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Josh Pate representing the 1.5%.
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Oct 18, 2023, 12:25 PM
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Of Clemson fans who are CFB fans first, Clemson fans, second.
And he’s not wrong. The “faithful” on this board aren't “Clemson first”, they’re “Clemson-only”…..the old-age-homers, constantly bringing up how long they’ve been fans, as if that holds any water.
My father didn’t attend Clemson….but he put multiple kids through that University with his hard-earned money. To hear the Karen’s and 65-year-old Chad’s attempt to call anyone “bandwagon fans who didn’t attend CU” is a joke, at best. My dad loved Clemson more than the alma-mater that he played football for. Most of the CU grads I know have absolutely ZERO to do with the games or IPTAY….and they/I live in the upstate.
What most of you PRTM-degree-holder, Dabo-slobbers (and Dabo) can hold is common is that your arrogance is astounding and criticism is taken with an emotional toll.
Pate recognizes this as well but has to keep it “professional”……watching a coach, who’s had tremendous success, hire a load of feckless former-players, to coach, has already caught up with Clemson. Watching the same coach get out-coached by others who are “hungry” to win, when we CLEARLY are not (pointing at both coaches and players) is on full display as well.
Said it before, saying it again. CDS has about one more season to bury his arrogance and hire a staff that can produce results that equate to the fan expectations and the hundreds of millions they’ve donated to the program.
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Dabo has as long as he wants
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And deservedly so. The administration and school have made so much money off of Dabo, they will never move on from him no matter what. He has doubled the school's student body since taking over from 12k to over 24k and growing. His 11 million dollar salary is nothing compared to what he is making the university. He doesn't have to change his staff of NIL. I believe he will make changes, but he certainly doesn't have to "bury his arrogance" to remain the head coach.
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Re: Dabo has as long as he wants
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:50 PM
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Dabo had nothing to do with doubling the student body. And doing so was a terrible thing for the school.
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Dabo and the football success drove it
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Oct 19, 2023, 3:11 PM
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Just like at Bama, UGA, and every other successful football school. Kids want to go to football powers, if you don’t know the economics behind the growth, which is pretty common place knowledge …. I can’t help you. It’s not hard to understand.
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Re: Just couldn't be more wrong about that, dude.***
Oct 19, 2023, 8:32 PM
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So you think all the success in football and 2 national championships had nothing to do with boom that is Clemson University? 64,000 applicants for 4800 freshmen spots. 90% of that has come from the exposure that football success has brought.
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Oculus Spirit [77020]
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My guy, where did you come up with that from my response?***
Oct 19, 2023, 8:39 PM
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Re: Dabo has as long as he wants
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Oct 19, 2023, 8:02 PM
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So 8-4 seasons are ok now? Wow I never thought a true Clemson fan would ever put a man above our university. Yes he makes money for Clemson and has won 2 titles. College Football is now a billion dollar business and the rules of the game have been changed forever. If the Tigers do not return to the playoffs and advance trust this.. Dabo will not be there as long as ge wants. Money keeps him and a decline in that money will send him away. I for one could care less who coaches the Tigers as long as they win. Probably not popular here in Daboland, but use everything legal and some that's not just win!!
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Legend [19202]
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Yawn.
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Oct 18, 2023, 12:42 PM
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Dabo's doing a great job and keeping it positive for all. Some of y'all kinda full of yourselves when you see a couple of losses and equate it to program failure. It is not. Program is fine thank you. Go Tigers!!!!
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Re: Yawn.
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Clemson is 5-4 in their last 9 games.
Wins over Charleston, FAU and Syracuse. Congratulations are obviously due.
Yawn away.
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Legend [19202]
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Actually this team has only lost 2.
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Oct 18, 2023, 12:52 PM
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Every year is a new team in cfb. New players, new coaches, etc.
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Re: Yawn.
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:01 PM
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And 15-5 in their last 20 games, or 26-8 in their last 34 games. Stats can be misleading if not applied correctly in context. That also includes wins over North Carolina who's undefeated.
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Mascot [22]
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A win over UNC, indeed.
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:07 PM
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Let’s not leave out that UNC admitted not having prepped for any other QB than DJU in that loss…..or that Drake Maye was a freshman when Clemson played him.
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Re: A win over UNC, indeed.
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:14 PM
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Who the #### cares if they didn't prepare for Cade. They knew DJU had struggled and that they needed to be ready for Cade to come in if it continued. Chizik hasn't been able to field a defense in over a decade and Mack could never coach to begin with, he was just a great recruiter. That's cute, Drake Maye was a freshman????? So was Cade. What's your point?
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Re: A win over UNC, indeed.
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:40 PM
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Perhaps it’s the fact that Drake was the starter and we hours of film on him. They had little to none on Cade and prepped accordingly. So, unless we have a magical QB we can pull out of our ### every game, that no one’s really seen in action, we have a problem. Mack Brown also won a natty at Texas….so your point is moot is more ways than one.
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Re: A win over UNC, indeed.
Oct 18, 2023, 2:05 PM
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You think Mack winning 1 Natty at Texas makes the point moot? Mack had 1 Natty and a whopping 2 conference championships with all that talent he pulled in, in 16 seasons. That's not top notch coaching. In fact, that's all Mack has won in his entire career, but feel free to tell me how wonderful he is as a coach. You're telling me you'd be content with 2 conference titles and one Natty under Dabo in that same time span? Your posts would suggest not.
There you go, talking out of both sides of your mouth. So, Goodwin doesn't get credit for shutting down Maye because he had hours of film on him, and the UNC coaches aren't at fault because they had no film on Cade and didn't prepare for him? Just making sure I've got the angle correct on that one. Let's just overlook the fact that UNC's defense didn't appear to prepare for any QB's last season.
Are you expecting Dabo to come out and blast his coaches midseason? That's not going to happen and has never been the way he operates. Hell, he praised Streeter up to the point that he fired him last year, and he'll do the same this year with guys like Austin, Grisham, Spiller, and Richardson. Doesn't mean change aren't coming, but he's not going to tip his hand before that.
Nobody is happy with 4-2, but it is what it is and we've got to play with who we've got and Riley will need to figure out who his horses are and start building around that. I think we all expected a much smoother transition than this, but there's growing pains, and as much as I like Pate, he's very hit or miss. He claimed all up to the FSU game that it was going to be a referendum on using the portal or not. That was not the case in the slightest as the portal is not why we lost that game (but rather bad coaching in terms of teaching a 3rd year back how to pass block).
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Re: A win over UNC, indeed.
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Oct 18, 2023, 2:32 PM
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“Are you expecting Dabo to come out and blast his coaches midseason?”
Nope. But never expected him to go after fans for calling out clear failures in development and hires - and complaining about Covid-scholarships while offering nepotistic scholarships to nobodies….and then go after fans.
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I don't blame him
Oct 19, 2023, 8:00 PM
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for calling you guy out. He's probably tired of you guys taking shots at him and his team/coaches. that's what a leader does.
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there was talk all week
Oct 19, 2023, 7:57 PM
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leading up to the game that Cade would see playing time if DJ struggled. which at the time was almost a certainty, That's just bad coaching
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Re: Yawn.
Oct 19, 2023, 8:05 PM
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You're only as good as your last performance. In business we use it as only as good as your last shipment. That mentality drives a perfectionist pursuit daily. Resting on past achievements will put a business in bankruptcy and a coach in a new city!!
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Never Go Full Coot***
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:25 PM
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Mascot [22]
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Youre still angry that I called you out
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Oct 18, 2023, 12:56 PM
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….for being one of the pants-sh*tting elders that simps for cds’ bad decisions?
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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No, but I am thoroughly entertained by stupid people...***
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Oct 18, 2023, 12:57 PM
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You and yours are a big reason that keeps me coming back.
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Mascot [22]
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Agreed.Ive felt the same for Clemson delusional
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:01 PM
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….that spend half of their retirement on TNet….
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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I see now, maybe the English isn't your first language...***
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Re: I see now, maybe the English isn't your first language...***
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:08 PM
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Lame.
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Re: Perhaps you didn't understand and need it in crayon?
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:18 PM
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Could you draw the picture for me as well? That would be very helpful to some of us 
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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Haha, no, but I promise I typed this slower just for you...***
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:21 PM
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Re: Haha, no, but I promise I typed this slower just for you...***
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Hang on, I'm almost done reading it...
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So that's a yes, and after reading how many yards were put...
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:38 PM
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up vs Wake according to you, I've no doubt you need help with Duke.
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Re: So that's a yes, and after reading how many yards were put...***
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Re: So that's a yes, and after reading how many yards were put...***
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:46 PM
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Don't know that as your smartest post ever, but would not vote against it.
Here, in case you need something to work with?
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Mascot [22]
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really hanging in to that one past that had you swallowing
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Oct 18, 2023, 1:55 PM
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Heart pills like tic-tacs? 😂😂
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Re: really hanging in to that one past that had you swallowing
Oct 18, 2023, 2:01 PM
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Heart pills like tic-tacs? 😂😂
If you don't want to look stupid, then I suggest you stop being stupid. Don't hate me or anyone else for pointing it out.
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Mascot [22]
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confusing hate again?
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Oct 18, 2023, 2:24 PM
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Set your emotions aside Cap’t Old Balls.
No one cares about posts from old folks except those looking for conversation from the comfort of their retirement villa.
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No, but you seem to have unresolved emotional issues...
Oct 18, 2023, 2:39 PM
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with your gdad, an uncle, maybe both?
Did they tuck you into bed one too many times at night? Whatever it is, lashing out as you do only galvanizes my position. Many times stupid people are angry as well, as they become the emotionally encumbered, knee-jerks, too often because they are easily confused by relatively uninvolved enigmas and conundrums. You know, just like you.
And no one's really hanging in to that one past, it's so many others since 7.22.16, including the quoted ones of yours in this thread.
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Neither actually. Both were good men.
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Oct 19, 2023, 2:55 PM
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You’re a aging clown that spends all day seeking TU’s from elderly group-think
It is what it is.
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Re: Neither actually. Both were good men.
Oct 19, 2023, 3:00 PM
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Sure, but his grammar is better.
Oct 19, 2023, 8:27 PM
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Plus, you kinda sound like a woman. A masculine one albeit, but a woman nonetheless.
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Re: Josh Pate representing the 1.5%.
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more winning, less talking, criticizing or complaining
just my .02
reminds me of a musical artist going on a political diatribe
just play the song dude - that’s what people paid for
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Re: Josh Pate representing the 1.5%.
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Mario Crystobal came into Miami and hired several high profile assistants, with both college and NFL experience, and has recruited well. His record right now at Miami is 9-9.
So, whether it is promoting from within or going outside, his record does not reflect that his way was the right one. We are coming off an ACC championship year and an Orange Bowl birth so the sky is definitely not falling. We have an offense in transition and that has been challenging in our losses. I'm excited to see how we finish and even more excited to see this team next year, with another year of experience under their belts, and a lot of new talent coming in that should help.
I've been critical myself in several areas but I have not given up on Dabo or this team. I still think the future has a lot to look forward to.
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Nope...
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You sound very coot-like. That you think Dabo is potentially a year away from a "hot seat" speaks to severe delusion.
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Mascot [22]
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Heard the same thing about:
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Caldwell leaving
Elliot leaving
Streeter getting canned
Everyone of these had the “Clemson faithful” backed their bad coaching. All are now gone. As mentioned earlier, money talks, and if wins don’t follow the money, the money stops flowing.
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Re: Nope...
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You sound very coot-like. That you think Dabo is potentially a year away from a "hot seat" speaks to severe delusion.
You sound like one of the elderly gob-slobbers on TNet that the retirement staff allows on to the internet for 30 mins a day.
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Re: Josh Pate representing the 1.5%.
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Oct 18, 2023, 2:35 PM
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Another egotistical, narcissistic, still wet behind his dummied down ears young child.
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Re: Josh Pate representing the 1.5%.
Oct 19, 2023, 3:15 PM
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It always amuses me how goobers like the OP think they know how to run a football program. SMH
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