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Napier is a bad OC? BS, and here's why (very long)
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Napier is a bad OC? BS, and here's why (very long)


Sep 29, 2009, 3:06 AM

Those of you who are saying Napier is a bad OC need to go back and watch our games and analyze them. You SHOW us why he is, as I'm about to show you WHY he's a good OC (and a pretty ###* good one at that) by breaking down the TCU game after going back and breaking it down drive by drive. This is all 11 of our possessions broken down with ACTUAL GAME FILM that I WATCHED (not "but I heard this guy say this who heard it from this guy who sat next to this guy behind the players bench who heard....)

So without further ado, enjoy the read (4 pages long in Word but most of y'all should appreciate this)

1st Drive Recap

We kicked a field goal and scored 3 points. Parker just missed Ford on the sideline for the first down on 3rd and 3. The play calling was EXCELLENT but the execution by the players lacked on about 3 plays. This drive featured a LOT of MISDIRECTION plays (that’s how we moved down the field). This was a 16 play drive. Lots of shorter plays to keep the 3rd downs short, this is a must (we were 10th going into the game in the ACC on 3rd downs, that HAS to get better to win consistently)
Poor Execution or poor play calling? +1 to execution close to the goal line.

2nd Drive Recap

Drive started at 40 yard line do to ball being kicked out of bounds. 3 and out due to a 3rd and 8. The play call on 3rd and 8 was an option out of the shotgun trips formation (trips to left) to the right , IMO the first ### play call of the game. You run to the side with ONE WR to block downfield?! They lined up Hughes out further than he normally plays on the line along with a safety, corner, and two linebackers to that side! This should have been the time to call an audible (especially with Ford in motion to the right because it drew a defender with him).
Poor Execution or poor play calling? +1 to the play calling (3rd down call would have been good on 1st or 2nd down, not 3rd as Danny Kanell as a former NFL quarterback pointed out)

3rd Drive Recap

Defense stopped TCU on 4th and Inches to get us the ball (momentum back in our favor). Drew a late hit penalty on first down to get us 15 yards and another first down. Parker throws a GREAT (more like PERFECT )pass (that’s why he’s the starting QB) that only Palmer can catch and does for a first down to move the chains. Later in the drive on a 2nd down and 10, Spiller gets contact that could have been pass interference on defense but it turned out to be good coverage so the no call was the right decision here ( I was LIVID during the game when this happened but officials made the right call this time). 3rd and 10 run by Parker for 8 yards so 4th and 2. Again we didn’t convert a 3rd down due to it being 3rd and Long (this MUST be fixed in every game from here on out).
Poor execution or poor play calling? +1 to execution

4th Drive Recap

Drive started at the 44 YARD LINE. Brown drops a pass on 2nd and 3 that hit him in the hands and a pass thrown by Parker that only Brown could catch. Made it 3rd and 3. Spiller runs to the left for a first down. 2nd and 6 Parker reads defense, calls it out, throws 3 yard pass to Taylor to make it 3rd AND SHORT. Sweep play makes it 4th and short. Quick snap on 4th and inches and we DON’T GET IT (NO PUSH from the offensive line). BAD play call here, you’re down 7-3 in the 2nd quarter with 4:24 left on the clock, you have the option of a 52 yard field goal or to go for it. YOU TAKE THE #### POINTS! Jackson has PROVEN he can make these no problem. You get the game to a 1 point game and keep playing, this wasn’t your offensive’s last drive of the game, NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Poor execution or Poor play calling? +1 to BOTH, O-line HAS to get that push but the coaches HAVE to take the points!

5th Drive Recap

Even with the ######## call on Spiller not going out of bounds (when he did, CLOCK should have stopped but they kept it running), we scored our only Touchdown of the game (if Parker throws a better ball to Spiller deep it’s a touchdown without having to grind it out running with Spiller scoring anyway but still great play call and good execution).
Poor Execution or poor play calling? Neither for this drive even with the early mistakes due to scoring a touchdown, touchdowns make up for mistakes like the snap infraction.
End of first half, we have the lead 10-7 (shoulda had a shot to make it 13-7)
6th Drive Recap
Start drive at 32 yard line. Dwayne Allen ruined a good play call on 1st and 10 due to not getting free and the pass ends up incomplete. 2nd and 10 Palmer has to make that catch to help Parker out (but Parker didn’t throw a good pass there). 3rd and 10 ball had to be thrown away due to poor poor POOR offensive line protection on that play. 3 and Out
Poor Execution or poor play calling? +1 to poor execution

7th Drive Recap

6 yard run by Spiller on first, 2 yard pass to Palmer on 2nd, makes it 3rd and 4 and Ford catches pass for 1st down, another good throw by Parker (again 3RD AND SHORT KEY HERE). 2nd and 7 good extension of play from Parker and Palmer almost got the catch in bounds. 3rd and 7 (3rd AND LONG) and Parker overthrew Ashe (Parker shoulda made that throw).
Poor Execution or poor play calling? +1 to poor execution

8th Drive Recap

1st and 10 run up to gut to Spiller to make it 2nd and 7. 2nd and 7 was a pass missed by Spiller (right through his hands). 3rd and 7 (3rd and LONG) HB draw to make it 4th and 3 (THIS WAS THE 6TH STRAIGHT FAILED 3RD DOWN CONVERSION ATTEMPT) Conservative play call on 3rd and 7 due to field position around our own 20 and still leading by 3.
Poor execution or poor play calling? +1 to poor execution.

9th Drive Recap

1st and 10 bad throw due to O-LINE not blocking D-line, not Parker’s fault for having 3 guys in his face, just had to get rid of the ball. 2nd and 10 offsides on TCU makes it 2nd and 5, 2nd and 5 great run by Spiller to get 13 yards and a first down to our 42 yard line (Taylor lead blocking for Spiller, GREAT play call and great blocking by the o-line, receivers, and Taylor). 1st and 10 Spiller great run again to the right for 34 yards, 1st and 10 Spiller run to make it 2nd and 3 (he has to come out do to needing a break, he was on the sideline gasping for air after those consecutive runs, he TORCED that TCU defense those last few plays), 2nd and 3 Harper run for 3rd and 3, 3rd and 3 DROPPED PASS by Palmer that would have been a first down (HIT PALMER IN THE #### HANDS!). 4th and 3 we miss a 34 yard kick (coulda been 14-13 or if you go back to my analysis in the first half 16-14 with US being back in the lead….)
Poor execution or poor play calling? Neither, Jackson just missed the kick, but the play calling was GREAT, and the team executed well except for Harper’s 0 yard run (you can thank the O-line for no push on that play) and Palmer dropping the pass on 3rd down before you blame Jackson missing the FG.

10th Drive Recap (the rain REALLY picked up at the start of this drive and was definitely a factor)

1st and 10 Poor Blocking from the line, loss of 5 yards by Spiller, 2nd and 15 screen pass gets us to 3rd and 10, 3rd and 10 pass to Spiller for a 1st down (Great patience while being pressured from his backside for Parker to get the ball to Spiller), 1st and 10 pass deep to Ford incomplete, ford fell down so we don’t know if we he would have caught it or not (good play call though on 1st down after picking up a long 3rd down to try and catch TCU off guard for a TD), 2nd and 10 run for Spiller for 0 yards (O-line got beat AGAIN), 3rd and 10 Parker mishandles snap, gets it back and throws it deep incomplete but Ford got hit before the ball got there so penalty and 15 yards and first down for us, GREAT play out of a bad one by Parker to keep it alive, 1st and 10 Spiller runs for 0 yards, 2nd and 9 pass thrown to Brown for deep first down BUT the OLINE AGAIN f’s it up for us with an illegal formation, GREAT play call and GREAT job by Parker to keep the play alive and find open man down the field, even with the penalty (would have given us field position at TCU 25) so its 2nd and 14 now, 2nd and 14 again GREAT play call and Parker keeps play alive and throws ball deep (he kept his eyes down field in the face of extreme pressure from TCU’s D-line and threw it against his body) to Ford and gets a horse collar tackle added to the end of the play (extra 15 yards) so its 1st and 10 at the 13 yard line (3 mins left at this point), 1st and 10 sweep to Spiller, POOR blocking and stopped back at 16 yard line. 2nd and 13 pass to endzone, Parker misfired to Dwayne Allen (GREAT PLAY CALL BY NAPIER, Parker had Allen and just overthrew him by a little bit), 3rd and 13 (3rd and LONG), Parker pass incomplete, no one got open and he almost threw a pick trying to make a play, 4th and 13 and we took a timeout to get the play call, BAD COACHING move here (I’ll explain why in a minute). 4th and 13 play is incomplete (Good pass play call, but it was a low percentage play no what we ran).
Poor Execution or Poor play calling? Both, poor execution because we didn’t score or gain a yard on 2nd 3rd or 4th down, and #### POOR COACHING for going for it on 4th and 13 when you’re 2 for 6 all season and 0 for 1 today from INCHES AWAY. You waste a timeout to go for it on 4th and 13 and come up short. You kick the field goal, you’re down 14-13, you kick the ball and you still have 3 timeouts left to have plenty of time on the clock to get down the field and score. Even with Parker playing well on that last drive (he carried us to the 13 yard line), you don’t make him have to win the game on his arm if you don’t have to, I’d much rather him have to get about 30 less yards on the final drive to get in field goal range and win the game that way instead of him having one shot on 4th and 13 to win the game. TCU went 3 and out and punted the ball to us with 1:03 left on the clock for our final drive so you can’t say the D wouldn’t have stopped them. Again, poor poor poor coaching play call on that 4th down.

11th and Final Drive Recap

This is just horrendous clock management at the end of the game. Calling that timeout on 4th down on that last drive cost us here, we could have had one in our pocket with 1:03 left in the game and only be down by 1 (or if we kicked a FG in the first half instead of going for it on 4th down we lead 16-14 and possibly run the clock out). We got the ball at the 43 yard line to start the drive (now what do some of y’all think about the missed FG earlier and the one we didn’t kick in the first half? 25 yards is a hell of a lot easier to get than 57). 1st and 10 pass dropped by Ashe about 20 yards down the field (HIT HIM IN THE HANDS!), 2nd and 10 pass caught by Ashe for 9 yards and THE CLOCK KEEPS TICKING, fumbled snap on 3rd down and it was 4th down and short so you can’t kill the clock so you throw a hail mary and don’t get it to end the game. HORRIBLE MANAGEMENT ALL AROUND (we BETTER practice this, THIS WEEK, not next week, THIS WEEK, NO REASON for such crappy clock management there).

So,
Was it the execution that cost us or the play calling that cost us this game? You could argue the playing on the last drive of the game, but there is no way you can blame Napier for this loss when the drives were stopped because of POOR EXECUTION by our PLAYERS. They HAVE to get better under pressure (the whole team on the final drive had to be better, we were just standing around half of those last 63 seconds) but that final drive should never have had to happen if we had taken the points given to us (the missed FG and the one we didn’t take in the first half on 4th down). You are playing a top 15 team that is a non-conference opponent and you know they are that good and YET you DON’T take the points opportunities when you have them. The play calling was only about 15% of why we lost the game, but the other 85% is squarely on the players this time. BC game we were conservative but today we had some EXCELLENT play calls from Napier. You CANNOT blame this loss on Napier’s play calling, you can blame it on the poor execution of our players for not making the 2nd down plays to get us in more 3rd and shorts which lead to 3rd and longs (We had a TON of 4th and shorts because we had 3rd and Longs)

Bottom Line, the players start executing more consistently as a whole means we'll get more 3rd and shorts and more 3rd down conversions which will turn into long drives (helping our defense stay fresh) and score more points to win football games.

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Nice effort and appreciate your work...at least the trolls


Sep 29, 2009, 3:19 AM

are asleep now...

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Re: Nice effort and appreciate your work...at least the trolls


Sep 29, 2009, 3:20 AM

agreed man, just tired of hearing the bad talk about Napier when he's improved a bunch since our first game in play calling and he was excellent in the TCU game.

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Re: Nice effort and appreciate your work...at least the trol


Sep 29, 2009, 3:54 AM

This right here cost us the game in my opinion. No idea why we went for it especially with our rather lackluster offensive performance thus far. Take the points all day every day.


Poor Execution or Poor play calling? Both, poor execution because we didn’t score or gain a yard on 2nd 3rd or 4th down, and #### POOR COACHING for going for it on 4th and 13 when you’re 2 for 6 all season and 0 for 1 today from INCHES AWAY. You waste a timeout to go for it on 4th and 13 and come up short. You kick the field goal, you’re down 14-13, you kick the ball and you still have 3 timeouts left to have plenty of time on the clock to get down the field and score. Even with Parker playing well on that last drive (he carried us to the 13 yard line), you don’t make him have to win the game on his arm if you don’t have to, I’d much rather him have to get about 30 less yards on the final drive to get in field goal range and win the game that way instead of him having one shot on 4th and 13 to win the game. TCU went 3 and out and punted the ball to us with 1:03 left on the clock for our final drive so you can’t say the D wouldn’t have stopped them. Again, poor poor poor coaching play call on that 4th down.

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Re: Nice effort and appreciate your work...at least the trol


Sep 29, 2009, 4:01 AM

I think this was what finally sunk our chances of scoring to get back in front in the game. Definitely agree though, I was actually thinking this during the game (not during the actual play call though) but it's amazing what you find when you go back and watch the game film, I'm sure the coaches have noted that in their own film studies.

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Re: Napier is a bad OC? BS, and here's why (very long)


Sep 29, 2009, 6:16 AM

AMEN!!!!!! When the offensive players start concentrating the catches will come. Also they need to be more aggressive in their route running. Offensive line did much better, but needs to also stay aggressive. What you have to realize is the coaches can't do these things for them so Man the _ _ _ _ up!!!

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Good read...thanks for posting.


Sep 29, 2009, 6:56 AM

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Re: Napier is a bad OC? BS, and here's why (very long)


Sep 29, 2009, 7:49 AM

Great post - very methodical. I do, however, have a critical point of departure with your analysis on the 9th drive. Spiller had just gashed these guys three times during this series to get us down to the 17 yard line. Spiller took a breather on 2nd down where Harper basically ran for a yard at most. It is at this point that I have a problem - on 3rd and 3 we go with an empty backfield? I don't have a problem with throwing a pass but why in the world would you not even pretend you might run it - especially after Spiller had been gashing these guys on this particular drive. Napier should have at least had Spiller or Ellington line up in the backfield to give the defense something to think about. I think bad play calling should also get a +1 on this drive....

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True, plus, did Ellington have any carries?


Sep 29, 2009, 8:12 AM

After those 3 runs, you RUN IT AGAIN. If Spiller was winded, put Ellington in the game & RUN it a-dam-gain. When they sent in Harper, I cringed, because it was going to be a 2 yard stumble.

I don't remember seeing Ellington in the game at all on offense.



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Re: True, plus, did Ellington have any carries?


Sep 29, 2009, 5:10 PM

He had one catch on the first drive but no carries, but yes he SHOULD be getting the carries behind Spiller and not Harper, Harper work's his butt off but he's not quite there consistently yet.

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Re: Napier is a bad OC? BS, and here's why (very long)


Sep 29, 2009, 2:54 PM [ in reply to Re: Napier is a bad OC? BS, and here's why (very long) ]

very good point about the empty backfield, but the coaches definitely should have called a timeout here to get the playcall right, yes +1 to the play calling, but the player's execution still heavily outweight the play calling in this game.

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I'll say again it's not play calling, it's play design.


Sep 29, 2009, 7:54 AM

You emphasize the 3rd and long failures, but we don't have the slants and hitch patterns from the WR's in our playbook to get 5-7 yards and make it 3rd and short. All the plays we run seem to have over 10 yard routes from the WR's that take longer to develop. I can't remember Parker taking too many 3 step drops.

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DINGDINGDINGDING...AMEN..correct answer!! Where are the


Sep 29, 2009, 8:55 AM

quick passes, the hitches, the slants?? These plays(IF...thrown properly and IF caught)will get you 6 yds every time. When the safety starts coming up...FORD goes 60 yds for a TD.

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because we have an OC with out his own system...


Sep 29, 2009, 3:02 PM

we are using spence's system we need to hire a REAL OC

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This is nothing like Spence's system. Which offense have


Sep 29, 2009, 8:03 PM

you been watching this year?!?

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been watching us abandon the run when its working..


Sep 29, 2009, 8:55 PM

just like spence did.no outside runs on short yardage situations.i could go on and on..its funny dabo said he got rid of spence because he didnt like the direction the offense was taking yet we are using his plays.hmmm

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Nice work. Point and HOF. But I do have a question


Sep 29, 2009, 8:21 AM

What kind of crazy person is up that early and writes something so thoughtful?

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Re: Nice work. Point and HOF. But I do have a question


Sep 29, 2009, 2:59 PM

22nd birthday today so I've had some time, just got sick n tired of all the hear say bad talk about Napier, wanted to prove those people wrong!

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Happy Birthday! I hope your day has been great!***


Sep 29, 2009, 8:05 PM



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Re: Happy Birthday! I hope your day has been great!***


Sep 29, 2009, 8:40 PM

appreciate it! I got this as a gift today, this was freakin awesome! http://store.cstv.com/marketplace/store_contents.cfm?cart_id=084002318671081011091151116197420092909&store_id=215&dept_id=3150&product_id=151272

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Re: Napier is a bad OC? BS, and here's why (very long)


Sep 29, 2009, 8:37 AM

One glaring mistake he made...

On the 4th drive, in the 4th and short, we have no backs in the backfield and Parker under center. In all other previous empty backfield formations the ENTIRE YEAR, Parker is in shotgun. He blatantly telegraphed the QB sneak. I knew it was coming, the majority of the fans knew it was coming and obviously TCU knew it was coming.

In general, we have way too many short yardage situations with 3+ WR's on the field. In my opinion, that is not our strongest formation as the WR's other than Ford are below average. I know Palmer and Allen have drops as well, but if you have a 2TE, 2WR, 1RB set you force the Defense to respect both the run and pass. I feel like we telegraph our plays with formations (see situation above) Napier has to get better at disguising his play calls with personnel.

We ran a lot of empty sets and this really helps the defense because it plays to our weaknesses (WR's who can't catch and aren't explosive other than Ford) All the defense has to do in these sets is bracket Spiller (who usually lines up as a WR) and keep a safety over Ford to prevent the deep ball (both TCU and BC have shut down his deep routes) and bring the blitz against our Ole - Line (Pun intended). Parker typically won't have the protection to let the routes develop and the play is rushed.

Even on 3rd and 6 or 7 keeping spiller in the backfield and on TE on the field would make a defense respect the draw, a HB screen or the pass downfield. Napier pigeon-holes himself into passes only, to WR's that are not hard to cover by going empty backfield. Unless you're going to call a QB Draw, which we never do. Parker's runs are not by design.

I do appreciate your analysis, it did make me realize that more of our issues are execution, not so much playcalling, but I still think the formations we put on the field are giving the defense too many cues as to what we are doing.

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Re: Napier is a bad OC? BS, and here's why (very long)


Sep 29, 2009, 8:43 AM

Very astute analysis. Thanks and a point.

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Is it even Napier's decision to go for it on 4th?


Sep 29, 2009, 9:02 AM

I disagree with you on "taking the points" on 4th in inches. A 52 yard field goal attempt should be a lot less of a gimme than 4th and inches. I say go for it.

Regardless, since this post is specifically about Napier and not coaching in general, I ask this: Does the OC make that call? I think that's a head coach's call. Just like going for it on 4th and 13 from the 17 yard line after calling a timeout. I don't think these things fall on Napier, right?

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Re: Napier is a bad OC? BS, and here's why (very long)


Sep 29, 2009, 9:16 AM

On the fourth drive that resulted in the failed attempt at a first down with the qb sneak...... that was a very poor call. It would have had a chance if the Tigers had not used an empty backfield. The ol just isn't good enough right now to let the defense know in advance what you are going to do. Allowing Taylor, Diehl or even Harper to lineup in the backfield would have given us a better chance to make the play. The quick snap had no chance of success and a delayed count would have been the better choice. Perhaps even allowed for an offsides penalty. No excuse for an empty backfield here.

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Good post


Sep 29, 2009, 9:22 AM

But I disagree about the second to last drive. You don't know that you're going to stop them so I think you have to go for the TD. With only 2 timeouts, they could have very easily run out the clock. A field goal could almost be like conceding, especially with the yards their QB was getting each carry.

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Re: Good post


Sep 29, 2009, 2:52 PM

agreed except if we had those 3 timeouts instead of wasting one before we called the play, that's what ticked me off about that. You don't take the timeout, you kick the FG, and make your defense get a stop and you can help them with 3 TOs

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The playcalling this week was actually pretty good, but


Sep 29, 2009, 8:09 PM

Napier was still the wrong choice.

1) Our receivers run sloppy routes, don't hold blocks, and can't catch. This shows a lack of coaching.

2) Our runningbacks line up too deep and take handoffs too deep, then refuse to hit the hole which the offensive line has created. Often times people say there was no hole when the fact of the matter is that the runningback was a second late to the hole. This is a simple technical problem that shows a lack of coaching.

3) Our coaches and our quarterback simply cannot manage the last 2 minutes of the game. This has been proven twice in four games.

I could go on, but those three alone are enough to cripple any offense.

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Re: The playcalling this week was actually pretty good, but


Sep 30, 2009, 5:26 AM

1. If their runny sloppy routes and don't hold their blocks then you need to blame the WR coach. Can't catch is not a coaching problem when it hits receivers in the hands and they drop them (palmer on 3rd and 3, allen a couple of times, ashe a couple of times, even Ford once)

2. The running game was doing a good enough job during the game so I don't see why it's a problem yet (now in the redzone is different)

3. You are 100% correct, that has to be worked on in practice. It never should have had to come down to that in either game but it did and we failed both times.

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Re: The playcalling this week was actually pretty good, but


Sep 30, 2009, 11:24 AM

1) still coaching. Catching is a lack of concentration, and coaching can fix that. Otherwise they should be playing defense.

2) Just because we have good rushing statistics doesn't mean we're a good rushing team. We can't pick up yards when we need them, we can't sustain drives, and we can't finish in the red-zone when teams are playing tighter defense because of the shorter field, thus making running more difficult, and timing more important. Having one 70 yard run and then a bunch of 1 or 2 yard gains or losses doesn't equal good rushing, especially when the 70 yarder isn't for a touchdown.

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Re: The playcalling this week was actually pretty good, but


Sep 30, 2009, 4:22 PM

maybe i'm just missing something here but have we had any of those big 70 yard runs this year? I may be completely missing something here but I don't recall seeing any big time runs of that many yards. We're averaging 5 yards a carry in the fourth quarter without any big big big runs in the 4th quarter, its as simple as execution by the players, you can coach all day but long but it is still up to the players, if they don't make the plays when it hits them in the hands its time to put guys in there that can catch.

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Second to last drive of the game, CJ had


Sep 30, 2009, 6:38 PM

a long one, maybe 50 yards or something? I dunno. Long run, no results.

Watch any of the game replays. We pick up yards when it doesn't matter, but we get shut down when it does.

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Re: Second to last drive of the game, CJ had


Sep 30, 2009, 11:43 PM

Got ya, I think he had around 40-50 yards on the 4 carries he had on that drive, but we did stall out at the 13. Granted Palmer dropped the ball on 3rd and 3 and that would have been a first down, but you have to convert 3rd and shorts.

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I don't blame coaches for not kicking 52 yr FG on 4th drive


Sep 29, 2009, 9:17 PM

with 4th and inches. We absolutely have to be able to get that with a QB sneak. I think the paper quoted Dabo as saying we missed a blocking assignment. (imagine that)

As far as the argument for kicking a FG at the end of the game with just over 2 min left... I can imagine had he attempted the FG and we lost by 1 point, people would have been furious. We had trouble getting TCU 3 and out all second half. I think TCU's play calling would have changed if they were only ahead by one point. Who knows if we stop them in 3 or not in that situation. They played it conservative knowing we needed a TD to win.

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Re: I don't blame coaches for not kicking 52 yr FG on 4th drive


Sep 30, 2009, 5:24 AM

You play to your strengths in crunch time which has been the defense the entire year, you may lose the game not getting the ball back but with what should have been 3 TO's to help the D you take that chance, again 25 yards is a hell of a lot higher percentage to pick up with 1:03 on the clock instead of 57 yards, especially with a freshman qb. YOu kick that 52 yarder because Jackson has proven he can kick them back there (and with about 10 yards to spare at that). If TCU were only head the one point they'd have been just as conservative because they were leading, if we were tied it'd be different but that'd be the only way they'd have thrown the ball past the first down marker.

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you should be a politician.


Sep 30, 2009, 11:21 PM

the way you word things is pretty impressive. you make it all seem warm and fuzzy when it's not.

you're going places, kid.

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THE TIGERS ARE IN MY HEART..... BUT THE DUCKS ARE IN MY PANTS....


Re: you should be a politician.


Sep 30, 2009, 11:45 PM

haha, I guess I should say appreciate it, and I guess I do make it sound like we're so close to being there, but I wrote this like that because we are that close. The team didn't quit like they did against Bama and Maryland last year, they kept fighting, as Dabo said he took 8 plays and told the team if they made 3 of em we win that game. Give me 3 and 4 point losses at this point right now to top 15 teams instead of losing 34-10 and 20-17 after the team quit on the game.

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