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Front Page Story: Big 12 leaders nix conference expansion at this time


Posted: May 30, 2012 9:35 PM
 

Big 12 leaders nix conference expansion at this time

Acting Big 12 Commissioner Chuck Neinas and Jamie Pollard, Chairman of the Big 12 AD Committee, said in a news conference Wednesday afternoon that league is happy with its current 10-team configuration. Full Story »


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LIES!!!

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Posted: May 30, 2012 9:36 PM
 

The soon-to-be-former leader, Neinas.

And it's all legal CYA.


Re: LIES!!!

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Posted: May 30, 2012 9:44 PM
 

squirm Swoffie squirm you bum

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Re: LIES!!!

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Posted: May 30, 2012 10:05 PM
 

I don't buy the whole "our team will not make the final 4 if we lose a conference championship game" argument. Texas might be the 800lb gorilla of the Big 12 but the SEC is the 800lb gorilla of college football. There will be provisions in place such as the final 4 will be selected before the conference championship games are played. No way they let having a conference championship game be a disadvantage.


Re: LIES!!!


Posted: May 31, 2012 9:14 AM
 

There's no way they will select the final 4 before they play their last game. I think they have a legitimate point regarding the downside of a championship game. One thing we need to know going in is that the Big 12 is run by Texas with Oklahoma having a significant voice, but not quite calling the shots like Texas.

From Texas' point of view, the extra money from a conference championship game is less important than positioning themselves to be in the national championship picture. They don't want to be 11-1 and get caugt looking past someone like Ok State in the championship game. It's a realistic possibilit that a 3rd or 4th ranked Texas would drop to at least 5th after a loss so late in the year.

For Clemson, the extra money from the championship game would be more of a driver. Realistically, we know that most years, we will not be in the national title picture. We may be in the discussion occassionally, but at least 4 out of 5 years, we won't be one of the top 4 teams after Thanksgiving. If Clemson were in the Big 12 right now, we might well be pushing for expansion and be frustrated by Texas' veto. We'd also be frustrated because we would not have such a veto.


Re: LIES!!!

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Posted: May 31, 2012 9:46 AM
 

Actually the latest rumor I heard was that the final four would be selected after the regular season. If one of your conference championship teams is selected to the final four then they would not play for the conference championship game and the next team behind them would play it instead. You don't have a true conference championship game but its a win/win. The conference gets their extra game AND a spot in the final four without having to worry about getting knocked out by losing the conference championship.


Re: Well, I declare.***

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Posted: May 30, 2012 9:37 PM
 




One angle to consider is if the SEC and BIG 12 have gotten


Posted: May 30, 2012 9:54 PM
 

together during this inter-conference game talk and hashed out an agreement not to come into SEC territory (via TV rights) They can possibly make the the ACC wither on the vine so to speak for a couple of years and then raid it while enjoying the spoils in the meanwhile. Not a bad business proposition for the Big 12 if you ask me.


Re: One angle to consider is if the SEC and BIG 12 have gotten


Posted: May 30, 2012 11:28 PM
 

After the sec raided the B12, not a chance.It will take years and years for those sores to heal, if they ever do !!!

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Re: One angle to consider is if the SEC and BIG 12 have gotten


Posted: May 31, 2012 9:28 AM
 

Not that businesses don't do this kind of thing, but I doubt that they'd engage in such a nakedly illegal conspiracy, especially considering how college sports is already on guard against potential antitrust suits.

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Re: Well, I declare.***

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Posted: May 30, 2012 11:54 PM
 

shocking Peanut actually thinks this means anything... poor guy.

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Yeah, they are the leaders for about 2 more weeks until the

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Posted: May 30, 2012 9:49 PM
 

new commish starts june 15. He as already stated he will be very proactive with epansion.


remember the sec "voted against" TA&M

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Posted: May 30, 2012 10:03 PM
 

then not long after it was announced they would be joining


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Posted: May 30, 2012 9:50 PM
 




Re: Yeah, they are the leaders for about 2 more weeks until the


Posted: May 30, 2012 9:51 PM
 

Whats the new comm name?


Re: Yeah, they are the leaders for about 2 more weeks until the

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Posted: May 30, 2012 9:52 PM
 

Bowlsby from Stanford.

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and was at Iowa before that

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Posted: May 30, 2012 10:05 PM
 

would be nice to have a commish with no ties to other schools in the conference...


Wait, are you saying


Posted: May 31, 2012 11:13 AM
 

that he has ties to a Big12 school? because Iowa is in the B1G. I'm not sure if that's what you were saying or not.


Re: Wait, are you saying


Posted: May 31, 2012 11:46 AM
 

No he is referring to the Tobacco Road Boys running the ACC.


Well, if they're going to say anything at all.........

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Posted: May 30, 2012 9:51 PM
 

it would be that. Nothing to see here.

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Re: Re: Yeah, they are the leaders for about 2 more weeks until the

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Posted: May 30, 2012 9:53 PM
 

Thanks tu


Re: Front Page Story: Big 12 leaders nix conference expansion at this time

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Posted: May 30, 2012 9:54 PM
 

Someone stated earlier that the SEC made this same statement less than a month before adding Mizzou and TAMU.....not sure of that's true


Re: Front Page Story: Big 12 leaders nix conference expansion at this time

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Posted: May 30, 2012 9:56 PM
 

They definitely backed off and said they were not looking to expand after the threat of a lawsuit. After it was all over, they said aTm and Mizzou walked nekkid to B'ham, begging to get in.

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i still believe

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Posted: May 30, 2012 10:24 PM
 

The 4 twitterers that tweet circular references all day. We are gone.

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Re: Front Page Story: Big 12 leaders nix conference expansion at this time

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Posted: May 30, 2012 11:32 PM
 

What this says between the lines is this. That flash of lightening you just saw. Comes before you hear that big clash of thunder.

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GOOD!!!! Now we can get back to focusing on Clemson

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Posted: May 30, 2012 11:52 PM
 

athletics.


Link to SEC comments last year


Posted: May 31, 2012 7:10 AM
 

We're gone!

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2011/08/15/sec-not-expanding-for-now/


Re: Link to SEC comments last year


Posted: May 31, 2012 8:59 AM
 

thanks for posting the link. It says SEC sees adding FSU improves its "Basketball" Shows the true state of FSU football

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They did win the ACC tournament last year***


Posted: May 31, 2012 11:18 AM
 




Re: Link to SEC comments last year


Posted: May 31, 2012 9:02 AM
 

Bye


The Big XII has a "acting" Commissioner for 2 more weeks


Posted: May 31, 2012 7:55 AM
 

Once the Bowlsby is in the job I think we'll see this heat up once again. Neinas probably didn't have to power to broker expansion even if he wanted to.

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Did anyone really think anything would happen before the


Posted: May 31, 2012 8:38 AM
 

playoff format is approved and how you get in the final four?

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Re: Front Page Story: Big 12 leaders nix conference expansion at this time


Posted: May 31, 2012 8:55 AM
 

Now lets focus on fixing the ACC and its leadership

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Re: Front Page Story: Big 12 leaders nix conference expansion at this time


Posted: May 31, 2012 9:03 AM
 

How about we focus on the regional and then Auburn.


I wondered if adding the game with the SEC would eliminate


Posted: May 31, 2012 9:55 AM
 

the "need" for a conference championship game...

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Re: Front Page Story: Big 12 leaders nix conference expansion at this time


Posted: May 31, 2012 5:54 PM
 

10 members are not content with 10. When July rolls around tcu and wvu will vote with the rest of Big 12 to expand.Cu &FSU will be invited to join.Oliver Luck Wva ad has been speaking on Cu's behalf. Done deal for both teams. Big 12 will pay half of 20 mil for both schools to join.

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