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Why is nobody talking about David Dorn?

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Posted: Jun 4, 2020 9:29 PM
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George Floyd was in and out of prison. Was arrested for pulling a gun on a pregnant woman during a breaking and entering. Was in Minneapolis smoking Meth when he resisted arrest and lost his life. I 100% agree that he should still be alive and that cop should be charged for murder, which he is. But what about the 78 year old retired police officer (who was black btw) that was shot at point blank range trying to prevent looters from entering a store. That man was killed for a big screen tv. Where’s the memorial? Where’s the news coverage? Where’s the protests for him? The media has an agenda and it’s very clear. ALL LIVES MATTER


Sadly, It does not fit the Narrative of this “Woke” Culture

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Posted: Jun 4, 2020 9:36 PM
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We also have 95% of the Media that are complicit in Facist/ Marxist Activities! It’s SICKENING!


the media is exactly the problem...

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Posted: Jun 4, 2020 11:14 PM
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they know how to present it in a way which continues to divide us and make us misunderstand each other. Division gives power.

I urge all people, especially those who consider themselves to be conservative, to take a breath and listen to real voices of our black brothers and sisters behind BLM. Stop being offended and defensive and try to actually listen. You don't have to agree with everything, but try to hear.

Do we really think that the majority of these people do not believe ALL lives matter? Do we really think the majority of these people don't despise the rioting and looting?

We need to take a breath and listen. We can't keep going through these cycles. Don't let the news create your reality.

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Re: the media is exactly the problem...


Posted: Jun 4, 2020 11:57 PM
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So if media is the problem (and I am not necessarily disagreeing with you), does Fox News shoulder some of the blame?

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yes...

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 12:12 AM
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I have become disgusted with ALL network and cable news. It seems all news is slanted by an agenda. The mainstream's obsession with Trump has become comical.

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I agree with you....

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 12:22 AM
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All media has been horrible.

But I can honestly tell you that President Trump has saddened me with his actions and words.I don't need CNN or Fox News to tell me how I feel about the man.

Every time I hear speak or see him I think of this:

Romans 16:17

I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.

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we are completely on the same page...

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 12:26 AM
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Trump is not a peacemaker. I am not proud of him.

My point about the obsession is whatever Trump does drives MSM news.

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and on this subject of BLM...

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 12:34 AM
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There are others for sure, but this is the verse I'm pointing people to:

“Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger...” -
James 1:19

Nobody is excusing the violence, but that can be dealt with. We need not be so quick to respond with our "well what about this" and yeah, but this." That's not listening.

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Re: and on this subject of BLM...

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 12:37 AM
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So true, I wish I were better at this.

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Re: we are completely on the same page...


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 12:36 AM
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Exactly how I feel too.

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Re: I agree with you....

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 10:10 AM
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A long as you felt the same way about Obama, I'm okay with what you say. Obama was the Great Divider, and made it very clear when he said something racist like "He could have been my son". Basically, Obama made it clear that it was okay for Blacks to lure innocent policemen into dangerous situations where they were killed in cold blood. Those policemen were NOT his sons.

The damage was done by Obama, and the division is so wide that it is hard to repair. I wish Trump, or anyone that follows Trump, all the luck in the world trying to fix this crap.


absolutely***


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 10:24 AM
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yes

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 12:27 AM
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Fox News went the way of entertainment over the news a long time ago.

How much Breaking News is conceivable in any 24 hour period -- CNN.

MSNBC is as sold-out as Fox News, only a different target audience.

The traditional sources (NBC, CBS, and ABC) are better than those because they aren't trying to keep your attention 24 hours a day. They have their biases, too, (they are people after all), but not sold out like the 3 above.

PBS does the best in my opinion. Left of center, but fair, I think. I notice that they talk a lot less about people and personalities and more about issues. Also, they seem to put more effort into interpreting what events "mean" instead of just reporting things happening.

My 2 cents ...

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I think this is correct...

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 12:29 AM
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I find myself preferring the networks over cable news sources

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Re: the media is exactly the problem...


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 1:19 AM
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Thank you. Posts without screaming, cursing, and name calling have a better chance of resonating with people.


Re: Sadly, It does not fit the Narrative of this “Woke” Culture


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 2:55 AM
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Its surely the media

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Woke culture = WEAK culture IMO.***

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 7:38 AM
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Psychiatrist: What seems to be the problem? Patient: I think I'm a chicken. Psychiatrist: How long as this been going on? Patient: Ever since I came out of my shell.


Candace Owens gets it, if you're willing to listen.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 7:57 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtPfoEvNJ74

This article breaks it down in greater detail, if you're willing to read it.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2016/04/26/anti-white-racism-hate-dares-not-speak-name-2/


The TRUTH will set you free!

Have a great weekend Tigernet!!!


I have no problem with Candace Owens...


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 9:07 AM
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I think she is sharp...but I think that's a dialogue for the black community to work through.

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BLM only cares about black lives as long as it advances

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Posted: Jun 4, 2020 10:07 PM
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their totally political agenda. A Black life lost to thugs doesn't do that. It's really simple and transparent. The media is BLM's biggest cheerleader, and doesn't dare criticize or question them.

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BLM doesn't necessarily equate to media and political agenda

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Posted: Jun 4, 2020 10:45 PM
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unfortunately the media and progressives undermine the true meaning behind BLM. Most people behind BLM are good, law abiding people.

I know this won't be popular.

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I agree that BLM is full of people who are there for the

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Posted: Jun 4, 2020 11:08 PM
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right reasons - to fight racism and racial inequality. They also have a lot of people who engage in a unethical and illegal, violent behavior.

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agreed***


Posted: Jun 4, 2020 11:15 PM
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Re: BLM doesn't necessarily equate to media and political agenda


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 2:57 AM
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THey sure do, All the time. Dang media

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Franc, the problem is not the mostly good, law abiding


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:05 AM
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marchers, but their progressive liberal elite leaders who manipulate, coerce and deceive the good, law abiding portion with distortions and false narratives for their own benefit and / or political agenda!!


I don't disagree...


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 9:13 AM
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this is a complex issue.

My point is I think people with agendas push our buttons, black and white. They keep us offended. They keep us trying to defend ourselves. They keep their power by keeping us divided.

I am trying to ignore the bait. I do not understand what it is like to be black in this country and never will. But I am listening. I want to validate.

Doesn't mean I am liberal or progressive - far from it.

We have to remove the politics from this.

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George Floyd didn't deserve what

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Posted: Jun 4, 2020 10:25 PM
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happened to him despite his criminal record.

Dave Form certainly was victimized in a much more cold blooded, heinous way, and he deserves more attention and reflection.

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Re: Why is nobody talking about David Dorn?

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Posted: Jun 4, 2020 10:33 PM
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Pretty spot on....


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/columns/john-kass/ct-george-floyd-david-dorn-kass-20200604-nufke7avkvc5zhy4eenios4zji-story.html%3foutputType=amp


Dorn? How about THIS guy? Why was nobody marching


Posted: Jun 4, 2020 11:06 PM
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for this victim?


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/us/police-shooting-video-arizona.html


I shouldn't have to tell you.


Re: Dorn? How about THIS guy? Why was nobody marching


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 2:59 AM
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Tell us

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Re: Dorn? How about THIS guy? Why was nobody marching


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 2:59 AM
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Tell us

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Re: Why is nobody talking about David Dorn?


Posted: Jun 4, 2020 11:33 PM
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Unbelievable these idiots idolize thugs while ignoring the real heroes and honorable people like Mr. Dorn who gave their lives trying to do the right thing......we need to tell them all “they are full of crap and we are not going to put up with their BS anymore”.......It is time for us to stand up to them and give them a swift kick in the rear end......that is really all these idiots are capable of understandIng......Go Tigers!!!!!


The NC State coach?***

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Posted: Jun 4, 2020 11:46 PM
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Posted: Jun 4, 2020 11:52 PM
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David Dorn, 77 year old retired black STL police captain that was murdered in one of the riots trying to protect a black owned business.


Re: Why is nobody talking about David Dorn?

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Posted: Jun 4, 2020 11:55 PM
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How is this a football post?

Speaking of, I hope no Ohio State fans are pointing recruits to this board.

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Lots of people talk about David Dorn.


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 12:09 AM
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It made the national & international news. CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS all covered the story. The Guardian and The Mirror covered it. That story has been everywhere.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 1:07 AM
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I agree with you 99.9%. he shouldn't be found guilty for murder, it should be man slaughter . He killed the man and it should not have happened. But I don't believe his intent was to kill him, not planned or at the scene. That is what murder is.


Re: Why is nobody talking about David Dorn?


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 1:25 AM
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Why are you posting this on a sports board?

It’s great if you sincerely care about David Dorn. You should start a memorial focusing on his life and service. If you’re only giving lip service, then you need to look in a hypocritical mirror.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 2:54 AM
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Enough of that

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Re: Why is nobody talking about David Dorn?


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 7:03 AM
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There is a video with sound showing George Floyd begging for his life and actually dying. I don't understand why you wouldn't think that has a larger impact than other deaths not captured in such a graphic manner and not consisting of 8 or 9 minutes of suffering for all to see. It doesn't mean that the other death doesn't matter just as much. All deaths matter. Be reminded of Eric Garner who died in almost the same manner and was captured on video as well.

Remember George Floyd's death as the time when most of America decided that this must be stopped. NOW.

Let's not let how we feel about the media dominate the conversation. We all saw what happened. No one needs them to tell us anything.

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Re: Why is nobody talking about David Dorn?


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:00 AM
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There is video with sound of Daniel Shaver begging police not to shoot him as he desperately tried to comply with their confusing orders and the cops telling him that they would shoot him. Did you ever see anything about it? Probably not, there were no protests in the street for it or anything because it didn't fit the narrative.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 9:05 AM
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No, I haven't seen it.

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Re: Why is nobody talking about David Dorn?


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 9:21 AM
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Exactly, because it didn't fit the particular outrage narrative that the press wants to stoke. It was reported and discussed in libertarian outlets like Reason. Here's the coverage from the conservative magazine, National Review

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/police-murder-daniel-shaver/


In Minneapolis, the same force that killed Mr Floyd also killed a woman who had called 911 because she thought someone was being raped. Dropped out the limelight almost immediately, because it was a white woman killed by a black police officer. She was unarmed, barefoot, and in her pajamas when the cop shot her without warning as she approached their car, presumably to tell them why she had called 911.

This was widely covered in libertarian circles, but barely blipped on national press.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond


On July 15, 2017, Justine Damond, née Ruszczyk,[2][3] a 40-year-old Australian-American woman, was fatally shot by a 33-year-old Mohamed Noor, a Somali-American Minneapolis Police Department officer, after she had called 9-1-1 to report the possible assault of a woman in an alley behind her house.

In two years as a police officer, Noor had three formal complaints against him, two of which, as of September 2017, were pending resolution. In a separate case from May 2017, he was being sued for allegedly assaulting a woman while on duty.

Officers Noor and Harrity, after driving through an alley with the lights on their police Ford Explorer off, heard no signs of criminal activity.[27] As the two partners prepared to leave, Noor "entered 'Code Four' into the cruiser's computer, meaning the scene was safe."[27] Harrity would indicate "that he was startled by a loud sound near the squad," and immediately, then, Damond approached the police car's driver-side window.[29] Harrity drew his weapon, but, pointed it downward, did not fire.[30] Noor, however, fired once through the open window, fatally striking Damond in the chest.[27][29] Damond was unarmed and barefoot.[27] The officers attempted CPR to no avail; Damond died 20 minutes later.[31]

Harrity later told a supervisor, "We both got spooked."[27] At Noor's trial, Harrity testified of hearing "something hit the car and I also hear some sort of murmur," and that he feared an "ambush," but deemed it "premature" to use deadly force.[30] Noor testified that he did not see Damond's hand or any object in the hand, but nonetheless believed that his partner "feared for his life" and "there was a threat."[32] At Noor's trial, prosecutors presented evidence that Damond's fingerprints were not on the police car, suggesting she never made contact with it, and prosecutors called two expert witnesses on the police use of force, who testified that Noor's decision to shoot was unreasonable.[33]

Both officers had their body cameras switched off.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 11:42 AM
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This is extremely disturbing! Makes me wonder how many cases like this are really out there. Something has to be done now.

What happened to the cops?

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