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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
Nov 26, 2023, 11:10 AM
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I caught that as well.
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:13 AM
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In this single circumstance, it worked to our benefit and it worries me that Riley was having to be told to run the ball more when that was CLEARLY the best way for us to win the game
On the other hand, if you are going to bring in a coordinator and pay them 2milion dollars, you need to step out of the way. If you feel you have to micro manage that guy, either you don't have the right guy, or you are being a control freak
I don't mind head coaches stepping in and making final decisions that they feel must be made, but if you are doing it to a point that you are interrupting an offensive coordinators gameplan it could lead to big problems
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:24 AM
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Controlling the game means no offensive touchdowns? Settling for fumble return and fieldgoals is enough? Hire a leading coordinator of the modern game and second guess him? Glad we won but it was a snoozer of a game.
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:26 AM
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I am afraid we just don’t have the QB for slinging it around even taking into account the issues at receiver. Problem is our offensive system needs a Boyd or Watson or Lawrence who can sling it but also run. Cade might get closer next year but needs a lot of growth and a QB whisperer. Vizzina is pro style and not the runner but I do expect him to push Cade. I expect improvement from Cade but afraid I don’t see 11 or 12 wins next year. We have lots of work to do on offense. It cost us 2-3 games this year. Maybe we get that down to 1-2 next year.
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
Nov 26, 2023, 11:43 AM
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Why doesn’t someone ask Dabo why will he do different ext season on offense. Cade is not 5 star QB. We will be A mediocre team unless offense improves.
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I knew this debate was coming....
Nov 26, 2023, 11:20 AM
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whatever, the calls worked.
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Every time CK dropped back last night
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:25 AM
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I got a nervous twitch, running more was a prudent thing.
Just pointing out that what Dabo said.
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Re: Every time CK dropped back last night
Jan 17, 2022, 8:21 AM
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Yes bc they had a 3 man front dropping 8. We should’ve ran more early than we did.
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
Nov 26, 2023, 11:27 AM
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I think that his comments were more of an indictment on Cade. Also, he doesn’t want a repeat of last year when our former OC should have kept running the ball.
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I love Clemson and always will ...
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:33 AM
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but based on this scenario, if true, Riley Garrett and Cade Klubnik should leave the Tigers in their own best interests.
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This is the one time of Dabo interfering in the offense im ok with
Nov 26, 2023, 11:42 AM
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There's no way Cade should have been slinging it around last night. We are lucky he only had the 1 int.
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Yep, probably why we run so many worthless lateral plays.
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:51 AM
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They are "safe" in Dabo's eyes. "Just like a handoff" as he's said before.
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I agreed with Dabo. We were throwing it a bit too much for my
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:51 AM
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perceptions of this season and what was happening in that game last night.
I don't think it was a sign of anything other than a head coach doing his job managing the game.
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
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Nov 26, 2023, 12:04 PM
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Dabo's ~ $10 million trumps Riley's $2 million and I think going into the game, Dabo knows what kind of team he has. Running the ball, clock control and defense was the way to go last night.
And the Tigers won.
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
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Nov 26, 2023, 12:59 PM
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Imagine that: A head coach making game management decisions.
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There isn't anything shocking to me about a head coach controlling
Nov 26, 2023, 1:50 PM
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his team's overall game plan like Dabo did last night. We were more loose on O in the first half and out of the gates in the 2nd when we promptly went up by 2 scores. From that point on, we weren't going to do anything to beat ourselves, while shutting SCar down over and over. That time of possession number we had last night was exactly how Spurrier manhandled us regularly over his big run. We totally sucked the oxygen out of SCar's offense by not giving them any momentum. That was a big boy W last night and great to be on the right side of that game for the year ahead.
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Well thank god for Dabo. An OC wanting to
Nov 26, 2023, 2:25 PM
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throw it around last night would’ve been taking undo risks.
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Maybe, just maybe....
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Nov 26, 2023, 2:32 PM
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.... there was a game plan that called for a better mix of passes and runs.
And, maybe - just maybe, as the game went along it became clear that the defense was totally controlling the game and the best option was to run the ball and not risk a turnover.
Maybe, just maybe, Riley was asking Dabo between offensive series, "Do you want to stick with the game plan?" and Dabo said, "No, just run the ball."
Maybe, just maybe, it wasn't any disagreement between Riley and Dabo, but just the OC and HC affirming they were on the same page.
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Re: Maybe, just maybe....
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Nov 26, 2023, 2:42 PM
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"I love to throw the ball, I love throwing around, but I don’t think I’ve ever said 'no' more than I have tonight because the type of game it was. Just felt like we had great control of it."
“Saying no more than I have tonight” doesn’t sound like 2 guys in agreement…
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Re: Maybe, just maybe....
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Nov 26, 2023, 3:21 PM
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What’s with the smart ### response?
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He knows his team isn't going to the playoffs***
Nov 26, 2023, 4:29 PM
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Sorry, didn't mean it that way.
Nov 8, 2024, 9:17 PM
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I just looking at it from a different perspective.
Maybe Dabo was talking about saying no to himself. "Dabo, I like to throw the ball." "No, Dabo, you don't need to do that." "Dabo, can I throw it a little more than I am now." "No, Dabo, just keep running the ball."
Maybe he was having to keep telling himself, as much as Riley, not to throw the ball.
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
Nov 26, 2023, 2:44 PM
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I read his lips when he was yelling at Riley during a time out. Dabo said: "No throws. I don't want to throw the ball." That lets you know right there who is running this decrepit offense.
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
Nov 26, 2023, 3:07 PM
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Well this was one case where Dabo was right on the call. What will fix this is to get us a seasoned QB from the portal until one of these new guys shows they can be the man
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
Nov 26, 2023, 3:04 PM
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Ray Charles could see this was going on
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Anybody who doesn't think he has input on the plays is either not paying
Nov 26, 2023, 4:27 PM
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attention or lying because they previously insisted he wasn't involved in the playcalling...It's either/or
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
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Nov 26, 2023, 4:58 PM
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I get it, Cade never seems to even have a rhythm or look comfortable, let alone in control. The running game looked consistent, so thats what he gave thumbs up to. Somehow, Cade has gotten off on the wrong foot-forcing every play and acting like every play is a last-ditch effort to win the game that he has to hold on to the ball and make happen “or else.” Part of his early experience on field was coming in after Big Cinco had stunk it up and we were down, and it molded him, apparently, into a frantic nervous wreck of a game manager who can’t see the forest for the trees. He’s either got to move on to somewhere with less talent, less pressure, and less opposition and play easier ball, or reset and relax and realize he has to get rid of it within 2.5 and throwing it away early is totally allowable and will help the coaches engage with the receivers.
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Re: Interesting comment from Dabo on calling offensive plays
Nov 26, 2023, 5:21 PM
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Whoever called the plays it was ugly on offense. Yes we won and that’s great but the offense was atrocious
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As the Head Coach
Nov 26, 2023, 5:26 PM
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He should have veto power on whether it's a run or pass. Assistants do not have autonomy to just call whatever they want. And veto is not the same as calling the play
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As the Head Coach
Nov 26, 2023, 5:26 PM
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He should have veto power on whether it's a run or pass. Assistants do not have autonomy to just call whatever they want. And veto is not the same as calling the play
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