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Why did we not offer Conception of NC State
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Nov 28, 2023, 2:50 PM
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since he expressed he wanted to come to Clemson? He scored 2 touchdowns against us. He was the only good receiver they had and they used him often. He was healthy for their last game. Who else had Grisham missed on?
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Re: Why did we not offer Conception of NC State
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Nov 28, 2023, 2:53 PM
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A whole bunch of schools didn't offer him. He was a 3-star ranked down around 80-100 on WR lists.
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Re: Why did we not offer Conception of NC State
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Nov 28, 2023, 3:44 PM
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Did we not check out his blistering speed. He would run circles around most of our guys. We did not seem to miss on receivers when Scott was the WR coach. Just saying.
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Re: Why did we not offer Conception of NC State
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Nov 28, 2023, 3:49 PM
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You are cherry-picking individual players and saying Clemson's coaches failed in recruiting. The fact is, a LOT of coaches miss on prospects. That should be evident to you by the offer sheets of the players you are singling out.
We also don't offer just based on talent, as is well-documented. Culture fit is a factor. Roster size, by position, is a factor. Already-committed recruits is a factor - we won't over-recruit and then force "gray shirts" or push somebody off the roster.
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Re: Why did we not offer Conception of NC State
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Nov 28, 2023, 4:29 PM
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I’m not Cherry picking as the numbers are more than a few.
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Re: Why did we not offer Conception of NC State
Nov 28, 2023, 4:43 PM
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You are absolutely cherry-picking, and the picks aren't even supporting the story.
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Coaches were pursuing higher rated targets on their board.***
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Re: Coaches were pursuing higher rated targets on their board.***
Nov 28, 2023, 3:46 PM
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Is that how you do it? Completely discount someone that some service in California say is no good and only a 3 star guy?
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Re: Coaches were pursuing higher rated targets on their board.***
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Nov 28, 2023, 8:36 PM
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It's well known that Dabo and his coaches do their own evaluations and don't use "recruiting ratings". And I would say it has served us well in the last 15 years or so.
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Re: Coaches were pursuing higher rated targets on their board.***
Nov 28, 2023, 9:44 PM
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C'mon you actually believe they don't use Rivals or 247 for at least baseline from time to time?
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He missed on Green Jr at UNC so we got Tyler Brown.
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Nov 28, 2023, 2:54 PM
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Green surprisingly did nothing at UNC. Think we ended up getting the better player.
I know we missed on one other pretty big one. But Green was the one that everyone was super disappointed about.
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Re: He missed on Green Jr at UNC so we got Tyler Brown.
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Nov 28, 2023, 3:15 PM
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Josh Brown who played for NC last year and was their go to guy indicated he had wanted to come to Clemson also. Seems we are not doing a good job evaluating these guys whether they are 3 star or above. Another miss for Grisham I assume.
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he's about to get paid... by somebody***
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Re: Why did we not offer Conception of NC State
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Nov 28, 2023, 3:36 PM
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Jalin Hyatt was another miss (didn't recruit).
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Re: Why did we not offer Conception of NC State
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Nov 28, 2023, 3:42 PM
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He is another one that didn't have a ton of offers. We did recruit, but did not offer.
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Its not only up to Grisham, but also to our OC and Dabo.
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Nov 28, 2023, 3:37 PM
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Grisham isn’t recruiting by himself.
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Re: Why did we not offer Conception of NC State
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Nov 28, 2023, 4:45 PM
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Same reason we didn't take Tyler Brown until our other options didn't pan out I would assume.
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Re: Why did we not offer Conception of NC State
Nov 28, 2023, 5:29 PM
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If they say you a cherry picker Moonbeam, you are a cherry picker.
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Re: Why did we not offer Conception of NC State
Nov 28, 2023, 8:39 PM
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Hunter Renfro says Hi! You guys have no clue.😂
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