Playoff rankings and "movement" cost Clemson and ACC


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The payout for the Russell Athletic Bowl is $2,275,000 compared to $4,250,000 for the Citrus Bowl.
The payout for the Russell Athletic Bowl is $2,275,000 compared to $4,250,000 for the Citrus Bowl.

CLEMSON – The Citrus Bowl was right there. And then it wasn’t.

Needless to say, the hijinks of Sunday afternoon’s College Football Playoff rankings and subsequent bowl selections were a little bit surprising, to say the least. And then, once you think about the politics of college football, you realize that you shouldn’t have been surprised at all and it wound up costing Clemson and the Atlantic Coast Conference two million dollars.

In case you missed it – based off of the rankings following the games of November 29th, good old Miss St. was ranked 10th and listed two spots behind Michigan St. Mississippi St. was coming off a 31-17 loss to Ole Miss in the Egg Bowl and Michigan St. defeated Penn St. 34-10. It was the regular season finale for both teams, and with the news of the rankings came the thought that Clemson would be selected to play in the Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl on New Year’s Day.

Why? Before last week’s rankings were released, the Tigers were expecting a Russell Athletic Bowl berth against a Big XII opponent. That changed, however, because No. 8 Michigan State jumped above No. 10 Mississippi State in the selection committee's rankings with the latter's Egg Bowl loss at Ole Miss Saturday.

The Orange Bowl must pit an ACC team - which was thought all along to be Georgia Tech regardless of its ACC Championship result against Florida State - against a team from the SEC, Big Ten or Notre Dame. Notre Dame (7-5) was not a factor this year.

The Yellow Jackets' opponent would contractually be the highest-ranked non-conference champion from the SEC or Big Ten that does not qualify for the College Football Playoff. Because Michigan State and Mississippi State were both idle Saturday afternoon, logic dictated that the Orange Bowl matchup would see Georgia Tech and Michigan St.

In years where the Big Ten participates in the Orange Bowl, the Big Ten's Citrus Bowl spot automatically goes to the ACC, and the Citrus supplants the Russell Athletic Bowl as the top-drafting bowl for available ACC squads. Because of bowl contract agreements, Michigan State in the Orange Bowl opened up a path for the Citrus Bowl to select an ACC participant from the trio of Clemson, Duke and Louisville instead of a Big Ten team. That team was expected to be Clemson, the highest-ranked of the three ACC schools.

But the CFB Playoff selection committee moved Mississippi State ahead of Michigan State in the final top 25 and paired Mississippi State with Georgia Tech in the Orange Bowl. That turn of events swept away the ACC's Citrus Bowl spot, and knocked Clemson back into play for the Russell Athletic Bowl.

So what happened? How did Mississippi St. – idle and coming off a loss – jump ahead of a Michigan St. team that was idle and coming off of a win? Those are questions we would all like to know the answers to, but we all know the answer lies in the greedy side of college football – politics and money.

The Orange Bowl has been struggling with attendance for years, and they likely looked at a matchup between the Spartans and Jackets as a non-seller. Tech doesn’t travel well, and trying to get folks from Michigan all the way to Miami to play against a – let’s face it – lackluster opponent probably had the folks at the Orange Bowl scrambling to find a better matchup.

That matchup was Mississippi St. – the Bulldogs are still in the region, and their fans would more likely travel to Miami for the New Year than Michigan St. For the Spartans – their fans would more than likely travel to Dallas for a Cotton Bowl matchup against Baylor – it should be a great game and it’s in Jerry’s World and not Miami’s multi-purpose Sun Life Stadium, or whatever it’s name is this week.

Because of the obvious political moves – and it’s obvious to anybody and everybody – that move cost Clemson and the ACC part of a cool $2 mil. The payout for the Citrus bowl is $4,250,000 per team. The payout for the Russell Athletic Bowl is $2,275,000 per team. That’s a big chunk of change, especially for a conference and school that are trying to compete in a region dominated by the SEC and it’s network.

Clemson isn't poorer because of the "happenings" because you can't be poorer for something you didn't have in the first place. But they definitely aren't richer.

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whatweeatin
spacer Clemson has jumped better quality teams in the past
edoetsch
spacer Old rules don't (or shouldn't) apply. Attendance should not
apextiger®
spacer You're missing the point. It was an arbitrary boost in the
Clemson81to85
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SouthernTiger09
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allorangeallthetime52®
spacer DRad was there, he needs to explain how this bs happened
NorthAlabamaTiger
spacer the same DRad who wants to tear down LittleJohn and replace
conservativealex
spacer Re: the same DRad who wants to tear down LittleJohn and replace
cugrad80
spacer Re: DRad was there, he needs to explain how this bs happened
74TIGER
spacer Re: DRad was there, he needs to explain how this bs happened
ruatiger®
spacer So DRad isnt on thr playoff committee?
NorthAlabamaTiger
spacer *the
NorthAlabamaTiger
spacer It happened because Clemson lost 3 games this year.
FootballFan36
spacer Exactly my conclusion. CFPC throwing the OB a bone due
TigersAndCubs
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D2johnstone
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bulabugs6
spacer Might be closer to $3.5 Million lost by the ACC
tigerboz
spacer Almost as smart as me^^^just types faster.***
TigerTown
spacer It actually cost more like $4m, we would have ADDED...
TigerTown
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jsebe10®
spacer There is no justification for it.....
BigCUFan®
spacer Absolutely correct. They can't explain the Miss State jump
Clemson81to85
spacer Collusion between B!0 & SEC, with some prodding from OB
longtallsam®
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MC92
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bulabugs6
spacer I say we innundate DRads in-box with a copy of this article
BigCUFan®
spacer Re: I say we innundate DRads in-box with a copy of this article
ssnow08®
spacer Was done to keep the Citrus for the B10, not to help SEC***
TigerHarris
spacer I'm betting the Big10 would rather be in the Orange Bowl
BigCUFan®
spacer B10 ended up with Cotton and Citrus instead of just Orange
TigerHarris
spacer Correct. And Cotton is now on same status as New Years Six
Clemson81to85
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Paw81
spacer Money, shmoney..WE BEAT THE COOTS 35-17! What a great year!!***
blackrivertiger®
spacer It's weird that this happened but I think you're wrong about
josephg®
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MSTiger02®
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Guessagin
spacer The cow has been divided and we were left without.
ClemsonTiger1988®
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webbstrees
spacer This total BS. The ACC should demand answers but Swofford
cupton®
spacer Re: This total BS. The ACC should demand answers but Swofford
Litefoot®
spacer Excellent post. Dradmay have not been incompetent, but
Clemson81to85
spacer Interesting article. Thanks for laying this out.***
Razzmatazz
spacer Miss State is so much better than Mich State...last week the
tigerNnc®
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Tigerlax94®
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Cruizeandbooze
spacer 3 losses hurt us
tlever
spacer THat's exactly what they counted on our response to be. We
Clemson81to85
spacer Can we just ignore all of that and blame Swofford?***
Completely Solid Orange
spacer Re: Can we just ignore all of that and blame Swofford?***
bulabugs6
spacer Hood: We demand answers from our AD and #### soon!!!***
cupton®
spacer Well that just sucks swamp water.***
CDef
spacer Next time, beat GT.***
loot87
spacer And how will that stop behind closed doors shenanigans?***
CDef
spacer Re: And how will that stop behind closed doors shenanigans?***
loot87
spacer We're probably in the OB if we beat GT.***
loot87
spacer Re: We're probably in the OB if we beat GT.***
longtallsam®
spacer Not probably, definitely!!***
longtallsam®
spacer With this precedent, they can just move people anywhere
Clemson81to85
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scotts_®
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pattersonlaw®
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ddclemson
spacer On Louisville Board, they were also pissed
OrangeATL
spacer David, was Dan Radakovich not in the room? If so, seems
surroundedtiger
spacer Rumor has it
DireTiger®
spacer I'd love to see D-Rad and Sdoubt
benc843
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strack
spacer my tin foil hat is picking up signals that say
cu85tiger®
spacer Re: my tin foil hat is picking up signals that say
speedracer®
spacer Not really the complete picture
sspassport®
spacer Logic and Truth
CUNo1Fan
spacer Re: Logic and Truth
pml214
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LKN Tiger®
spacer THis is the kind of thing that will make fans turn away. It
Clemson81to85
spacer I wonder if when the AD's from the SEC and ACC get together
LKN Tiger®
spacer David, I know this is off the radar because it involved
Clemson81to85
spacer The solution is easy, just decline the bowl.
hufferbilly®
spacer it's still a LOT better than the bowl destination of the
ragtop
spacer Both bowls suck***
hufferbilly®
spacer I disagree. It's too bad about the smaller payout, but
Grrrl
spacer And UNCheat fans get to spend bowl season
footballmanager
spacer if it quacks like a duck.....it must be a gamecock***
ragtop
spacer Paranoid much?***
Grrrl
spacer We take care of business on the field, and we get the
FootballFan36
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