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Here’s a list of teams who have won a national championship since Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 7:02 PM
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LSU Alabama
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Here’s a list of teams who have won the ACC since 2014:
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Clemson.
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Are lists back in vogue?
Oct 6, 2021, 7:25 PM
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Re: Are lists back in vogue?
Oct 6, 2021, 7:32 PM
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My favorite lists list from this post: 1. Row86 2. Cdixon11
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Re: Are lists back in vogue?
Oct 6, 2021, 7:43 PM
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Here’s a list of the letter that make up the word list:
L I S T
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Re: Here’s a list of teams who have won a national championship since Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 8:02 PM
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He name names...
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Here's a list of teams that have won
Oct 6, 2021, 10:23 PM
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2 national championships since 2016.
Clemson Alabama
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Re: Here’s a list of teams who
Oct 7, 2021, 7:28 AM
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Interesting that Iowa is at #109.
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110%er [8194]
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Re: Here’s a list of teams who
Oct 7, 2021, 7:34 AM
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are ranked ahead of Clemson in 2021 in total offense: https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/yards-per-gameCollege Football yards per game, by team. College Football yards per game, by team. College Football yards per game, by team. And here is a list of teams who pay more than Clemson for their offensive coordinator:
Its sad that you think a highly paid staff guarantees a team wont have the occasional down year. Thought you were knowledgeable about college sports but guess I was mistaken
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Here's a list of:
Oct 7, 2021, 7:50 AM
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Trophies won by Brad Brownell:
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Re: Here's a list of:
Oct 7, 2021, 7:50 AM
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guess you forgot that gold medal.
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All-In [44183]
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I don’t see our football coaches with a world championship in anything.
Oct 7, 2021, 8:09 AM
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Re: Here's a list of:
Oct 7, 2021, 8:40 AM
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Uhmm, Brad Brownell won the SI coach of the year award 2018
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I am fully aware that a down year can happen.
Oct 7, 2021, 8:00 AM
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But a down year with all of the player talent and coaching expertise we have shouldn’t be this bad, should it?
I don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to be proud of our amazing accomplishments recently, including the job our coaches have done, but also acknowledge that this year seems like a poor coaching job thus far.
Nothing about this year invalidates our success in previous years, but it does raise some questions. Wouldn’t you agree?
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What do you mean “shouldn’t be this bad” ??
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Oct 7, 2021, 8:07 AM
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We just have 2 losses, right?
I know the rest of the season could go in any direction… but we could also end up 12-2 with our 7th straight ACC championship.
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Re: What do you mean “shouldn’t be this bad” ??
Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 AM
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Of course we could. We could also end up 2-9. Most likely scenario is we lose 4-5 games this year, which I assume even you would agree is unacceptable. We would all love to win out, win the ACC and maybe even sneak back into the top 10 but thats not particularly realistic based off what we've seen thus far.
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I said it could go in any direction.
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Oct 7, 2021, 8:40 AM
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My point was…it’s a little premature to talk about how bad the season is before it has a chance to play out.
Dabo’s track record gives me hope that we’ll find a way.
The biggest obstacle to overcome at this point is the mounting injures. But we shall see!
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Re: I said it could go in any direction.
Oct 7, 2021, 9:52 AM
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Especially from the guy who insists that we shouldn’t cast any judgements on another coach and/or his program until the season is complete. His current constant criticism belies numerous arguments he’s made in the past.
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This season is a disappointment based on preseason expectations
Oct 7, 2021, 7:22 PM
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as well as the standard that our coaches have set for our program.
That’s a far cry from our fans bashing our basketball program before the season even starts, or after a loss or two when there is plenty of time left to reach our preseason goals.
If we win out and finish 12-2, that will be a wonderful finish after a disappointing start. But if we polled Clemson fans before the season and asked them if two losses and missing the playoffs would be a satisfactory season, almost all would have said no.
For the record, I haven’t called for any football coaches to be fired or said that they are bad coaches. I believe they will figure out our offensive issues, but I don’t think they know what that looks like yet.
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An offense stocked with 4 and 5 stars should be able to
Oct 7, 2021, 3:02 PM
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score more than 20 points at home against mediocre ACC teams and NOT be ranked in the triple digits on offense...That was MY interpretation of his statement "we shouldn't be this bad"...It is highly unlikely that we will win 12 games this year, you better start planning for the reality of our situation.I bought tickets to the ACCCG back in the Spring, I hope we can get there...But that's all it is at this point, hope, I have seen nothing on the field that validates our chances
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His reference was to a “down year”…
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Oct 7, 2021, 4:51 PM
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Yes…so far, this one looks tougher than we’ve seen in a while. But our teams always get better as the season goes along. They haven’t always ended great. But there’s no denying they have developed and improved over the course of the season.
Maybe this team won’t get much better, and maybe we lose a few more games.
But the simple fact is- we don’t know yet.
As long as we have a “2” in the loss column, I’m saying 12-2. If we lose next week…okay we probably don’t win the division. So then I move to 10-3. I’d rather be “set up for disappointment” than to sit around and expect to lose.
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Who's sitting around waiting to lose?***
Oct 7, 2021, 6:06 PM
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People who are telling others to
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Oct 7, 2021, 7:23 PM
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“plan for the reality of our situation.”
What am I supposed to be planning for?
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Legend [16213]
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I'm not sitting around waiting to lose, I'm trying to shine
Oct 7, 2021, 9:08 PM
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a little light on those of you who think we're winning 12 games this season with an offense that can't consistently score in the 20s when playing FBS opponents...Sorry to rain on your parade with a dose of reality
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110%er [9015]
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I realize we may not go 12-2. I’m not betting money on that.
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Oct 7, 2021, 9:33 PM
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Don’t need a dose of reality. There’s plenty of that in life. So I’m just gonna enjoy believing my favorite sports team can win. Crazy concept…I know.
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Not if we don't have blocking or a functional QB.
Oct 7, 2021, 5:35 PM
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No offense can function without blocking and a QB. Should go without saying, but...
The OL may be gaining some continuity and improvement. If the QB can regain his confidence and get back to proven potential, then all the 4-5 star players will show up.
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It’s not about being 3-2 for me.
Oct 7, 2021, 7:13 PM
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It’s about how poorly our offense has looked all year, with what seems to be a lack of awareness and/or adjustments made to correct it.
My comments on us “being this bad” are based on the five games we have played so far.
You’re right, we could win out. That would be great!
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A little suprised and a little disappointed
Oct 7, 2021, 8:53 AM
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in you Judge Keller. You call out people for not supporting the team and coaches and criticizing and questioning things during basketball season (which I mostly agree with), but then you do what they do during football season. Is that not a little hypocritical?
IMO, some questioning and wondering what's wrong is ok, but a lot of it is over the top with constant, repeated criticism by some of the same posters and name calling and constantly wanting coaches and players replaced and really isn't necessary. That seems to be what you don't like during basketball season; I just hope that's not what you're being a part of during football season.
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Exactly. He's a hypocrite, transparent, and trolling
Oct 7, 2021, 5:46 PM
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He's the king of excuses and passive aggressiveness. He doesn't really know much about football and switches the reasons for our less-than-stellar start on a daily basis. He's just so eager to drag down the football program, and he actually thinks folks can't see straight through his garbage. Good call.
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For someone who just joined TigerNet two months ago
Oct 7, 2021, 7:24 PM
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you have pretty strong opinions about me.
What was your screen name before PeppaTiger?
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You’re right, I have been hard on our football coaches this year.
Oct 7, 2021, 7:10 PM
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I honestly just have a hard time understanding how we can be this bad on offense through five games with the talent and coaching staff we have. Other than Georgia, our schedule has not been hard, yet we can’t even score 20 points against power five teams. That’s really unacceptable.
I agree that we should not resort to name calling, and wanting coaches fired mid-season is over the top.
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Re: I am fully aware that a down year can happen.
Oct 7, 2021, 9:49 AM
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You are literally writing “I am fully aware that a down year can happen” then (only five games into a season) write that a down years like this shouldn’t happen “should it”?
“It does raise some questions” - Does it? What question does it ask exactly? More specifically what question does it raise that you don’t think the coaches aren’t already contemplating? Further, what question could you possibly ask that doesn’t ultimately fall under Dabo’s purview? So, 5 games into then 2021 season, after one of the greatest runs in college football history you’ve lost confidence in our head coach? I guess you have a contingency plan in mind? Or should Dabo start running the team by open sourcing his strategies from Tigernet?
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You’re right, our football coaches are perfect and have all of the answers.
Oct 7, 2021, 7:30 PM
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And any failures in our team’s performance are not due in any way to coaching or recruiting or game planning, but solely due to players not executing.
After all, our coaches have won two national championships!
Who are we to even utter their names, much less discuss our thoughts on a message board?
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Re: You’re right, our football coaches are perfect and have all of the answers.
Oct 8, 2021, 8:51 AM
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The Judge Keller special - obfuscation and straw manning. You didn’t answer a single question that I posed. Not one. Then pretended I asked questions I didn’t. Troll is against terms of service. So is thread jacking. Stay on topic. I did.
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Re: I am fully aware that a down year can happen.
Oct 7, 2021, 3:30 PM
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Questioning doesn't mean you disrespect the program. The same goes for the basketball program.
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Again with the silly flip-flopping.
Oct 7, 2021, 5:42 PM
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You're funny.
One day you admit because the key position on the field is struggling, then the next day you want to blame it all on the proven coaching (6 years >>> 5 games) when in reality there are ZERO offenses that can work when the OL has struggled to pass or run block, and the QB is unable to get out of his head.
6 years of great coaching, just tossed aside because its impossible to operate with the aforementioned constraints? Unreal.
You're funny. But then again, you know nothing about football and merely are relishing your opportunity to drag down the football program because it helps deflect from basketball.
Meanwhile the basketball coach is making $2.6M per year to get us to 3 tournaments every 11 years with a grand total of 2 wins.
Stick with the lame excuses for basketball. That's more your expertise.
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Who is tossing aside the last six years?
Oct 7, 2021, 9:47 PM
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Answer: not a single freaking person here.
The problem you and some others seem to have is being able to look at THIS year for what it is: a huge disappointment so far.
I think we have great coaches. They are great at what they do. But that doesn’t excuse them from being responsible for what has been a very underachieving football team so far on offense.
Some of you are so fast to defend them, as if criticism of the team is some attack on their previous accomplishments (or on you!).
Look, no one here is looking to discount our amazing success in previous years. What many of us are trying to do is understand how such phenomenal coaches with such talented players have an offense that is ranked near the bottom of FBS nearly halfway through the season. Can you please explain that?!?
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All-American [581]
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You are.
Oct 7, 2021, 11:25 PM
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Here we go again:
6 years >>>>> 5 games.
Again, what do you think is more likely - do you think the coaches forgot how to coach, or that a key position or two isn't playing well? Can't you see what's going on during the plays?? Obviously football isn't your thing, do you even watch the games?
Who tried to say this season ISN'T a disappointment? Are you okay? And whats that goofy analogy talking about taking "attacks" on the team is like taking an "attack" personally? So you're "attacking" the team now?
Of course coaches are 100% accountable for their issues. Just like Brad. No excuses. 11 years and not much to show for it is his fault.
But after 6 years of unprecedented, PROVEN success, the football coaching is obviously one of the best staffs in the country. The offense has been explosive, it's sxordd tons of points and kept teams off balance, and it's been more consistent than any one staff since 2015.
So is it more likely the offensive coaching is different this year, or is it more likely there's a lack of execution?
Myself and many others have explained dozens of times. The OL came out slow, and the QB is taking some time to work out the mental part of his game.
Without those two MOST important things, no offense can function. How many times has this be explained?
And before you go there, saying silly things like DJ isn't good and he wasn't highly recruited (lol 5-star top 2 player in the country), the QB is the same one who last year threw for 67% in 117 attempts and 914 yards, 3 TDs, and 0 INTs, and his QBR was 146.3. He also holds the all-time record for the biggest comeback in Death Valley history, and he holds the record for the most opponent passing yards in the long, storied history of Notre Dame.
So he has proven he can play.. in our offense.
This year he has 793 yards in 140 attempts. He down to 54% with 3 TDs and 3 INTs, and his QBR has dropped 41.7.
So yet again, what has changed, the mental makeup of the primary dude on the field, or the offensive strategy?
Anyone truly paying attention can see what's really going on, and its not that the proven offense has changed.
I do want to point out though you can see DJ getting more comfortable, and the OL seems to be coming around. So we'll see, but if the QB can regain his proven capability and confidence, and the OL continues to improve, with Pace and Mafah showing more of the same, we may actually have something brewing.
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What’s with the personal attacks?***
Oct 7, 2021, 9:47 PM
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Are you serious??
Oct 7, 2021, 11:30 PM
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You're getting emotional about being called a Brownell lover?
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Re: Here’s a list of teams who
Oct 8, 2021, 10:28 AM
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So in a ranking of prolific offenses based only on games between FBS opponents, the down ACC has 3 of the top 7.
And they’re all Coastal. Hmmm. Interesting.
We need to see how this plays out.
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Re: Here’s a list of teams who have won a national championship since Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 11:02 PM
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Danny Pearmans list of things to do tomorrow
1. Wipe down the slide 2. Go home
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Re: Here’s a list of teams who have won a national championship since Clemson
Oct 7, 2021, 7:44 AM
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Now that made me laugh
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Thanks BigAl31 for calling out the Judge...
Oct 7, 2021, 11:04 AM
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Apples in basketball are the same apples in basketball...right.
Really surprised by Judge Keller’s take on the football coaching staff when CBB just got an extension for his third tourney invite in eleven tries. ??
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No, it’s nowhere close to an apples to apples comparison
Oct 7, 2021, 7:32 PM
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between Clemson football and Clemson basketball.
That’s kind of the point. Clemson football literally has the best of everything it could possibly need or want. Meanwhile, basketball has to scratch and claw for most everything. Expectations should follow suit.
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Re: Here’s a list of teams who have won a national championship since Clemson
Oct 7, 2021, 1:27 PM
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Here is a list of teams that have won a National Title not named Clemson since Clemson's ACC dominance streak started in 2015
Bammy LSU Corndogs
You want to know the most interesting thing? Auburn (2010) is the last team to win its first NC since NC modern history began. Only repeat winners like Clemson have won it since 2010
Here is the list of champions since 1981 Auburn Texas Southern California LSU Ohio State Oklahoma Tennessee Michigan Florida Nebraska Florida St. Alabama Washington Georgia Tech Notre Dame Oklahoma Brigham Young Miami Penn State Clemson
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Re: Here’s a list of teams who have won a national championship since Clemson
Oct 7, 2021, 7:40 PM
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Where did this magical “modern” era come from? Only CU fans talk about it. Is UGA that ingrained in your head. With the fact that you can’t beat us (43-18-4), CU decided to declare a “modern” era of CFB? Of course it started in the 1981 season for so CU can say UGA hasn’t won a NC. What changed between the 1908 and 19081 season to make it the “modern” era?
#rentfree #bestisthestandard #DJUisbetterthanTL16 #haha
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Good thing we had great players.
Oct 7, 2021, 5:17 PM
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Because, according to one unnamed poster we only won more playoff games than anyone except Alabama, we played in 6 straight playoffs, we played in 4 of 6 national championships, and of course won 2 national championships solely because we trotted out good players and let them make whatever plays they wanted. It had nothing to do with play calling, outsmarting defenses, or putting us in position to be successful. Just trot out good players and the rest takes care of itself. Any old OC will do.
According to the same poster, we no longer have a 5-star QB, and we don't have 4-5 star running backs and WRs anymore either. So the players are no longer capable of just trotting out there, running whatever plays, and beating everyone.
We don't really need a proven playcaller. Just trot out 4-5 star players and the rest takes care of itself. And apparently the poster thinks we had the best talent in the universe, and that's why we're only one of 3 teams to win a natty in the last 6 seasons... because other teams don't have talent.
The poster was completely serious. That's how little he understands the game of football.
Anyways...
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