:49 AM

Unsubscribe him from your YouTube sub list. Problem solved.

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Josh Pate? Never heard of her, but dang she sounds dumb.***

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Re: Josh Pate of LateKick says Tigers lose big Sat

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Sep 20, 2023, 11:32 AM

I haven't watched his comments yet, but it sounds like a short-sighted take, which would be uncharacteristic of Josh from what I have seen of him.

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Sometimes the road to the truth is so elusive it's confusing and reality becomes illusion.


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