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Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats

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Posted: Jan 4, 2014 8:43 PM
 

In his first full year dedicated to the position, Beasley dominated Clowney's stats. I've included Clowneys 2012 numbers as well. Beasley matched the numbers that had everyone saying #1 pick - in his second year playing the position.

Sacks:
Beasley - 13
Clowney '13 - 3
Clowney '12 - 13

Tackles for loss:
Beasley - 23
Clowney '13 - 11.5
Clowney '12 - 23.5

Yards loss (sack and TFL)
Beasley - 229
Clowney '13 - 77
Clowney '12 - 186

Forced Fumbles:
Beasley - 4
Clowney '13 - 1
Clowney '12 - 3

Who would you pick first?


Are we late to the game and need a fast driver?

[11]
Posted: Jan 4, 2014 8:45 PM
 

Or do we just want to win.


Re: Are we late to the game and need a fast driver?

[3]
Posted: Jan 4, 2014 8:51 PM
 

Spurrier probably left so many empty beer cans in the back that you wouldn't be able to get in the car.


Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats


Posted: Jan 4, 2014 8:53 PM
 

I wonder who played against better left tackles? Also, how about head-to-head, who had more impact in the state championship games?
EJ


what state championship games? don't remember seeing

[2]
Posted: Jan 4, 2014 8:54 PM
 

those.

And they both played the guys from Georgia and LSU.


Oh, yeah, right. USuC makes up championships, since they

[2]
Posted: Jan 4, 2014 8:55 PM
 

can't actually win any.


Re: what state championship games? don't remember seeing


Posted: Jan 4, 2014 8:57 PM
 

Nice deflection...still waiting to see those head-to-head stats. And, the NFL scouts will let us know who is the better player.
EJ


then pull them. I'm interested to see if you can.***

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Posted: Jan 4, 2014 8:58 PM
 




it does require the use of numbers larger than 5...you might

[4]
Posted: Jan 4, 2014 8:59 PM
 

some help.


Ok, here's your head to head stats then

[12]
Posted: Jan 4, 2014 9:09 PM
 

Defensive statistics from Clemson vs. South Carolina 2013

Jadeveon Clowney:

- 3 tackles (2 solo, 1 assisted)
- 1 sack

Vic Beasley:

- 5 tackles (5 solo, 0 assisted)
- 2 sacks


...you were saying?

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Posted: Jan 4, 2014 9:55 PM
 




Re: Ok, here's your head to head stats then


Posted: Jan 4, 2014 10:35 PM
 

You left out the score of the game


Re: Ok, here's your head to head stats then

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Posted: Jan 4, 2014 10:41 PM
 

y'all asked for individual players stats coots!!!

don't deflect the argument & point here...

just get back out in the yard & scratch up some food dirtpeckers!

BEAS(T)LEY > Clowney in 2013!!!


Irrelevant. You asked for individual stats and you got 'em

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Posted: Jan 4, 2014 11:46 PM
 

The only way the score would be relevant is if Vic and Clowney were the only 2 guys ever on the field.

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regardless of the score, you lose

[1]
Posted: Jan 4, 2014 11:48 PM
 

this argument.


Bahahaha....pOWNED***

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Posted: Jan 5, 2014 3:33 AM
 




OK, so someone did the math for him.***


Posted: Jan 4, 2014 11:48 PM
 




Now he won't learn anything


Posted: Jan 4, 2014 11:49 PM
 

(Like that would happen...)


NFL scouts don't care about individual games

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Posted: Jan 4, 2014 9:01 PM
 

They care about overall performances. Overall, Beasley's stats this year were better than Clowney's both this year and last year.

And by the way, Beasley had to play against 2 triple option teams this year (who never pass), 4 great offensive lines (Georgia, Florida State, South Carolina, Ohio State) and one run heavy Boston College team that also has a good offensive line.

He has had to play against last year's SEC leading rusher (Todd Gurley), this year's SEC leading rusher (Mike Davis), this year's national leading rusher (Andre Williams), and this year's 3rd leading rusher (Carlos Hyde) and 3 of the best run offenses in the country (Boston College, Georgia Tech, Ohio State).

Not to mention, he had to play 4 great quarterbacks (Aaron Murray, Jameis Winston, Connor Shaw, Braxton Miller), and 3 dual threat quarterbacks at that (Winston, Shaw, and Vad Lee).

Plus, Beasley was actually able to stay on the field without getting winded. Say what you will, but facts are facts my friend.

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Re: NFL scouts don't care about individual games


Posted: Jan 5, 2014 2:17 AM
 

yeah but Clowney is without a doubt ready for the NFL, per Dabo, Beasley still needs another year.


"Ready for the NFL" takes on a lot of meanings

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Posted: Jan 5, 2014 2:27 AM
 

To be honest, most scouts don't pay enough attention to production of the players. All they care about is if the body structure of the player and if the way they use their size/speed fits the position. The reason the scouts love Clowney and say that he is ready for the NFL is because of this. He's big, fast, and has the wingspan of a Bald Eagle.

Beasley is like a speeding bullet off the edge and is a good tackler in space, but he doesn't have the size that the scouts want. That's really the only reason the scouts like Clowney better.

The same things happen with quarterbacks. How many times have we heard the scouts rave over Logan Thomas just because he's tall? How many times have we heard Russel Wilson get criticized just because he's short (even though he's a great QB)?

Let's face it: a player can ball out all year and put up freakish numbers, but in the end all the NFL cares about is body structure and potential. If I were an NFL coach, I'd get the guys that are going to give me production now, not later on down the road when I develop their skills.

So while Clowney is more "ready" for the NFL in terms of scout opinions, I think my personal opinion is that Beasley would make more of an immediate impact. That being said, I also think he needs another year. Because the scouts do rave so much over size, he can use another year to put on some pounds and hopefully get the scouts to love him just as much as they love Clowney.

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If Vic was Clowney's size, he'd be 1st pick by a landslide.***

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Posted: Jan 5, 2014 8:34 AM
 




That being said,


Posted: Jan 5, 2014 8:37 AM
 

Don't let his size fool you, he is very strong. He routinely abuses much larger fundamentally sound tackles with a bull rush.


Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats

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Posted: Jan 5, 2014 1:54 AM
 

One of Clowney's sacks was really Boyd sacking himself. That one doesn't count,just like Clowney doesn't count.(at least not past 3)

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The ACC put plenty of LT's

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Posted: Jan 4, 2014 8:58 PM
 

In the NFL F@G


Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats


Posted: Jan 4, 2014 9:13 PM
 

Who would I pick? Well, Vic has had an awesome year, and definitely deserves a higher pick than he will actually get (at least in my view), but about 90% of guys who have any kind of reasonable understanding about how most NFL decisions are made would pick Clowney, including myself and probably the Texans.


but of course you would.***


Posted: Jan 4, 2014 10:54 PM
 



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You'd pick a guy that very obviously will quit when he feels

[2]
Posted: Jan 4, 2014 11:41 PM
 

like it, who is clearly not ready to be a team guy, over a guy that is already as good, with a better upside, that is willing to do anything to help the team?

Wow.


Re: You'd pick a guy that very obviously will quit when he feels


Posted: Jan 5, 2014 2:18 AM
 

Even Dabo said Vic isn't ready to go to the NFL, why would I want him??


You missed the part about only second year in the position?

[1]
Posted: Jan 5, 2014 10:27 AM
 

He won't be a #1 pick because it's still a new role for him. Next year, he would be.


Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats

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Posted: Jan 4, 2014 10:19 PM
 

Great stats! That's an easy choice! Beasley has certainly elevated his play to the level of a Heisman candidate if he chooses to return, besides Clowney is going to the NFL. ;)


Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats

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Posted: Jan 4, 2014 10:33 PM
 

Would be interested in seeing how Beastley stats over the last 2 years total compare to the Doo Doo's. Plus how many blocked passed they both had over the last 2 years. Of course Beastley only played 1 in 4 snaps last year. Go Tigers.

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Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats


Posted: Jan 4, 2014 10:34 PM
 

Which one holds the all time Death Valley single game sack record?


Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats

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Posted: Jan 5, 2014 1:55 AM
 

I do I sacked your mom 5 times. Now go back to your trailer and eat your Taco Bell 12 pack of tacos and drink HI-C that you bought on sale at Dollar General.

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Dang, is that the NFL measuring stick now-a-days?


Posted: Jan 5, 2014 3:19 AM
 

Shoot, sucks for all those teams that don't play us in the valley, huh?

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Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats


Posted: Jan 4, 2014 10:39 PM
 

Cant replace 6-6 250 though, But I love Vic They will both be great IMO

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Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats


Posted: Jan 4, 2014 10:41 PM
 

According to experts, Clowney going in top 7. Beasley late second round


Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats


Posted: Jan 4, 2014 10:51 PM
 

bet that ALL changed last night!!!

Victor BeasTley straight SHOWED OUT in the ORANGE BOWL!!!
And was VICTORious!!! over un-arguably 1 of THE BEST teams in the nation With 1 of the best records & traditions...

now THAT'S something to be proud of & hang your hat on!!!

Go Tigers!!!


right up until player interviews. Clown boy will kill his

[1]
Posted: Jan 4, 2014 11:58 PM
 

chances when they ask about his work ethic, about the flopping out of games, when they evaluate his character.


Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats


Posted: Jan 5, 2014 1:56 AM
 

Clowney will not be a factor in the NFL. Heck he wasn;t even a factor in college.

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Well he had that unblocked play against Meat-Chicken man!***


Posted: Jan 5, 2014 3:36 AM
 




Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats


Posted: Jan 5, 2014 8:14 AM
 

Unbelievable! Truly unbelievable! I think that most logical Gamecock fans would concede that Beasley is a very special player. I would like to think that most logical Tiger fans would also concede that Clowney is a very special player. Then again, maybe not? The sheer magnitude of irrational thinking on this board is often stupefying!


Re: Vic Beasley vs. Jadeveon Clowney - 2013 final stats

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Posted: Jan 5, 2014 10:01 AM
 

But yet you keep showing up and trying to hide what side you are really on, you are a coot but try so hard to play a Clemson fan. Just go back to fgf.


Can't get it on the field, either. Clowney: "I'm sore,

[1]
Posted: Jan 4, 2014 11:44 PM
 

tired, sick, hung over. And you're not making me succeed.

I'm going to sit this one out."


FBS (Division I-A) Statistics - 2013----Link

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Posted: Jan 5, 2014 6:15 AM
 

If anyone wants to check any player/team

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics


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Posted: Jan 5, 2014 12:52 PM
 




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