Clemson Press Conference Quotes on Monday
Shaq Lawson: I wasn't really thinking about a championship. I know I didn't win any championships in high school and I played with a couple teammates that went to Clemson so our goal was to come back and play with each other and try to win a National Championship at Clemson, so that was the reason why I came to Clemson.
Q. Has it been kind of surreal to you to get to this
SHAQ LAWSON: Oh, yes, sir. It's been a special
season for us, me just enjoying the journey and all the
hard work paying off for us.
Q. What was different about this season for you?
Obviously you were more productive this season.
Did something click or did they use you differently
or more pressure to be the guy more?
SHAQ LAWSON: I'd say playing more. I played behind
Vic Beasley last year so my snaps was limited. But
after I did what I had to do this year, I just stepped my
leadership role up and just got better every week, and
my game got better. That's pretty much what I learned
from them guys like Vic and guys that's been in the
program longer than me, how they had to sit there and
wait their time, so that's pretty much what I had to do.
Q. You guys obviously have a lot of talent but there
was also a lack of experience. At what point along
the process, whether it's spring, fall, X number of
games in, at what point did you say, wow, we're up
to this task?
SHAQ LAWSON: I'd say after the Notre Dame game,
after we got the two point conversion stop, and that
really defined where our team was at and how good we
really was after that game. The games before that I
couldn't really tell where we was at because we hadn't
played nobody good like that, but after that Notre Dame
game, I knew our team was where we needed to be.
Q. What do you like about this defense?
SHAQ LAWSON: We're hungry. We like getting better
every day. We're all brothers off the field, so that just
makes us play better on the field together with each
Q. What has Brent Venables done for you just as an
influence in your life to help you develop?
SHAQ LAWSON: He helped me develop a lot. If you
see him every day as a coach, he's just excited about
defense, and he just helps put us in the right position to
make plays. Our defense is so good, and our scheme
the scheme he's got for us makes the players that
Q. What did you learn from Beasley and those guys
in terms of your off the field work? Did they show
you how to practice?
SHAQ LAWSON: No, sir. Really I always liked to
practice starting in high school. They just told me how
to lead on the field and off the field. They were just
giving me examples how to lead, and you don't always
got to lead by always saying something, so stuff like
Q. Why do you love practice? I think most people
would probably say I don't like practice, I just like
SHAQ LAWSON: Because you've got a chance to get
better every day, just waking up knowing you can go do
what you love to do and practice, that makes us better.
Q. Where else were you looking in high school?
SHAQ LAWSON: Tennessee, University of Tennessee.
I was about to go there, but I'm glad I stayed at home
Q. What changed, because you are a local guy, so
was that difficult to potentially leave the state?
SHAQ LAWSON: I'd say my family reason, after my
pops died, I just wanted to be closer with my brothers
and little sister, so that pretty much changed my
Q. You guys have played some mobile
quarterbacks. What do you have to do differently
against Baker because he's run so much and
scrambled and taken off?
SHAQ LAWSON: We can't let him hit us with the ball
fade. We've just got to make sure we contain the ball
at all times. The kid is fast, unbelievable when you
watch him on film. We've got to be on edge every time.
Q. You mentioned a minute ago that it takes a
certain kind of patience to play here. Did you know
that going in or was it a bit of a shock that you
were going to have to wait your turn?
SHAQ LAWSON: Oh, I knew that going in I'd have to
wait my turn, coming in late because I had went to
Hargrave and all that, and I knew Vic was there, and I
knew I had to wait, and I knew I had to just be patient
and my time was going to come.
Q. Was waiting difficult for you?
SHAQ LAWSON: Oh, no. I had to wait I didn't qualify
out of high school coming into Clemson. I had to go to
Hargrave for a semester, so I'm used to waiting and
that kind of stuff. So that really helped me in that
process from going to Hargrave to Clemson and
waiting to get my chance to play.
Q. Hargrave is kind of a humbling experience, isn't
SHAQ LAWSON: Oh, yes, sir, it is. It makes you a
better person, a better man, just gives you instruction
in life and everything. I'm really glad I experienced it,
to get to go to Hargrave. It's part of the change in me,
and I'm really kind of glad I went to Hargrave. At first I
didn't want to go, but I got used to what I had to do and
stuff, and it wasn't that bad at all.
Q. I heard you had to walk like a mile or a half a
mile to practice. What was that like?
SHAQ LAWSON: Oh, that was bad. You had to walk
up a dirt hill, rocks, past a graveyard. That's why they
called it The Grave, all the way to practice, pushed
sleds 500 yards during practice. It was a tough
experience for us. It just made me better and made it
more easier when I got to Clemson.
Q. When did you lose your dad?
SHAQ LAWSON: I'd say going into my senior year, my
junior year, as a matter of fact, during spring football,
high school, I had lost him to a car accident.
Q. That made you want to stay in South Carolina?
SHAQ LAWSON: Yeah, that situation, I always wanted
to be away from home, so I probably wouldn't have
changed things, but God had a plan for me, and it all
Q. You were looking at Texas early on?
SHAQ LAWSON: Tennessee.
Q. Your mom and sisters want you to stick around?
SHAQ LAWSON: That didn't really matter. It was just
the best fit for me and best fit for the school, what they
bring to the program.
Q. Generally what's it been like to be a part of this
defense? You've seen it go from getting 70 points
four years ago to what it is now.
SHAQ LAWSON: Oh, it's a crazy change. I remember
seeing then in junior year of high school watching
giving up 70 points to West Virginia, and the change
over the years came, just different players developed
for us and started it for us like Branch and all those
guys, Brandon Thomas, they started it for us and made
the defense that much better and we've just been
following up with it.
Q. Did you grow up a Clemson fan?
SHAQ LAWSON: Oh, yes, I used to work at a
concession stand when I was younger, used to sit in
and watch the games and jump over the stands and try
to get some gloves from anybody. That was pretty
much what I did growing up as a Clemson fan. I used
to watch back when Kevin Youngblood and all those
guys played and Charlie Whitehurst and all them. So
I've been looking at Clemson since I was younger.
Q. Could you see the field from the concession
SHAQ LAWSON: Oh, no, not really. I used to try to get
a break, sneak down there and try to get the coach's
attention. I used to play video games and act like I was
when I was playing with Clemson, I used to
commentate like I was a commentator out there and
everything. It was just crazy that now I'm playing for
Q. Just describe the season that you've had, how
much the team was going to be relying on you this
Kevin Dodd: Just the team, I was losing two great
defensive pass rushers, and just knowing that I had to
fill the spots and basically get the job done, and in the
locker room a lot was going to be expected out of me
because a lot was expected out of the guys ahead of
me, so they left a lot on the line. Just knowing that I
have to fill those shoes and need to do better, so I
trained the hardest I ever did this off season, just
putting myself in a position to make plays.
Q. What did that entail, your training?
KEVIN DODD: Just the normal things that we did at
Clemson with the regular with the team, and at home
I probably ran like three miles. I ran my whole
neighborhood, which was like a total of three miles. I
tried to stay in shape because anybody can play at a
high level for the first three quarters, but if you can play
at a high level in the fourth quarter, that says a lot
Q. What do you think about the match ups that's
been build as Baker against Deshaun? Just what
do you think about the challenge of going up
against Baker and what's the approach you guys
KEVIN DODD: He's a great player just like Deshaun.
We're just going to keep him in the pocket and come
after him and do what we do against all great
Q. Is that what the game comes down to, each
team trying to keep the guy in the pocket?
KEVIN DODD: Pretty much. They have a great
quarterback and we have a great quarterback. The
games come down to players making plays, and their
players got to make plays and our players got to make
plays. Simple as that.
Q. When you first came to Clemson was your
primary thought winning championships or did you
like the fact that it was kind of like a family
atmosphere that would help you grow as a player
and a person?
KEVIN DODD: I saw a team on the come up with all
these great players. Freshmen were coming in and
doing unbelievable stuff such as Sammy Watkins and
stuff like that, all that, just starting as a freshman, and
just the environment around Clemson. That's why I
Q. Can you take anything from last year or is it
KEVIN DODD: It's going to be the same approach,
same approach as last year. We have to execute the
game plan and pretty much get after their players. It's
pretty much the same thing as last year. We've got to
make our plays and they've got to make their plays,
and whoever executes the best, it's simple.
Q. Do they look different to you?
KEVIN DODD: The quarterback, he's something
serious, something that we've really got to take into
consideration. He's a great player. He has all the skill
sets to dominate this game, and if we take him for
granted, this game could get out of hand early, so
we've definitely got to handle this quarterback, and
their backs. They have great backs, two great backs.
So yeah, we've got to respect those guys, as well.
Q. No one is really talking about the backs because
everyone is focusing on the quarterbacks.
Obviously you played D line last year, but what
have you seen about the combo of Perine and
Mixon that presents a challenge?
KEVIN DODD: One is more elusive. Perine, he's a
hard one, and that's going to be the talk of the game,
who tackles the best. These guys are going to be hard
to get down. It's going to be tough to get these guys
down so we're going to have to wrap them up.
Q. How has the week gone so far?
D.J. Reader: The week has gone good. Got that first
practice out of the way yesterday. So it's been good.
It's good to be down here, good weather. I mean, we
feel good. Yesterday playing, just knocking off the rust
off and finally getting back to contact after that long
break that we had.
Q. What does this defense think about Baker
Mayfield and the way he can what kind of
pressure does that put on you guys?
D.J. READER: You know, it's a hard game plan. He's a
great player. Reminds us a lot of what we play against
in practice. He's a pretty good player. He's a
competitor. That's what we've seen from him on film.
He really likes to compete, and he's a leader, and his
team feeds off his energy, so yeah, it's good to go
against a player like that, and we're excited to get out
there and play against him.
Q. What do you do what he's scrambling in the
pocket and trying to find somewhere to go? How
do you keep him there, contain him?
D.J. READER: You just try to fill your lane, your rush
lanes, man, and really just try to get him on the ground.
I watch a lot of film and watch him escape tackles and
it's amazing to watch because it's not like he's the
biggest guy, but he's crafty with his feet, he's got good
balance. He, like I said, competes and wants to make
every play. Really just got to have control of the rush
lanes, can't get out of the gap or he's going to expose
you. He does a great job at what he does. So we've
just got to really get him on the ground and make sure
we have controlled rushes.
Q. Do you see any of Watson's tendencies in him,
D.J. READER: I think he's a great player. Deshaun is a
great player. They're different in their own aspects. So
I mean, I think both of them are really competitors and
both leaders. That's really the comparison I can tell
you. Other than that, you know, they're both really
good. Baker has got 35 touchdowns on five picks this
year. He's having a great year, so you can't argue with
what he's done. He's done a great job for them.
Q. Does he remind you of Johnny Manziel at all?
D.J. READER: Yeah, like the way he competes, wants
to extend plays. He does a great job at taking care of
the ball, obviously, with only five picks. He's very
productive, and he's a leader. He feeds off that energy.
He's not afraid to sometimes put his head down,
maybe fight for those extra yards. Yeah, you definitely
see those characteristics out of him.
Q. Do you have a favorite story about Coach
D.J. READER: Do I have a favorite story about Coach
Venables? Probably my funniest story is probably last
year playing South Carolina, Coach V, Vic has a strip
sack, and the ball is just on the ground, and Coach V
there's almost two yards on the field floating at the ball,
and our strength coach has to grab him and pull him
back and then finally recovered it, but he's that intense.
That's the funniest part about Coach V. There's always
intensity, and it's kind of cool to see him flip that switch
and be one of the guys whenever practice is over, and
he goes right back to being one of the guys. He's just
a normal guy, so it's pretty cool.
Q. What are some of the hallmarks of his intensity?
I can think of the eyes.
D.J. READER: He chews five different flavors of gum at
practice, and when you just see him like it's like the
end of practice. During the game, middle the game,
he'll start chewing so hard. That gets me every time,
like he's really chomping down. He's so intense right
now. I think that's like the part that gets me. Maybe his
spasms of yelling. He'll go from such a high yell to
calm right in the next second, so it's just like those
parts really get me about Coach Venables. He can tell
he's into those moments.
Q. You obviously had a lack of experience. At what
point, whether it was spring or fall or the Notre
Dame game did you say we're up for this?
BRENT VENABLES: Yeah, you know, I know we were
replacing both lines. We had one starter returning on
the offensive and defensive lines. To say we would be
in a College Playoff, I would have checked into an
insane asylum. I remember thinking back to the
Louisville game, there's no way in heck we're going to
be able to win how are we going to find a way to win
that game, four days' preparation, going on the road at
their place. That's how I kind of think let alone get to
Notre Dame. I never passed Louisville, and how are
you going to stop the last time we played Wofford
they should have beat us. That's kind of the world I
lived in when you're asking me to go back and reflect,
let alone losing all those monsters we had on defense
a year ago.
My thing is leadership, toughness, and then we had no
depth, so more snaps, durability. But leadership and
play making, there's really three positions that I was
really concerned. Linebacker was one, particularly B.J.
Goodson, our middle linebacker, and then our
defensive end, Kevin Dodd, had no real track record,
B.J. had no real track record, and then Cordrea
Tankersley had no real track record. Those three guys
that we were going to be counting on was really big,
and then their maturation, all three of them, had far
exceeded my expectations. Those three have played
outstanding this year, and have been to me that's not
to downplay anybody else, but those three guys
because I know we had enough guys that had played
at the other positions, would be huge.
So again, I knew we were going to be good.
Everybody else doubted us, but I never did (laughter),
I'm usually not that guy, and I'm not Debbie Downer
and I'm not a negative person. I'm a perpetuator of the
positive, high energy, confidence, let's go, but I was
worried about beating Wofford and stopping the option.
That's really it's just one game at a time.
Q. Shaq said that he thought the Notre Dame game
was incredibly important for their confidence.
Would you agree?
BRENT VENABLES: Confidence?
Q. He said that the way the Notre Dame game
ended, he said you said something about, okay, we
can trust ourselves, we know what we're doing.
BRENT VENABLES: Yeah, we can screw it up and
then find a way to get out of our own way, yeah. That
was a great stop and that was a great play in our
season. I was talking on the other side, and watching
Oklahoma, and I tweeted Boomer, and of course I don't
really tweet impulsively. I'm usually calculated for
recruits. That's all I ever do. And then I'm like, yeah,
that was a great win. Man, what a season defining win
that can be for Oklahoma, when they beat Tennessee
after being 17 down, and as a fan of Coach Stoops,
Joe Castiglione, President Ford, the Sooners, I was so
pumped. Wow, I can't remember that was before or
after our Notre Dame, but that was a wow stop. I'm
like, what just happened? I was so peeved still about
that little pick route they ran for the touchdown, the
fade route, because we were in a good coverage and
we had one player wave off the coverage and he was
going to run his own coverage, so I was still mad about
that, and we just won that game and we got that stop.
That was a heck of a play. But they had scored on that
Q. Have you watched last year's Oklahoma game?
BRENT VENABLES: Yeah, we haven't watched it at all
on defense. We haven't watched it at all.
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Q. Why is that?
BRENT VENABLES: Well, they've got all new coaches
coaching different positions and a completely new
scheme. You know, I could tell you right now, I think
Ronnie popped one, and I could tell you the defensive
call and formation. I don't need to really watch it. He's
a great player. Sterling is probably a shell of himself
even though he's cleared and healthy, because it really
has nothing to do with this year for us. It's just a
different animal. But it's really the schemes as much
Q. (Inaudible) the result of that game.
BRENT VENABLES: Yeah, that doesn't matter. That's
living in la la land. Every year you play, you've got to
start over and you have to earn everything again.
You've got to tear everything down from week to week,
season to season. You look at Oklahoma and look at
where they feel like they are mentally from their last
game from a year ago, and now all of a sudden they
lost their bowl game, they have no momentum, and
they're going to get rid of everybody, and it's time for
Coach Stoops to go and everything else. I know that
animal, whether it's at Oklahoma or whether it's at
Clemson or it's at Bowling Green. It doesn't matter,
whether it's at Texas. You're always a week away from
humility. It's a very fragile game, and a lot of times, win
or lose, it comes down to having really good players,
and then having really good players play well, and then
you've got to coach them well, too, don't get me wrong.
But look where they are one year later, or even less
than that. They went from that last game to then look
at the run that they've had.
Q. Is it an advantage now for Oklahoma since you
were coaching there?
BRENT VENABLES: I don't really believe in that.
Q. You don't?
BRENT VENABLES: Yeah, I just don't. I think going
into last year, they had a very good offense, and they
said, well, Trevor Knight killed Alabama in their last
bowl game, and Clemson hadn't seen a Big 12 offense,
so there's always that story line, and then you've just
got to kind of go in and find that game. We weren't 46
better. Everybody knows that. Turnovers are always a
big part of the game and momentum, and things went
our way, and some things didn't go their way, a few
plays, and next thing you know it gets out of hand. But
that was last year. I really think it has zero to do they
might think different. I don't really care, and it doesn't
affect me and it doesn't affect us what they think. It
really affects what affects this game is how we think
and our preparation and how we practice today. It
really is that simple. I think when you get ahead of
yourself I don't know, I have too much consumption
on today's third downs, you know, and I think when you
get your players to buy into that, I think ultimately you
have more success than failure.
Q. When you break away and go out on your own
and you're involved in putting together a defense
with the up tempo, high explosive offense, what
have you learned just out on your own about being
a defensive coordinator in this kind of era? It
started obviously in the Big 12.
BRENT VENABLES: Yeah, I think it helps to have good
players. I think being long, being athletic and physical
in the back end, I don't think that you can just have a
bunch of cover guys. I'm not listening to myself as I'm
talking. I'm thinking out loud here. But you want the
biggest, strongest, fastest guys that you can.
I know from the ACC, it isn't just all four wides. I really
have grown to appreciate about the ACC is you kind of
see everything from the Boston College and nine tight
ends and 15 offensive linemen and all these crazy
formations, very Stanford like, to Georgia Tech and the
triple option, to North Carolina, which is one of the
closest versions probably to the Big 12 and what you
see week in and week out in the Big 12.
But I don't know what all I've learned. It was hard, I
know that. It was really hard teaching a new system,
starting over. It's one thing for me to start over and
learn somebody else's, but when you've having to
teach it to all new players and new coaches, it's hard.
It was hard trying to simplify some things from a
verbiage standpoint and communicative standpoint,
and then really instead of making the new players
adapt to you and your coaches as you establish
yourself over a period of time, you really had to okay,
how are they looking at it and how are they thinking,
and now how can I get them to be confident and sure
of themselves and all those things. But adapting to a
new culture, a new philosophy from a coaching staff
wise, and I've got to plug into them, not the other way
around, and that's always a transition. I say always like
I've done it nine, ten times. That was a transition. That
was very hard emotionally.
Those are all things that help you. You grow and you
kind of stretch, get out of your comfort zone. I think for
all of us, sometimes as hard as that is, it really just
helps you, whether you view things differently or things
Q. I'm sure you haven't felt like sort of the second
in command there of the cornerbacks, but
Mackensie obviously gets a lot of attention
nationally. You've had a tremendous year. Have
you kind of felt like you've flown under the radar at
all or do you like that role?
Cordrea Tankersley: I do embrace that role. I
just want to go out there and compete and help my
team. I knew all along that I'd have to go about my
business, but it really wasn't about that, it was just
going out there and helping my team, just going out
and making sure I'm making the team better.
Q. Obviously you look at just the target numbers
and quarterbacks all tend to throw his way a ton.
Have you enjoyed
CORDREA TANKERSLEY: I welcome it. I love it,
actually. He had so much stress put on him his
freshman year, so I'm out there to take up the slack.
He's done a great job, he's a great player, so who
wouldn't want to go his way. I would pick on me, too.
But it's something I embrace. It's something that
Coach V prepares me for, something my teammates
challenge me, and I just want to go out there and help
Q. Is the entertaining thing about Mackensie is he
does not shy away from talking about how good he
is, but on those occasions in which he does talk to
CORDREA TANKERSLEY: He has no filter. He at
times got the game, and that's something he's great at.
He backs it up pretty well. I'm the opposite. I just want
to go out there and just play ball. But he's done so
much for this program, you have to respect him. So
him being a great player, I just want to join him. I'm not
going to do the trash talking, though.
Q. As a secondary or as a team, how much are you
guys focused on stopping Sterling Shepard?
CORDREA TANKERSLEY: I mean, he's one of the big
keys to their offense, but we want to stop their entire
offense. We have great players, have a great
quarterback, great running back, so we just want to go
out there and pretty much stop all they can do,
including Sterling Shepard, but he's such an explosive
player that you cannot he can't go unnoticed on film.
Q. Have you seen anything on film that you think
you can exploit?
CORDREA TANKERSLEY: I mean, I think there's a lot
of things I think we can try to slow down. Like I said,
they have a great, explosive offense. You're not going
to be able to try to stop everything, but you can just try
your best to slow them down. They're just so good.
Q. How much can you take away from last year's
game or does Baker Mayfield make them a
completely different team than we saw last year?
CORDREA TANKERSLEY: I believe he does. That
was a really good team last year, but I think he adds
that extra heightness to him. He's a great competitor.
He runs really well, throws the ball really well, so he
just has the overall package that you look for in a
quarterback, and he's made the people around him
Q. Is there a quarterback that you've seen this year
or last year that's similar in style or athleticism to
him? Is it Deshaun maybe?
CORDREA TANKERSLEY: I think Deshaun is really
the only one that compares to each other. Both of
them are explosive, great players. You can pick your
poison with either one of them. You can't go wrong. I
just feel like Deshaun makes our team better, and he
makes their team better, and you can win with either
one of them.
Q. How gratifying has it been for the defense this
year that there was so much turnover from last
year and everybody kind of said, oh, well, they're
going to be rebuilding? I'm sure you guys didn't
ever look at it that way, but has it been fun
CORDREA TANKERSLEY: We lost a lot of starters
from last year to the NFL, coming from the No. 1
defense in the country, so I feel like we prepared well.
Coach Swinney always wants to prepare his backups.
He don't want to have no drop off. So I feel like coming
into this year, just moving from last year to this year just
with different faces. But we had a lot of good
leadership on that team, as we do now. I think he
prepared us really well.
Q. That's one of those things that Coach V has
talked about is I've got to have trust and faith in my
No. 2s because they're going to be my No. 1s
CORDREA TANKERSLEY: Exactly. He stressed that a
lot, so when we go to second string, he installs it as if
he's coaching the first team. There's no drop off. He
spends the second team corner just like the first team
corner. There's no excuses.
Q. Which one of the No. 2s on your team do you
think in a year or two is going to be a star?
CORDREA TANKERSLEY: We have like Mark Fields,
Adrian Baker. Those two are ones that stand out in my
mind that are going to be really good football players.
Then we have some up like Kaleb Chalmers. He's
going to be really, really good, as well. We have a lot
of people that can step up and help us in the near
Q. Talk about Baker Mayfield and his
Ben Boulware: That's one thing you definitely can
see on film. After plays he's getting in guys' face. He's
pulling down, running to the mouth. As a competitor
like myself, you love seeing that. You love getting to
play against that, so I'm looking forward to getting to
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play against him. We've got to play there's a new
quarterback last year, so we're definitely looking
forward to playing against him and just seeing all the
things he can do.
Q. It seems obvious, but is that the biggest
difference in this team from a year ago?
BEN BOULWARE: Yeah, the quarterback. Baker
Mayfield brings a lot to the table. He's probably one of
the best quarterbacks we've faced all year. He's a
Heisman contender. You can see by his stats he's a
great player. He's probably one of the top best players
in the nation. You definitely can see that on film.
Q. Can you take anything away from last year's
game because he changed that team so much?
BEN BOULWARE: Yeah, he completely changes that
team 100 percent. It's a complete 180 turnaround. He
was a great player, but it just shows how much better of
a player Baker Mayfield is.
Q. When you first came to Clemson, were you
thinking more championships or were you thinking
how it could help you grow as a person and you
just liked the atmosphere and the coaching staff?
BEN BOULWARE: Probably a little bit of both, but I
mean, I wasn't I just wanted to come to Clemson
because I've been a Clemson fan my whole life. I grew
up 30 minutes away from here, and then going to the
games. So I never thought about that, I just wanted to
come to Clemson and hope for the best really, and it's
definitely exceeded my expectations.
Q. Shaq said a little bit ago, I really love practice. It
seemed like a strange thing to say. What's that say
about his personality?
BEN BOULWARE: We've probably got a lot of guys on
our team that feel that way. It's why we've been so
successful the past couple years because Coach
Swinney has done such a good job of making practices
as fun as possible, and it's definitely grueling, it's
definitely tiresome every day. But I think they've done
a great job of making it as enjoyable as possible these
18 weeks. It speaks volumes to them that we're this far
in the season, he's out there just having a good time,
joking around, and you want that attitude out there. It
just brings a lot to practice because it does get
Q. What about Shaq Lawson and all the attention
BEN BOULWARE: Yeah, I don't think he lets that get to
his head. He's still the same old kid from Daniel, South
Carolina, or Central South Carolina, so it's cool to see
him grow as a person and see why he's growing and
staying so humble after receiving every award in the