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Orange Blooded [3701]
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Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 2:42 PM
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Is this thing a laughing stock or sour grapes from SEC/ESPN empire?
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 2:44 PM
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Sour grapes.... There is power in numbers and we have the high ground! #GoTeamAlliance
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Sour Grapes. Trust me. As a member of the media I can tell u
Aug 25, 2021, 4:28 PM
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... ESPN is butthurt. This gives the SEC a backseat to ANY major decision on the college football front. As long as the "alliance" conferences vote together, they will outweigh the single vote of the SEC, every. single. time. And that infuriates the SEC and their biggest revenue partner, ESPN.
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All-In [30989]
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This the TRUE. Any1 can see right thru this
Aug 25, 2021, 2:49 PM
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...there were no agreements signed.
As soon as disney threatens to pull their BIG contract, the BIG will trade alliances quicker than Stalin.
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How can they pull a contract?
Aug 25, 2021, 2:51 PM
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They can threaten to not bid on future contracts, but i don't think they can do anything to get out of their current contract without paying major fees.
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All-In [30989]
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Yes.. which is why it is threat. Big s contact ends
Aug 25, 2021, 3:10 PM
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In 2023 ...so negotiations wil start next year.
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That's why I think it benefits THEM, not US
Aug 25, 2021, 3:44 PM
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The B1G benefits from the Alliance because it will HELP them with an even better TV deal.
We're stuck with the bad ACC Network deal, and the alliance can't help our schedules for over a decade.
The B1G may come out the big winners of the Alliance, but I just don't see how it helps us much at all other than our fears of what the SEC MIGHT have done in the future.
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The ACC will still have games on ESPN, ABC, and
Aug 25, 2021, 7:07 PM
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lesser games on the ACCN. Nothing in the BIG should scare Clemson. The only talented teams in the BIG are Ohio St., Penn State, and Michigan (although not right now). Ohio St. won their first game ever against Clemson last year. Overall, Clemson is 4-1 all time against Ohio St.
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That too. All bark .no bite in this alliance.. just a
Aug 25, 2021, 3:26 PM
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Big ole bluff that Disney can easily call.
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Re: This the TRUE. Any1 can see right thru this
Aug 26, 2021, 8:02 AM
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Disney pulls B1G contract and fix picks it up. Heck maybe Disney will pull our contract fornthe same reason. One can dream right? Still finding it hard to fathom that Clemson people still watch and give credence to that shoddy network. I'll watch ACC games and that is it. But still people seem to care what they have to say. Yoy DO realize there are other sports news and networks right?
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 2:52 PM
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Someone has finally crapped on the SUC/ESPN syndicate, and they don't like it.
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ESPiN real Salty
Aug 25, 2021, 2:59 PM
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All there affiliates in lock step.The mighty Sec is suddenly boxed in. All they got now is all Sec matchups . Anything else they gotta come hat in hand .. We hold the cards now. Only all conference matchups are gonna be super boring .
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they can still schedule 1-AA and the Big 12***
Aug 25, 2021, 3:28 PM
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 3:01 PM
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laughing stock...no meat all fluff.
Also it's probably illegal, also known as collusion. Ford, Chevy and Toyota can't all just decide to compare prices to beat Mercedes.
It's obvious OU and TX saw an opportunity, and the SEC was smart enough to say yes. The ACC would have done the same thing if they had come to them first. And you are lying if you say they wouldn't have.
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 3:06 PM
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"Nah... calling it your job don't make it right, boss."
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Calling it yo job, Ole hoss, show don't make it right.***
Aug 25, 2021, 6:37 PM
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Re: Calling it yo job, Ole hoss, show don't make it right.***
Aug 25, 2021, 7:25 PM
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Cool Hand Luke quote. Your quote is John Cougar. Both good quotes for this.
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Like ESPN/SEC
Aug 25, 2021, 3:06 PM
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Talking about collusion, obvious what SEC and ESPN did and Bowlsby called them out on it.
It is all coming into focus now. This whole thing about SEC expansion getting started with Texas reaching out is a joke. May be "technically" something like that got the ball rolling (or that is story they needed for cover) but this is pure an simple an ESPN power move in coordination with the SEC. A lot of circumstantial evidence all starting to fit together. ESPN wanted the CBS games, they got them. EPSN wants a 12 team playoff before 2026 when it would go out for bid and drive up the price and they are not guaranteed to get all the games. ESPN wanted out of BIG 12 contract, which could still happen.
I mean Bowlsby said flat out ESPN was meddling. I believe EPSN has serious exposure to legal action if it can be established they colluded with SEC, Texas and OK to tank the Big 12. ESPN took that into account (they have some of best lawyers money can buy) and figured any lawsuit by the Big 12 will cost them less they what they could make off exclusive playoff rights etc.
This whole Alliance thing is 95% to get some leverage with ESPN. The Alliance can be a pain for ESPN, especially with keeping them from getting the exclusive playoff rights. This is great leverage for the Big Ten and PAC 12 as they get ready to re-negotiate their TV deals. They can say ESPN you want that playoff before 2026 well offer us a good deal or our conference package. For the ACC obviously more tricky for contract not up until 2036. May be the Alliance holds and Big Ten and Pac 12 say we not budging on playoff unless you also re-negotiate ACC contract early. I am not holding my breathe on that but really the playoff leverage or ND joining ACC or really only hopes I see for ACC TV deal. It is all about crunching numbers and ESPN may find it more lucrative to just pay the ACC more if they can get the playoff and cover those costs and more.
Seems to me best strategy for SEC and and ESPN though would have been to wait until got playoff to 12 teams and that was likely going to happen before all of this. I think they jumped the gun and did not expect this reaction.
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Aug 25, 2021, 7:18 PM
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 3:13 PM
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IDK. Who is going to have the last laugh when they block the 12 game playoff and that diva Miss Texas realizes the best and easiest way to the beauty pageant(CFP) was beating out the uglier girls in the B12? Going to be much tougher to beat out Bama. Right Georgia?
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 3:32 PM
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42-18-3....sure thing little brother.
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 3:49 PM
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Why don't we play the next 11 games in Clemson to even up the home and home series? I'm sure that would tighten the series up a little.
Georgia 35 Games Played Clemson 24 Games Played Neutral 5 Games Played (Augusta, GA)
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 3:57 PM
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Also I can understand why you say little brother so much as a jawja fan everyone in your life is related to you in some way; most in multiple ways. Just cause your half brother, who also happens to be your cousin, lives in SC doesn’t mean we are related to you in any way.
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 5:37 PM
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just don't #### off his uncle daddy.
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41 years is a LOOOOONG time***
Aug 25, 2021, 7:21 PM
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We won the 81 NC...They were 80...
Aug 25, 2021, 9:58 PM
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3 NCs ago for us.
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Re: We won the 81 NC...They were 80...
Aug 25, 2021, 10:01 PM
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Thanks coot
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 3:35 PM
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C’mon Jawja fans shouldn’t try to use words with more than one syllable. Collusion doesn’t apply for many reasons not least of which are: these are not for profit organizations, congress has established precedent to exclude sports leagues from anti-trust laws, and they are not technically competing against one another for revenue at the detriment of the consumer.
Answer this; if it is collusion for 3 sports conferences to work together and set rules and standard why isn’t it collusion for 16 universities to work together to set rules and standards within the framework of a conference?
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 4:20 PM
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Won’t be able to prove collusion. Won’t vote for a 12 team play off so mighty SEC will be stuck with all these good teams and can only get 1 team and sometimes two in a 4 team playoff. Won’t go to 8 or 12 unless ACC, B1G, and PAC see the terms will benefit them. Have fun being 4th or 5th best in the SEC puppy
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 6:29 PM
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ok- I don't understand- SEC had 14 teams- Out of the 14 - Alabama- has and is always good. Georgia can recruit well- then fail with the best of them. LSU can go into the portal and build an awesome team for one year and then be crap for the next three. The prove the point has does LSU go from 5-5 to just outside the 10?
They added two teams- one is always back- but always finishes in the middle of the pack (TEXAS) and the you have Oklahoma- they seem to do alright- but I am thinking them to be so so in the SEC.
So I see still only two times getting into the playoff 1> Alabama 2. either Georgia or Oklahoma- No matter what- the SEC will always be overrated by everybody.
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 6:19 PM
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Oh, I'm sure the lawyers have already been involved and the legalities have been covered. As long as these schools provide the TV content that ESPN's contracts call for, there is nothing they can do.
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It's the SEC that is all fluff, IF the alliance can stick
Aug 25, 2021, 6:19 PM
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together! I hope the CFP expands to eight teams, but limits each conference to two teams! Then listen to the mighty SEC beech and moan when they have six teams ranked in the top 12, but only two can get in the CFP! OKie may soon wish they hadn't been so quick to jump!
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 9:39 PM
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Go away irrelevant puppy. Come back in 40 years to celebrate 80 years since you mattered!!!!
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 26, 2021, 8:04 AM
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I would certainly hope not. Now if you.had said UGa and Tennessee or Florida? Yes we would jump at the chance
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 3:02 PM
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If anything is a "laughing stock" it's ESPNU ,or as I commonly refer to it, The University of eSECpn!
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Orange Blooded [2929]
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The MORE it upsets ESPN, the better this Alliance
Aug 25, 2021, 3:08 PM
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really is. It's really that simple. As triggered as they are by this,leads one to believe this is better than any of thought it would be.
Of course,the BIG12's collusion lawsuit could be causing some of this.
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I think this is the PAC12's hail mary to stay relevant
Aug 25, 2021, 3:24 PM
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Just stay put and expand or don't expand. You know how many mediocre schools reside inteh Pac 12, Big 10 and ACC? Ya'll act like we'll be playing Michigan, USC and OSU .. more likely we'll get stuck with a home and home against Illinois or washington state.
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So what!?! Good grief every game doesn’t have to be the battle of
Aug 25, 2021, 3:42 PM
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the century.
This sport has gone to heck. There was nothing wrong with bowl games. There was nothing wrong with playing a couple small local schools every year. Every game doesn’t have to be Clemson vs Michigan or Ohio State or Southern Cal. It would be fun to play the occasional Illinois game or Cal or Colorado. Fun places to visit and explore.
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Exactly which is why i say just stay put. People want this
Aug 25, 2021, 5:12 PM
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alliance b/c they think its going to produce some monumental matchups every week. But all i see in this alliance is handcuffs. I say just leave it alone like you are saying.
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Those who can see the real advantage of this alliance, are
Aug 25, 2021, 6:23 PM
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blind!! The real issue isn't scheduling, but voting power!!
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I'm all for it. Anything to stick it to the SEC***
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Of course ESPN is trying to "clown" the alliance...
Aug 25, 2021, 3:52 PM
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The alliance clowned ESPN and the SEC yesterday. Stop being naive, the writing is on the wall here, the reign of terror is over.
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If the house of mouse doesn't like it
Aug 25, 2021, 4:25 PM
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It must be a good thing. The Six Flags of college football.
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 4:26 PM
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I'd say it's way to early to tell how this will all shake out. The Alliance can't possibly be an immediate threat, but may be trouble for the SEC down the road.
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 6:01 PM
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ESPN doesn't like that the Alliance has challenged them.
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 6:11 PM
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More than sour grapes. This is as much a response to academic standing as much as it is establishing a power position for the new alliance. The EsecPN, which is also an alliance, can respond to the power play but have no ammo, let alone an understanding of how to respond to the academics. ESPN's response will be what they've always done. Dig or create something to try and bring down the power programs of this new alliance and bury anything from their sec partner. Will get ugly.
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 6:16 PM
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Sour grapes. One of the things the Alliance wants to do is make sure the college football playoff goes to market when it’s up for renegotiation. If they renegotiate the CFP media rights before then, ESPN gets the exclusive rights. ESPN‘s little feelings are hurt.
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Doesn't Disney now own FOXSports also ?
Aug 25, 2021, 6:32 PM
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Re: Doesn't Disney now own FOXSports also ?
Aug 25, 2021, 6:46 PM
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The Fox Corporation (Murdoch) owns Fox Sports. Disney purchased 20th Century Fox. Sinclair owns the regional Fox Sports channels.
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Thanks, I knew they kept the News divsion,didn't know IF
Aug 25, 2021, 7:18 PM
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they kept the Sports division. It would be effed up if Disney owned both FOX and ESPN
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Sour grapes from ESPN and the SEC. I haven't heard any
Aug 25, 2021, 6:59 PM
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bashing of the Alliance Conferences. If ESPN kept everything the same, i.e. no SEC mega conference playoff, the Alliance would not have come together.
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 7:11 PM
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They got triggered by the creation of the Alliance….bless their hearts.
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SECSPN is pissed and so are the SEC schools and fans...
Aug 25, 2021, 7:15 PM
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Why do you think they can't stop talking about it? Its the first thing I've heard out of every SEC fan's mouth for the last two weeks. They are boxed in and they know it.
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The empire is concerned about their brand...$EC!***
Aug 25, 2021, 8:37 PM
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Re: Alliance getting “clowned” on ESPNU XM!!
Aug 25, 2021, 9:03 PM
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HBrown, I’m not one for loaded questions. You know that by now.
Just stop brother.
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